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3.4L pushrod Swap (lots of pics) by sardonyx247
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This stuff is coming out good since this is the first time I have ever dug in to a Fiero V6, painted engine parts, did an engine swap(though I did a 4 to 5 speed swap in my old 84 SE), polished aluminum, or powder coated.

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Looking good. You are making nice progess. Nice documentation too. Thanks,
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Time for a color change

The old color(which I just didn't like)

The new color

The 3.4L(left), The 2.8L(right)

The last shot of the old color. Notice the gloss is gone, I scuffed it up to take the new paint. All taped off

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Then the base coats


Now the new color

I like this color soooo much better.

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Anyone have any questions or comments? Like it, dislike it, anything?
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I like the new color. It would look nice with some chrome valve covers. Keep the shots coming. Don't forget the pics of the starter relocation.
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Engine swap threads always capture my attention. I am for one am glad that you picked a darker blue. The pale/skyblue color just did not do it for me. The darker blue looks GREAT! Keep up the good work and documentation, and hopefully we will see the end results real soon.

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i have a question how many horses does the 3.4 have?
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Originally posted by Wesley:

i have a question how many horses does the 3.4 have?


Stock, 160 horsies and something close to 200 lb-ft of torque. I can never remember the exact number. You can supe up the 3.4 with cams and such to make180-190hp, or you can go to a carburated set up like a couple members have and top out around 220hp.

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Very nice build up and documentation It remembers me when I did mine. Nice blue color too! But I doubt the one in the exhaust pipes will stay anywhere like that for too long. This gives me some strenght to go back and fixup mine

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I had to reinstall my PC, so when I get PIP and some other programs up I will put up more pics.
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The last of the brakets that I Forgot about from the 2.8


Cleaned.....


And painted


Repainted in the new color

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The stripping of my valve covers and intake.

I scuffed up the old powdercoat to help the stripper penitrate it.

You might be able to see the bubbleing of the old powdercoat


Here is all the stuff I used to strip off the old powdercoat.

Use the green scruby on the valve covers and the wire brush on the intake.
Make sure to WEAR GOGGLES and GLOVES when useing paint stripper. It BURNS when it gets on your skin, even the smallest paint flake. I know a sand blaster works the best, But I don't have one, so this is a cheap DYI guide
It take a couple of coats and don't let it dry or it just turns back to hard-to-remove coating.

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All stripped off.

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Actually looks better plain. nice.

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Polished ready for powdercoat

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Very nice thread!

Hey anyone, what type of HP and TQ does one get from the 3.4 and performance numbers vs the 2.8? 0-60 and 1/4 miles times? MPG? Is it easier to modify the engine vs the 2.8? How much does these figures change with an automatic?

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I LOVE pic threads....anyway that paint looks real Badass, can I have some info on what kinda paint etc? also will it stay looking like that after it gets all warmed up???
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^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^I won't know how the paint holds up untill I fire it up. (fingers are crossed)^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

This is the FIRST time we tried powdercoating, on a test piece.
This test the pressure was too high, thats why the powder is so thin.

Here is the light we used.

It was a project to say the least. The light we used just didn't work as well as we though, the parts just did not got to curing temp. with more practice it should work. But what I had to do for my parts is: coat it, then melt the powder, then drive to where I had a deticated oven, and cured it there. it took a few trips.

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This is THE VERY FIRST THING I have ever sprayed/coated.
Fresh out of the oven.
The colors I used came out with a nice marble effect on the valve covers.

and the sand cast was left to give it a kind of sparkle in the sun


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With the tape removed. There is still some adhesive on the polished parts in these pics. Thats been all cleaned up now.

This one I was still pulling the tape off and just had to get a pic, it looked so good.

So what do you guy/gals think of my first crack at powder coating?

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I can hardly wait to see it all back together. It looks great!
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I SAID "So what do you guy/gals think of my first crack at powder coating?"
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Damn pretty. Wish I could powder coat, I did a rattle can job and it came out pretty good considering.
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Originally posted by sardonyx247:

I SAID "So what do you guy/gals think of my first crack at powder coating?"

lol! you did good. *pat on the head*

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how bout an update?

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Jeez! That's what I get for being out of town for a few days.
I don't believe I missed this thread.

Nice work, man! The powdercoat looks great, too.

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Here's some pics on replacing the rear main seal. The more over 50,000 miles the more you should want to replace it. You should anyway if you have the engine out since it is cheap and easy to do now than a PITA later.

The old 'Rear Main Seal'

The new one

To get the old one out push a screwdriver into the rubber seal and under the metal lip. Then carefully pry it out, my came right out with any problems, easily.

The Rear Main Seal removed

and the old one, out

The new one in. It came with a shoe horn type of install tool with it

I used a piece of wood to tap the new one down

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Glad to see you have done this! Good lookin out.

Keep us posted. This thread hasnt died. We Are just sitting back waiting for more updates.

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Pics of things painted along the way.

Middle intake

Exhaust before.......


And after


Transmission before.......


And after

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Transmission brackets
The flash made them come out gray is these photos, but the paint is black.

Back together

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Coolent pipe

Even the bolt heads


Here are the heat sheilds that I have. I could not find any high enough temp paint the I liked so I left them alone.
Am I missing any? Not counting the ones attached to the car.

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Here are the pics from the Starter Relocation Swap.
The starter has to be moved to the other side of the block on the 3.4L. So holes have to be drilled and taped.

I held up the starter, with the teeth engaged, to see how it all fits

You have to make sure that where you have it and it is DISengaged that the flywheel doesn't hit this rubber bushing in the starter....Like so

Then I used a punch to mark the center of the first hole.

Got everthing level and drilled a pilot hole. (You don't have to use a pilot hole but I just chose to)

Then when it all looked OK, I used a 21/64 drill bit for the hole.

I taped out the hole for the starter bolt. The stock size of tap is 10x1.5. I chose to tap it 3/8 and I got Grade 8 hardend bolts, since I hate it when a starter bolt breaks. I used a extension with a piece of metal wedged in it so I could get a longer reach on it.

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With the first bolt in place, line up the starter again. And you want to be close to the flywheel, as you can use shims if you are too close, but if you are too far there is nothing you can do.
Then tighten the first bolt and have someone hold it in place and drill the second hole.

Tapping the second hole is easier from the other side.

Both hole drilled and tapped

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Excellent write-up and progress pics. I know its hard to remember to take pix while in the middle of a job. Nice to see pictures of the starter relocation, as I'd never been able to find pix before. +

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Looking good?

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sweet, looks like you've put alot of work into that Great pix too! +
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Great write up on the starter relocation. I can hardly wait to see it all back together.

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Thanks for the starter pics. I always wondered what this looked like. Keep going. Great job.

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For people who are interested, Rodney sells a drill jig for drilling the starter holes on the 3.4. It takes the guesswork out of locating the holes.
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