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Any socialism fans in the house? by 2.5
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Why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTRs5FnoaKA

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Socialism only works until Capitalist money runs out.
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Socialism probably only works under ethnic nationalism. China.
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most nut-con's fear socialism

but have no idea what it really means

one example out there nut -con's mostly love the local cops
even get upset when they are called PIGS
but fail to understand the cops are one bit of socialism in action
military is yet an other nut-con beloved bit of socialism in action
local fire dept is also socialism in action

we can't have a modern society with out some socialism in it !
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Education too. Social Security is another. Trash and fire coverage included in property taxes or not can be examples.

But nut-con is just some meaningless perjoritive phrase with one person defining it, which people immediately align against the person stating it if they aren't Dem, a whacko progressive, mentally ill anti-social, anarchist, etc..

Government employees typically want more for themselves at.the expense of other people which is a.conflict of interest. Maybe gov employees shouldn't be allowed to vote in my world? Yes. That's how it should be.

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Oh, my! This could be fun. I'll even buy the beer.

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Oh yes, I am a big fan of socialism where we form a government to protect borders and establish courts to settle disputes. That is enough socialism for me.
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Originally posted by sourmash:

Education too. Social Security is another. Trash and fire coverage included in property taxes or not can be examples.

But nut-con is just some meaningless perjoritive phrase with one person defining it, which people immediately align against the person stating it if they aren't Dem, a whacko progressive, mentally ill anti-social, anarchist, etc..

Government employees typically want more for themselves at.the expense of other people which is a.conflict of interest. Maybe gov employees shouldn't be allowed to vote in my world? Yes. That's how it should be.



would you prefer the Reich or extreme rightwing to nut-con

what ever your side does like to limit who votes to VERY disturbing degree
and is proud of a long tradition of doing so
land owners to pole taxes and lit tests of course we do not want felons to vote or the homeless ect
not to mention long pre registration waits to vote ID and poll rules
then hostile ''polewatchers'' from the Gop to challenge those who ''they'' do not like the look of
is there any or ever a Gop program to allow more people to vote ? if so I missed it
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Originally posted by FriendGregory:

Oh yes, I am a big fan of socialism where we form a government to protect borders and establish courts to settle disputes. That is enough socialism for me.


where I am against socialism
is when it trys to own things it should not own like factorys
not so much on schools or fire depts

not so much when it trys to limit harm like pollution rules

Haiti or much of africa is the victom of pure unlimited capitalism and greed
so extreme are bad both ways and balance is needed
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Africans had no use for the resources in Africa. With the pulling back of Europeans they again are not using the resources. Asia and the West do have a use for the resources. Haiti had a slave/black uprising and killed all the Whites. It has been left to it's own devices.

 
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would you prefer the Reich or extreme rightwing to nut-con


I don't know. It (the 3rd Reich) wasnt allowed to run it's course, but probably not. Totalitarian is AGAINST my views, but is what the USA is becoming.

The US's original Republic was similar to every man being a king. It was ethno-centric and did allow a percentage of diversity. Women couldn't vote.

 
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what ever your side does like to limit who votes to VERY disturbing degree
and is proud of a long tradition of doing so
land owners to pole taxes and lit tests of course we do not want felons to vote or the homeless ect
not to mention long pre registration waits to vote ID and poll rules
then hostile ''polewatchers'' from the Gop to challenge those who ''they'' do not like the look of
is there any or ever a Gop program to allow more people to vote ? if so I missed it


You don't know what my side is.
Where is a successful example of what you see as optimal? Successful would mean 100 plus years without internally destroying itself.

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Originally posted by sourmash:

Africans had no use for the resources in Africa. With the pulling back of Europeans they again are not using the resources. Asia and the West do have a use for the resources. Haiti had a slave/black uprising and killed all the Whites. It has been left to it's own devices.


You don't know what my side is.
Where is a successful example of what you see as optimal? Successful would mean 100 plus years without internally destroying itself.



I do know your side far too well

it is the darkside
the regressive side
yes many here support that side

I do not

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but fail to understand the cops are one bit of socialism in action
military is yet an other nut-con beloved bit of socialism in action
local fire dept is also socialism in action

we can't have a modern society with out some socialism in it !


Cop out, and you know it
Did you watch the videos?

Economic system

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Oh yes, I am a big fan of socialism where we form a government to protect borders and establish courts to settle disputes. That is enough socialism for me.



I'm all for whittling it down, weaning back too.
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You don't have an example of a successful socialist nation to discuss? This is your chance to convert someone, or plant the thought that does.
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People have no idea what they are talking about, is part of the big problem.

Couldn't have anything to do with schooling and the media could it? Lack of parenting?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ5QWclTfac

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prager U is NOT what they claim to be

it is even more of a FAKE then trump U was
no campus no classes no students

and your whiny voiced guy was spinning hard

one of the major reasons the colony's did well
was the indians who mostly DIED FROM OUR DISEASES
had set up the lands for thousands of years
my forefathers landed not in a wilderness but in a orchard

btw I did say my forefathers my people landed in 1621

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None of us knows if we're blood related to the people traced through the paperwork.

The indians were not as advanced as European and Asian civilizations. They had no wheel and not even a horse.
They lived in an isolation far removed from the regions they migrated from

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I do know your side far too well

it is the darkside
the regressive side
yes many here support that side

I do not


But...but...but...

We have cookies. And ice-cream. And warm puppies. And friends who do stupid **** like call at 3pm this afternoon to come bail them out. And generally have fun without caring who gets offended. And vanilla cigarallos. And....
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

Socialism only works until Capitalist money runs out.

Quoted as truth. As long as socialist can use Other People's Money, they are happy as pigs in mud.

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Quoted as truth. As long as socialist can use Other People's Money, they are happy as pigs in mud.

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So were we, man....not to be an ******* , but when did you ever open the wallet to fuel up a aircraft, or buy some rockets that got fired, or a case of MRE's or a big long list of other things. Hell, not even the diesel in the truck.

There would be a WHOLE lot less "adventure" in this world if somebody else wasn't paying the bills for it.
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prager U is NOT what they claim to be



Feel free to refute what their messages say.

Claiming them "not good" in some way is simply changing the subject.

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What would Giovanni Gentile say?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6bSsaVL6gA

How does this fit in, seems like it is not changing the subject?
Roads leading to the same communist place? The place where citizens all starve?
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more prager propaganda

please go find a local skin-head neo-nazi and
TELL THEM THEY ARE A LIBERAL

then let us know what hospital to send the flowers

yes the rightwing is very good at propaganda
that does not make it true or correct

your prager cartoons are simply lying to members here
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None of us knows if we're blood related to the people traced through the paperwork.

The indians were not as advanced as European and Asian civilizations. They had no wheel and not even a horse.
They lived in an isolation far removed from the regions they migrated from



not true in all cases
my family name is a common english word
but not a common name so eazy to trace
and after leaving plymouth they went to found rhode island
and stayed there in one town almost 300 years

btw the mormon church has very good records
that are free to use

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Feel free to refute what their messages say.

Claiming them "not good" in some way is simply changing the subject.



there are actual university's with real professors that teach real subjects

and there are FAKES like prager U that produces propaganda SPIN CARTOONS

IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE

everyone has there own opinions
every one does NOT get there own FACTS

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there are actual university's with real professors that teach real subjects

and there are FAKES like prager U that produces propaganda SPIN CARTOONS

IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE

everyone has there own opinions
every one does NOT get there own FACTS



Real university's teach what they get paid to teach. Real university, don't make me puke
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there are actual university's with real professors that teach real subjects

and there are FAKES like prager U that produces propaganda SPIN CARTOONS

IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE

everyone has there own opinions
every one does NOT get there own FACTS

your prager cartoons are simply lying





Like I said correct the facts then.
Imagine there is no "U".
Imagine its just some guy talking, correct him.

I seek truth, it would benefit anyone to not believe lies, if you think you have it share it.
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SPINNING

MAKE ME PUKE

BOTH FOR REAL

AND ON THE NET

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Prager might lead some people to a realization by instilling an interest to question narratives. I listened to his radio show for a good while and for my beliefs he won't deliver. None do or they don't get airtime.

Maybe he's a stepping stone to counter the agenda pushed by college professors teaching theories.
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Originally posted by ray b:
please go find a local skin-head neo-nazi and
TELL THEM THEY ARE A LIBERAL
then let us know what hospital to send the flowers




If you missed my other post about how people are confused and don't know what they are talking about back up a few posts... I already said that.

I'll add that labels are labels because they are useful, they aren't always correct, even if some used to be correct ...time goes on as well. Hype is hype and people that act like sheep are in effect, sheep.

 
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SPINNING MAKE ME PUKE BOTH FOR REAL AND ON THE NET



That doesnt clarify things.

Question wonder and be wierd, are you kind?

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That doesnt clarify things.




JUST ASK ONE neo or old 30's style they KNOW
they are RIGHTWING EXTREME RIGHTWING
sorry if you do not like them on ''your'' side
but no you can't blame them on me

ANYTHING TRYING TO SPIN THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE IS PROPAGANDA

but our rightwing does love the BIG LIE
AND USES IT OFTEN
I guess it is a part of the rightwing heritage
and I know where you side got it

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yes the nazi said they were socialist
they LIED

NK said they are the democratic peoples republic of Korea
they ain't democratic or a republic GUESS THEY GOT KOREA CORRECT

just like the trifecta of the holy roman empire is was not holy or roman or an empire
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Originally posted by sourmash:

Socialism probably only works under ethnic nationalism. China.


China’s economy is capitalist. Don’t confuse the government structure with the economic structure.
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NAZIs were a socialist state, committed to the ethnic Germanic people.

 
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China’s economy is capitalist. Don’t confuse the government structure with the economic structure.


Doesn't the government have a share in business there? At least foreign owned business.
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China’s economy is capitalist. Don’t confuse the government structure with the economic structure.


While it is true not to construe government with economy, China's economy is definitely not capitalist. The Chinese government owns numerous large companies.
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While it is true not to construe government with economy, China's economy is definitely not capitalist. The Chinese government owns numerous large companies.



Watching you lecture about China to a man that lives and works in CHINA.....

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