quote Originally posted by Madess: stick or auto, just curious?

5 speed

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..from beautiful Caledonia, WI
87 GT 5 speed med red
87 GT 5 speed V8 SBC TPI

mine's so fast I get home before I leave for work!!! :lol:

no one seems to want to race anymore. only one who tried was a tt mr2 all goobered up with scoops, rims and whatnot, from a rolling start at 60, I did have to drop to 4th, at 110 he was a little spec of light in my mirror. 4th was still pulling nicely, but I had to exit, so that's about as fast as I got.

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Honestly, both of those cars are slow as F**K. I used to own a 1988 Mazda RX-7 Turbo-II with a 5-Speed manual. It was loaded, black in and out. I had it for about a week while I had my 87 Fiero SE / V6 Automatic. Honestly, the few times I managed to race them (with a friend driving one or the other), the Fiero would pull away from the Turbo-II RX-7 when starting from a dead stop. The RX-7 would eventually gain after the Fiero hit about 4,500 rpms in 2nd gear. I used to think my Fiero was the quickest thing in the world. And nearly every person who's ever owned an RX-7 thinks their RX-7 is the quickest thing in the world. Let me tell you... A 2nd gen RX-7 is slow as crap. Off the dealer floor, they ran at best, a high 15 in the quarter mile STOCK. The 3rd generation RX-7 Turbo barely broke into the 14s, stock. I've got a 2006 Pontiac Solstice that I bought about 11 months ago. It runs high 15s stock from the dealer. I've put some money into it, a Cold Air Intake, and a ceramic coated exhaust header, I run synthetic, and it's broken in. I figure I'm probably running low 15s. I had a guy at a gas station come up to me and ask me about my car. He asked me how quick it was... I told him honestly that with what I've done, it probably runs low 15s. He told me.. "Is that all?" He then proceeded to tell me that he had a "bone stock" Nissan Sentra from the late 80s that ran a flat 13 in the quarter. People have such disproportionate ideas what their cars run. I never really realized just how slow most peoples cars are, and how totally far off their "estimates" are.

i agree 100 percent.
i had a 95 firebird formula with some work done. and a pretty close to stock srt-4 and they where what i considerd the slowest of starting to get fast. anything slower then a srt-4 or a trans am/ camaro, just isnt fast. as the camaro/firebird and srt-4's are just starting to try and break into what i would call fast.

id say my R1 is fast tho

can't wait to see calikids storys in here.

Fast enough to get a ticket in all 50 states and most parts of the world. I have no plans to try though.

I completely killed an 8 year old on a Huffy, then stalled it showing off to the freshmen.

faster than a herd of turtles stampeding through peanut butter.

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Let me tell you... [...] People have such disproportionate ideas what their cars run. I never really realized just how slow most peoples cars are, and how totally far off their "estimates" are.

Among my cars, I own both, so I'm aware, though it seems you don't know how to manage turbo lag. As concerned as you are about 14 and 15-second times, that's not half bad conciderring most supercars run in the 12s. If you actually read my post, you'll take note that my comment was on the irony that someone regarding themself as a dedicated street racer would blow their rotary engine in a simple drag race. It had nothing to do with which car responded better to the skinny pedal. The short blip about the FD was a simple statement that it would beat a Fiero with little effort; there was no comparison to a Murcielago. Finally, if you think adding a cone intake and running synthetic in a Solstice will take around half of a second off your quarter-mile time, you need to take your own advice and stop talking.

Edit: And to help remind you of proper figures:

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: A 2nd gen RX-7 is slow as crap. Off the dealer floor, they ran at best, a high 15 in the quarter mile STOCK. The 3rd generation RX-7 Turbo barely broke into the 14s, stock.

FC3S w/13BT -- 0-60 in 6.5 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.4 seconds @ 93 mph
FD3S -- 0-60 in 5.1 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.0 seconds @ 100 mph.

Results vary by driver skill, of course. All FDs had twin hitachis, so the "Turbo" moniker isn't needed.

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I have a friend who ran 17's in his fiero. He has some exhaust work done, and a cold air intake on a BRAND new stock engine. My car is a little slower than his. Im in the middle of doing a non-sc swap with a 1998 bonneville engine with an auto transmission and hope to see WAY better numbers. But i have a story! It was raining out and there was a punk with a new colbalt his daddy bought him, sounded supercharged when he was revving next to me. well He kept reving at me at a stop light. I usually choose my battles better but i reved back at him and his friends. he had green lights under his car...So i turned my way cooler red ones on. He had some shitty little sub... I turned up all 3 of my 1000 RMS 10 inch infinity kappa's playing micheal jackson's "thriller" to the point where i couldnt see much. The light turned green and i took off. I look back and hees sitting there doing a burnout while my 2.8 is about to kill his cobalt with an 18 second quarter mile lolol
Thats the only cool thing thats ever happened. Just about every other time if its not a civic, cavalier, probe or geo metro i get whooped.

quote Originally posted by Erik: Mine is so fast that the big bang hasn't happened yet

hehehehhe....

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Owner of the first paddle-shifted, Northstar powered fiero.

I just discovered that Chris is my nieghbor!!!! (sorta) I'm accross the river and down the road another 8miles. AND we're doing the same engine-swap as we SPEAK!! give me call man! (309) 796-4650

Greg K. <--is also the guy that goes to Cordova

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HI
My friend have 5.0 tpi Trans AM from 1988 on th 400 ( i don't remeber exacly wich year )
He is a paeyne in my ass becouse hi want to race me and kick my ass
So my question Is do I have any chance with him
My car is 1988 Fiero Gt with rebuilded engine ported intake and heads beter exhaust 2 1/2" crane power max cam
I"m abaut to rebuild my getrag and put to it Phantom grip
What do You thing do I have any chance ????

quote Originally posted by Adrian: HI My friend have 5.0 tpi Trans AM from 1988 on th 400 ( i don't remeber exacly wich year ) He is a paeyne in my ass becouse hi want to race me and kick my ass So my question Is do I have any chance with him My car is 1988 Fiero Gt with rebuilded engine ported intake and heads beter exhaust 2 1/2" crane power max cam I"m abaut to rebuild my getrag and put to it Phantom grip What do You thing do I have any chance ????

IMO, maybe. Put a bottle on it and smoke em .

My car is soo fast that it looks like it's going slow

quote Among my cars, I own both, so I'm aware, though it seems you don't know how to manage turbo lag. As concerned as you are about 14 and 15-second times, that's not half bad conciderring most supercars run in the 12s. If you actually read my post, you'll take note that my comment was on the irony that someone regarding themself as a dedicated street racer would blow their rotary engine in a simple drag race. It had nothing to do with which car responded better to the skinny pedal. The short blip about the FD was a simple statement that it would beat a Fiero with little effort; there was no comparison to a Murcielago. Finally, if you think adding a cone intake and running synthetic in a Solstice will take around half of a second off your quarter-mile time, you need to take your own advice and stop talking.

Actually, I have a ceramic exhaust header, an ECM reflash (which reprogramms the VVT controller), as well as a Cold Air Intake. And, like I said, I'm running low 15s although most people tell me I'm probably running better times. I won't believe it until I take it to Moroso.

Anyway, I'm sorry to say that you're delusional as to what the RX-7s run. The numbers I stated are more "REAL-WORLD". You're pulling numbers from who knows where, from a site that probably also pulled them from who knows where. You need to look at hard numbers like from a Road & Track magazine of that era. Sure, you can modify them to make more power, but stock, those cars simply have no torque, and they aren't anywhere near as fast as their owners think they are. While you THINK you're running low 14s, you're really running mid 15s at best. It's not like I'm comparing the Fiero to the RX-7 because they're both equally slow vehicles.

I'm not going to be arrogant about it... at the time, they were fairly quick cars. But either one would get it's ass handed to it by any mid to upper level run of the mill GM sedan or sport coupe.

I just think people need to be more realistic. I'll never forget how funny it was when I saw this guy in a Nissan 300ZX (older body style). His front and rear shocks were totally shot, so every time he would shift, the car's body would hunch back and the rear bumper would scrape the ground. He was convinced that his car was so insanely fast that the road just couldn't handle the power of his car. When really, he was probably running low 16s.

quote Originally posted by Delphince: FC3S w/13BT -- 0-60 in 6.5 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.4 seconds @ 93 mph FD3S -- 0-60 in 5.1 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.0 seconds @ 100 mph. Results vary by driver skill, of course. All FDs had twin hitachis, so the "Turbo" moniker isn't needed.

Like I said, you can pull numbers from random web sites that have either made up their own numbers, or pulled them from other random web sites. That still doesn't change the fact that these cars weren't anywhere near as fast as they think it is. The sooner people stop being delusional, the sooner they will start making better choices... (like spending money on real performance parts instead of neon shift knobs and fart-can mufflers).


Look, don't be upset. No one here is saying the RX-7 isn't a cool car. Like I said before, I had an 88 RX-7 Turbo-II 5-Speed. I loved that car, but it was too expensive for me and I needed the money so I bought the Fiero and sold the RX-7 so I could afford to move down to Florida and have some rent money. It's a great car, it handles well, and it's an excellent Japanese version of the Porsche 944 Turbo. I just think people need to be more realistic, and the RX-7 is just one of many examples of cars who's numbers get consistantly over-inflated over time.

Just like the Dodge Neon SRT-4 (all of those owners think they can take on Z06 Corvettes), or even better, the Supra Turbo owners. You'll never find a magazine showing a 100% stock Supra Turbo breaking into the 13s. It just didn't happen, they were mid 14 second cars AT BEST!


And just to clarify, it's not like I even have a car right now that breaks into the 14s myself. I have an 81 TransAm, and I'm in the process of building up with an Oldsmobile 455 (1969 Olds 455 H/O block). My goal is low 13s, which is easily do-able with a fairly stock engine rebuild. With everything else going on, I'm only about 1/3rd of the way done. I've dropped off the cyl heads at the machine shop, and I've done only about 80% of the welding to the body. I still need to get my TH-400 rebuilt, and a new rear-end to handle the 550+ foot pounds of torque... (probably a 12-bolt)

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Todd,
2006 Pontiac Solstice
2004 Volkswagen Beetle Convertible (Wife's Car)
2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 (3.2) 5-Speed
1984 Pontiac Fiero 2m4 SE
1984 Porsche 944 5-Speed
1981 Pontiac TransAm (Olds 455BB)
1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Well.... you don't really have a chance. The 88 GT is one of the heavier Fieros and the 5.0 TPI is one of the quicker 3rd gens, and doesn't really weight THAT much more than your Fiero. However, I seriously doubt he has a TH-400 in his car. The TH-400 is a much older transmission that has a vacuum or button controlled kickdown. On top of that, the TH-400 has a really mild 1st gear that no one likes. The ONLY reason why anyone would use a TH-400 is simply if they have an engine that's so powerful, that they need an extreme heavy duty transmission (on the cheap) to handle the power. More than likely, he has a 700R4, that was the standard automatic transmission for the later 3rd gens. If he really did swap a TH-400 in his car, then he's retarded.

Yes he has th 700 my mistake sorry any way hi kick my ass and that will hurt It's time to make money for 3.8SC swap

I've had my 86 gt 5spd up to 140mph on a back road. (i love the turns in NY witn my fiero ) as for off the line time... yeah right... the last time i tried that i destroyed a transmission mount bracket and a old a$$ drive shaft. i did beat a turbo'd crx without any problems after i got the car fixed.Once i tried to take a vette on a road with alot of sharp turns and long straights... i was able to catch up on the corners but was left behind on the straights. just wondering, and way off topic but why is it that the corvettes can go fast in the straight but fold on the corners? you would think gm would have learned from the fiero design for conering.

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Just like the Dodge Neon SRT-4 (all of those owners think they can take on Z06 Corvettes), or even better, the Supra Turbo owners. You'll never find a magazine showing a 100% stock Supra Turbo breaking into the 13s. It just didn't happen, they were mid 14 second cars AT BEST! And just to clarify, it's not like I even have a car right now that breaks into the 14s myself. I have an 81 TransAm, and I'm in the process of building up with an Oldsmobile 455 (1969 Olds 455 H/O block). My goal is low 13s, which is easily do-able with a fairly stock engine rebuild. With everything else going on, I'm only about 1/3rd of the way done. I've dropped off the cyl heads at the machine shop, and I've done only about 80% of the welding to the body. I still need to get my TH-400 rebuilt, and a new rear-end to handle the 550+ foot pounds of torque... (probably a 12-bolt)

Road&Track? Their guys can't drive worth a crap! They consistently manage to run sub-par times. Granted not everyone has 'the driver mod', but you'd think that they could at least get some peeps who can do a decent job driving.

You're right about the 100% stock supra being a 14 second car, but it doesn't take much to change that. Even though it doesn't....you hardly ever see Supra owners at the track. One of the local websites I'm on has a couple supra owners. One will never run his car at the track. He says he makes 443 rwhp(SUREEEEE) and yet he can beat 500rwhp cars with ease(something doesn't add up)?

The other Supra owner recently went to the track for his first time and he's hooked. He's making around 800rwhp and currently running mid 7's in the 1/8th, the car has the trap speed of a low 6 second car though. He knows that, and he's working on it. Major props to him for not being the typical Supra owner.

How the hell are you going to run low 13's on a fairly stock engine rebuild, yet its going to have 550+ ft-lbs? That doesn't quite add up either.

quote Originally posted by 5.0Vert: Road&Track? Their guys can't drive worth a crap! They consistently manage to run sub-par times. Granted not everyone has 'the driver mod', but you'd think that they could at least get some peeps who can do a decent job driving.

Honestly, they really do much more "REAL WORLD" testing. Ever seen a 14 second car run 16s simply because the temperature outside is hot? The numbers that Road & Track have are consistent, and are completed generally in the same tracks at similar ambient temperatures.

quote You're right about the 100% stock supra being a 14 second car, but it doesn't take much to change that.

Yes, but just because it's easy to change, doesn't mean that it comes from the factory like that, which so many people seem to kind of fudge when they start throwing out numbers.

quote How the hell are you going to run low 13's on a fairly stock engine rebuild, yet its going to have 550+ ft-lbs? That doesn't quite add up either.

Hahahha.... Dude, I said "455" that's a 7.5 liter engine. SEVEN POINT FIVE LITERS.... that's only 1/2 a liter less than the displacement of a Dodge Viper.

I just helped my friend pull a 500 cubic inch Cadillac motor (~8.2 liters) from a 1971 Cadillac Eldorado. You should see the torque numbers on that!!!


Anyway the stock numbers for this muscle car 455 ARE 500+ foot pounds of torque (stock).

I'm having a few other things done to it:

1 - stainless steel 2.07" intake / 1.71" exhaust valves (yes!! 2.07 inch intake valves!!!)
2 - Joe Mondello Performance cam (operating rpm range 1,500 to 6,800 rpms)
3 - .030 overbore TRW forged pistons (FYI, the rods and crank area already forged from the factory)
4 - Crane Roller Rockers (just a simple 1.52:1 ratio)
5 - Cloyes true-roller cam/crank gears / timing chain.
6 - MSD multiple spark discharge billet distributor.
7 - MSD ignition coil
8 - 71' Oldsmobile 455 HO Toronado intake (needed to fit under the T/A hood)

That's basically it. And it's fed by a Rochester 850cfm 4-bbl carburetor.

The stock hp numbers are 380hp / 515ft-lbs of torque.

With what I'm doing, it'll be more like 420hp / 550ft-lbs of torque. The cam that I've picked will give me more "upper" low-end power, as well as lots more mid-range power. The problem is that... this motor was meant for an A-body... you know, an Olds Cutlass, Pontiac GTO, that body style. In an 81 TransAm (which weighs several hundred pounds less), I won't get ANY traction at all with all that power down low... so I've moved the power up in the rpm range so that I can at least hook up a bit better. I've also installed sub-frame connectors. Without them, the motor would probably twist my TransAm in half.

I've already got a pretty hefty Th-400. It came from a Buick Wildcat with the towing package, so it actually has a pretty decent 1st and 2nd gear. I've got to rebuild that, and then find myself a 12-bolt rear end. The 10-bolt 3.08:1 posi rear-end that I have in the back of my TransAm now simply just won't be able to handle the massive amount of torque that this motor puts out. This engine was originally behind a Th-400 and a 12-bolt rear-end in it's original application anyway.


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Todd,
2006 Pontiac Solstice
2004 Volkswagen Beetle Convertible (Wife's Car)
2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 (3.2) 5-Speed
1984 Pontiac Fiero 2m4 SE
1984 Porsche 944 5-Speed
1981 Pontiac TransAm (Olds 455BB)
1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

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quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Hahahha.... Dude, I said "455" that's a 7.5 liter engine. SEVEN POINT FIVE LITERS.... that's only 1/2 a liter less than the displacement of a Dodge Viper. I just helped my friend pull a 500 cubic inch Cadillac motor (~8.2 liters) from a 1971 Cadillac Eldorado. You should see the torque numbers on that!!! Anyway the stock numbers for this muscle car 455 ARE 500+ foot pounds of torque (stock). I'm having a few other things done to it: 1 - stainless steel 2.07" intake / 1.71" exhaust valves (yes!! 2.07 inch intake valves!!!) 2 - Joe Mondello Performance cam (operating rpm range 1,500 to 6,800 rpms) 3 - .030 overbore TRW forged pistons (FYI, the rods and crank area already forged from the factory) 4 - Crane Roller Rockers (just a simple 1.52:1 ratio) 5 - Cloyes true-roller cam/crank gears / timing chain. 6 - MSD multiple spark discharge billet distributor. 7 - MSD ignition coil 8 - 71' Oldsmobile 455 HO Toronado intake (needed to fit under the T/A hood) That's basically it. And it's fed by a Rochester 850cfm 4-bbl carburetor. The stock hp numbers are 380hp / 515ft-lbs of torque. With what I'm doing, it'll be more like 420hp / 550ft-lbs of torque. The cam that I've picked will give me more "upper" low-end power, as well as lots more mid-range power. The problem is that... this motor was meant for an A-body... you know, an Olds Cutlass, Pontiac GTO, that body style. In an 81 TransAm (which weighs several hundred pounds less), I won't get ANY traction at all with all that power down low... so I've moved the power up in the rpm range so that I can at least hook up a bit better. I've also installed sub-frame connectors. Without them, the motor would probably twist my TransAm in half. I've already got a pretty hefty Th-400. It came from a Buick Wildcat with the towing package, so it actually has a pretty decent 1st and 2nd gear. I've got to rebuild that, and then find myself a 12-bolt rear end. The 10-bolt 3.08:1 posi rear-end that I have in the back of my TransAm now simply just won't be able to handle the massive amount of torque that this motor puts out. This engine was originally behind a Th-400 and a 12-bolt rear-end in it's original application anyway.

They may do all the testing in the same area/conditions, but the drivers perform subpar.


Sorry, missed the 455 part....was running on only a couple hours sleep and I only picked up on the TA+fairly stock rebuild. Sounds like it should be quite fun.


I hope you better a 13, I sure hope so anyhow. I know some fox body guys with around 250 rwhp running mid 7's(1/8th mile). Suspension helps alot...I'm pretty sure they make the right parts for your car to hook up.

quote Originally posted by tjm4fun: mine's so fast I get home before I leave for work!!! :lol:

LMAO .....When I finished the conversion, I raced a Harley, because his pipes where blowing my ears off, I won, I just wanted to get away from the noise, did the same with a 75+ year old guy in a Vette, he was still spinning in the hole watching his gauges, we ran a good mile, my front end got very light, (scary light) the speedo was pegged along with everything else, the old bird followed me another 5-6 miles home (from a distance) then pulled in the driveway to see what the hell I had back there. This makes me think , I`ll need a chin spoiler, its on the things to do list, my wifes first and last time in the car--the screaming was louder than the Harley--I should have quit then....She now calls it ** that thing **....

I know it's hard to belive, but I got my little stock 84 up to about 105-110. She was winningout at like 4700 rpms. That is as fast as I want to go with that one, considering that it's the original enigne before the recall. Throwing a rod at that speed would be disasterous. (sp)

"In excess of 90", at least that's what it said on the ticket. The CHP said he was clocking me at 90 but, when he looked up from his speedometer, I was gone. When he caught me again I was going the speed limit. He said if he wrote me for more than 90 he'd have to take me to jail and, since I had my wife with me, he didn't want to do that.

quote Originally posted by triker: "In excess of 90", at least that's what it said on the ticket. The CHP said he was clocking me at 90 but, when he looked up from his speedometer, I was gone. When he caught me again I was going the speed limit. He said if he wrote me for more than 90 he'd have to take me to jail and, since I had my wife with me, he didn't want to do that.

Lol triker... i've been there... the stock v-6 has a nice top end for what it is but the low end sucks. At least you got a decent cop... some of them are shocked when they catch up and find out it was a fiero they were chasing... had that happen too.

quote Originally posted by 3800superfast: LMAO .....When I finished the conversion, I raced a Harley, because his pipes where blowing my ears off, I won, I just wanted to get away from the noise, did the same with a 75+ year old guy in a Vette, he was still spinning in the hole watching his gauges, we ran a good mile, my front end got very light, (scary light) the speedo was pegged along with everything else, the old bird followed me another 5-6 miles home (from a distance) then pulled in the driveway to see what the hell I had back there. This makes me think , I`ll need a chin spoiler, its on the things to do list, my wifes first and last time in the car--the screaming was louder than the Harley--I should have quit then....She now calls it ** that thing **....

well, you;ve seen the logs of my drive to work, I don't exactly observe the posted limits. well, maybe in the on/off ramps .......
I hate bikes like that. loud and slooooooow. makes my unused bumper sticker of: "loud pipes make me load my .357" seem so right

I haven't had a fiero over 120 yet. I've had my old 78 skyhawk to 145/150 before we sorta ran outta road , with little signs of slowing down. that was my wifes fault cause a porsche and a seriously outclassed t/a passed my at about 100 as I was doing 80, she said" you;re not letting them pass you?!?!" that car was almost scary fast at highway speeds, but the aero effects worked properly, at 95 or so you felt the car drop about 1" as it sucked down to the road, it got firmer instead of lighter, as it should be.

I have had mine up over 100 almost every day. The supercharger adds alot of nice upperend power on the freeway.

Raced a lt1 firebird today, I dont know if wasnt trying or it was just slow, I pulled about 7 cars on him up till 95 from a 50 roll.

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: I hear that you guys make rich Corinthian leather. Is that true???

There is no such thing as " Corinthian leather ' , Chryler just made it up cause it sounded cool...look it up, lol.

Theres 2 kinds of fast....one is quick from 0 to ? in say a 1/4 mile, other is wound up. Which are we talkin about here ? One dont necessarily mean the same as the other. My Ferraro (3.1 turbo, 4 spd ) was not all that quick for a short run, but look out on an open road. Id just take a guess than 1/4 mile was maybe 14-15 . Top end was 2-3 times national speed limit. Good enough for me.

How many of you guys are experiencing the float issue? I've taken my v6 SE up past 100 on several occasions and didn't experience it. Has an aero nose...

quote Originally posted by 5.0Vert: How many of you guys are experiencing the float issue? I've taken my v6 SE up past 100 on several occasions and didn't experience it. Has an aero nose...

Just about every time i have my car up to 110 or so the front seems to float a little, but with all the dips in the roads around me it doesn't make that much of a difference... Only when i go fast on main roads does it make me feel a little unsafe. soon enough that shouldn't be a problem though... i have a friend who is building a front end for me that he is designing for the "float" problem i'm having. anybody know of a good place to get a front that helps with the high speed float? That would save my friend alot of time.

I had a 69 427 corvette up to 110 , hit a little dip in the road, the front end came up on the shocks and stayed there. thought I was going to die that day. My duke will bury the speedo! JM

quote Originally posted by Chris Hodson: Just about every other time if its not a civic, cavalier, probe or geo metro i get whooped.

Ahh I'll race ya! my geo metro 4 door is pretty darn quick.. it happens to have a bit more HP under the hood than normal (Gotta love that bigger suzuki engines fit!) and being incredibly light, 125hp under the hood suprises the hell out of everyone around here :-) There is a chevy aveo around here as well that has a turbo on it that can take almost any camarobird easily let alone cobalts and solstices. adding a turbo to those little engines is quite amazing. But I prefer the higher HP engine swaps.

I just hate that the power band is in the 3000-5000 rpm area so I have to shift like a motorcycle.

'85 se with a TBI 4.5, 4t60 and a 2,000+ rpm stall converter.
15.1@92 in the quarter with a terribly lean air/fuel ratio.

Just like 3800SuperFast, I had a screaming sound coming from my 383 powered 88 Formula/GT last year as I hit well over 130 on a long straight stretch heading into the mountains. The sound kept getting louder and louder until I finally asked my wife to quit screaming. The trip was relatively quiet after that, I never exceeded 70 mph.....

quote Originally posted by rogergarrison: There is no such thing as " Corinthian leather ' , Chryler just made it up cause it sounded cool...look it up, lol.

Hah, yeah, I know... that was the joke.

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Todd,
2006 Pontiac Solstice
2004 Volkswagen Beetle Convertible (Wife's Car)
2002 Ford Crown Victoria LX
1987 Pontiac Fiero SE / V6 (3.2) 5-Speed
1984 Pontiac Fiero 2m4 SE
1984 Porsche 944 5-Speed
1981 Pontiac TransAm (Olds 455BB)
1973 Volkswagen Type-2 Transporter

Assuming that I do get around to throwing in a "slightly" modified N*, I calculated a theoretical peak of 220 with an 84SE gearset and 3.73 diff.

By "slightly" I mean forged internals rated for 9kRPM and a VVT controller.

I got a good kick out of reading this thread! We all get in a little trouble here and there with our cars don't we, LOL! The only ticket I ever got in my Fiero was a "following to close" ticket! I was tailgating someone in the "fast lane" that was doing the speed limit! That was about 3 years ago! Now for my other tickets, well, how much time do you have, LOL! I have had my share of traffic tickets! That's why I invested in a Valentine 1 radar detector. That thing has saved my butt on more then one occasion!

BTW, my Fiero is sloooowwwwww! My girlfriends current daily driver is about equal to my Fiero. She drives an Automatic '97 Eclipse Spyder with the 2.4L 4 cyl.! Now, I have worked out a lot of bugs in my Fiero, and it does feel a little faster then the time I raced my G/F, but still! I'm sure like i'm like a lot of you here on this board, I want to one day do an engine swap! But for now, the little V6 isn't half bad, and the car is fun to drive!

Chassis, suspension, brakes, interior, motor/tranny swap, then body work!

There you go, a never ending project for ya!

Thanks guys for the good read!

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1986 Fiero GT 2.8 V6 4-sp (all stock)
2002 Firebird Formula 6sp (not stock)
1999 30th Ann. Trans AM (all stock)
3 other cars not worth listing.

5500 rpm in 5th gear...
rear tires are 225/50 16

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GT just waiting for the conversion

84 Fiero Turbo Vortec 4300 Phantom GT
L35 block, Syclone Intake and ECM
T31 turbine with T04B S3 compressor
super T61 waiting for next winter
www.cardomain.com/id/vortecfiero
Murphy's Constant Matter will be damaged in direct proportion to its value
Murphy's Law of Thermodynamics Things get worse under pressure.
Arthur C. Clarke "Any significantly advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"

140 MPH running around Charlotte Motor Speedway (now Lowe's Motor Speedway) during a kit-car weekend back in October of '94. Stock V6 ... 100K miles on the car at that time ... GT40 rebody ... 275-60R-15 tires on the rear.