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Watching [RandomTask] lecture about China to a man that lives and works in CHINA.....

No. RandomTask was not "lecturing" Hudini.

That is a gross misuse of the word "lecture." And underneath that, an ugly (and totally ridiculous) animosity . . . but I choose not to even finish this sentence--it just isn't worth it.

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Originally posted by sourmash:Doesn't the government have a share in business there? At least foreign owned business.


Isn't it unrealistic to describe China as capitalist? Seriously, it's unrealistic. China isnt all one thing or the other. Neither is the USA. When the gov declares a state of emergency, forces smaller businesses to shut down while allowing larger ones to hammer down on sales while still dictating what products can and can't be sold in person, we do not practice capitalism. Is that Mercantilism?

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Originally posted by ray b:

yes the nazi said they were socialist
they LIED

NK said they are the democratic peoples republic of Korea
they ain't democratic or a republic GUESS THEY GOT KOREA CORRECT

just like the trifecta of the holy roman empire is was not holy or roman or an empire



RAYB! Been a long time! Haven't seen you on here in a while! I'm back in Florida now... not Miami, but Tampa. I don't see Neptune posting here, I think he was in Orlando, Randye is in Tampa... and there's a few others of us.

Just shows how long we've all been here. Your avatar refers to the Tea Party, and I don't think the vast majority of people today even remember what that was. That was like ~11-12 years ago, haha.

What have you been up to?
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RAYB! Been a long time!

What have you been up to?



If his posts on page 1 of this thread are any indication, he's been busy "socializing"...

Like this guy:



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Originally posted by ray b:

JUST ASK ONE neo or old 30's style they KNOW..



 
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yes the nazi said they were socialist
they LIED ...



I guess you can have it both ways in your head if you want to. But it doenst make a lot of sense in reality.
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Originally posted by ray b:there are actual university's with real professors that teach real subjects

and there are FAKES like prager U that produces propaganda SPIN CARTOONS

IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE

everyone has there own opinions
every one does NOT get there own FACTS



prager U / Dennis Prager often teaches hope. Those "actual university's" do teach plenty of propaganda, hate, and divisiveness.
Nothing wrong with more opinions, the facts will play out in time.
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Unless it's JFK's murder, WWII and anything related.
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While it is true not to construe government with economy, China's economy is definitely not capitalist. The Chinese government owns numerous large companies.


The Chinese government is heavily invested in certain companies. That does not mean they run the companies. They do not “own” the companies as your words suggest total control. It’s more like the gov has a vested interest in success, but not a leadership role in direction. However there is no doubt what would happen to the company leaders should it fail.

It’s cutthroat capitalism here. Just look up what happened to the CEO of Hainan Group.
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Isn't it unrealistic to describe China as capitalist? Seriously, it's unrealistic. China isnt all one thing or the other. Neither is the USA. When the gov declares a state of emergency, forces smaller businesses to shut down while allowing larger ones to hammer down on sales while still dictating what products can and can't be sold in person, we do not practice capitalism. Is that Mercantilism?


It’s not unrealistic if you understand the difference between social programs and socialism. People like rayb and Threedog confuse the two and then talk down to “nut-cons” because we question their premise. The Chinese economy is capitalist. They have socialized medicine like Europe. They have social security like us. It’s paid for by taxes. They do not own the means of production like they did before 1978. They are heavily invested in certain industries like we did when bailing out GM and Chysler. Just beware of the anti-nut-cons known as libtards.
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I'm not that savvy on what the diff is, but someone I respect calls them closer to national socialism than the world wants to admit for the obvious reasons.

Supposedly they aren't going to bail out Evergrande but if it gets contagious that will change, I suspect.

They aren't playing BlackRock's game (so far), which is a good tack to take. Will they get their digital currency when they thought? Probably not.
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It’s not unrealistic if you understand the difference between social programs and socialism. People like rayb and Threedog confuse the two and then talk down to “nut-cons” because we question their premise. The Chinese economy is capitalist. They have socialized medicine like Europe. They have social security like us. It’s paid for by taxes. They do not own the means of production like they did before 1978. They are heavily invested in certain industries like we did when bailing out GM and Chysler. Just beware of the anti-nut-cons known as libtards.


Leftists also make the same dumb conflation about Scandinavian countries.

Their Comrade Bernie Sanders bolstered his political platform with that lie.

Sweden indeed did "dabble" around with socialism in the early 70's but quickly felt the pain and the damage and went back to a strict free market economy in the 80s.

Norway, Denmark and Finland never went down that Marxist blind alley and they have always had very robust free market economies, especially Norway which derives huge capitalist income from offshore oil.

They also have generous social programs but they are paid for by taxes that are actually MUCH LESS now, (both individual and corporate), than during their failed socialist experiment.

My extended family still owns and operates one of the few remaining independent beef and dairy cattle, ( Fjällko), operations in Sweden. They very nearly lost everything during the "socialist economic holocaust" as my cousin calls it.

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the ONLY are a few ways to have socialist/commie take over

THE ONE is install a RIGHTWING AUTHORITARIAN GOVERNMENT FIRST

that worked in russia with the czar

that worked in china as they had warlords

that was the way it worked in cuba with a rightwing dictator plus the american MOB

same as nic with a rightwing dictator


there is one other way
fight and lose a war with a commie nation
ask hitler how that goes

the is NO slippery slope of a little socialism leads to a commie take over
as that has never ever happens ever anywhere
the needed precondition is a nut-con RIGHTWING AUTHORITARIAN leadership like your orange semi-god the t-RUMP
who you guys love
not the demo's who you hate

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RAYB! Been a long time! Haven't seen you on here in a while! I'm back in Florida now... not Miami, but Tampa. I don't see Neptune posting here, I think he was in Orlando, Randye is in Tampa... and there's a few others of us.

Just shows how long we've all been here. Your avatar refers to the Tea Party, and I don't think the vast majority of people today even remember what that was. That was like ~11-12 years ago, haha.

What have you been up to?


last major project was a cat 5 proof roof
as we are in the ANDREW eye wall path
and the old roof a rush post ANDREW JOB was failing [done before I bought] as are most around here

got a bunch of neighbors to help and redid my roof to survive the more intense hurricanes we have had recently
as no roofer would even bid on the job the way I wanted it done

lucked into surplus NEW plywood from a huge condo job still bundled cheap before the huge price jump I got 100 sheets
and steel galvanized 5 v from a change order job [wife wanted the standing seam ] extra long way more then needed to do one layer

sister-ed [doubled] the end beams then added 2 extra plywood layers screwed and glued for a 1 1/2 '' base deck that is effectively one piece
code is 1 layer of ply nailed on no glue no screws how can that stand up to a cat 5 ? most do NOT
then used new synthetic no tar no paper materials to seal the wood [plastic] call hi-temp ice and water shield that self seals the screws
and doubled every other metal sheet of gal steel with extra long screws into the beams not just the decking
some are 4 layer laps over the roof peak
bent and screwed down the ends to the fascia so winds can't flap them [roofers will not do that ]
then added 1/2'' SS cable 23k load rated lbs over the roof to the ground slab just in case

we are in a rare no flood no surge area so wind only threat here
if ANDREW could not flood us nothing will until GW raises the sea level a few feet

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Al Gore promised a 20 foot increase in sea levels. Has that deadline already passed for when it was supposed to happen. Greta and AOC promise that we won't have to worry about it 10 years, because it'll be too late.

Ray, your historical example has no line of connection. I will say, without a communist movement from the Bolsheviks there would be no successful NSDAP right wing group assuming power. So, what you're trying to say is reversed from what happened. The West called Germany a miracle and made Adolf Man of the Year. Britain and the USA made the Soviet communist successor in Germany what it became. We put almost half of Europe under communist Soviet Allies. How'd that work out?
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Originally posted by sourmash:

Al Gore promised a 20 foot increase in sea levels. Has that deadline already passed for when it was supposed to happen. Greta and AOC promise that we won't have to worry about it 10 years, because it'll be too late.

Ray, your historical example has no line of connection. I will say, without a communist movement from the Bolsheviks there would be no successful NSDAP right wing group assuming power. So, what you're trying to say is reversed from what happened. The West called Germany a miracle and made Adolf Man of the Year. Britain and the USA made the Soviet communist successor in Germany what it became. We put almost half of Europe under communist Soviet Allies. How'd that work out?


no al never said 20ft in 20 years
and very few on the right noticed the unexpected solar spot/heat reduction that is the big current deal in post 2000 time
but even with less spots we are still gaining avg temps NOT reducing like in every prior cycle of low spots
just gaining less heat over time
but trends are clear and every year more cat 5's hit oceans are warmer ect

so I could pay 5k a year in storm ins locally separate from home owners
or pay an extra 10k once and not need high priced ins as my roof will not blow away

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part 2

the commie thing is true
YOU DO NOT LIKE IT
BUT IT IS FACT
AUTHORITATIVE RIGHTWING GOVERNMENTS CAN AND HAVE LEAD TO COMMIE REVOLTS

simply said rightwing nut-con's like t-rump cause the commies to revolt and take power
rightwingers do not prevent commies they are the step BEFORE THE COMMIES

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Originally posted by ray b:

part 2

the commie thing is true
YOU DO NOT LIKE IT
BUT IT IS FACT
AUTHORITATIVE RIGHTWING GOVERNMENTS CAN AND HAVE LEAD TO COMMIE REVOLTS

simply said rightwing nut-con's like t-rump cause the commies to revolt and take power
rightwingers do not prevent commies they are the step BEFORE THE COMMIES



The Moral of the Story

Either way.. avoid socialist commies and what they entail.
Swinging pendulums, you dont want them swinging very far each way.
They lead the public astray 1st. Part of the problem in my opinion is the erasing of principles, eroding of the constitution, and not teaching history to kids.

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last major project was a cat 5 proof roof
as we are in the ANDREW eye wall path
and the old roof a rush post ANDREW JOB was failing [done before I bought] as are most around here

got a bunch of neighbors to help and redid my roof to survive the more intense hurricanes we have had recently
as no roofer would even bid on the job the way I wanted it done

lucked into surplus NEW plywood from a huge condo job still bundled cheap before the huge price jump I got 100 sheets
and steel galvanized 5 v from a change order job [wife wanted the standing seam ] extra long way more then needed to do one layer

sister-ed [doubled] the end beams then added 2 extra plywood layers screwed and glued for a 1 1/2 '' base deck that is effectively one piece
code is 1 layer of ply nailed on no glue no screws how can that stand up to a cat 5 ? most do NOT
then used new synthetic no tar no paper materials to seal the wood [plastic] call hi-temp ice and water shield that self seals the screws
and doubled every other metal sheet of gal steel with extra long screws into the beams not just the decking
some are 4 layer laps over the roof peak
bent and screwed down the ends to the fascia so winds can't flap them [roofers will not do that ]
then added 1/2'' SS cable 23k load rated lbs over the roof to the ground slab just in case

we are in a rare no flood no surge area so wind only threat here
if ANDREW could not flood us nothing will until GW raises the sea level a few feet




Hahaha... GW... I read that as "GB" as in George Bush... haha.

No judgement, but did you get permitting for that? I ask because I had a home addition to my house in Fort Lauderdale, which I currently rent out. They had what essentially becomes two peaks going into a valley on my roof... and I have no idea why they didn't just extend the roof peak so it goes over the other one. The roof leaks every time there's a hurricane because it overwhelms that area. I'm at 16 years now with the "new roof" I had put on, and thinking of tearing all that **** out and building my own roof truss extension so the roof looks normal, and not ridiculous. Just wondering if that's something I can get away with.

Anyway, that's pretty awesome. My house doesn't flood... but it got hit hard during Wilma back in 2005.


My Fiero is still in storage somewhere in Central Florida, where it's been for literally a decade. Been thinking of finally taking it out of storage now that I live here in Tampa, and it's maybe an hour away...
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HAD A LONG PROCESS WITH LOCAL SMALL TOWN BLD DEPT HEAD GUY

started a few years before just talking about better roofing ideas
the local contractor/inspectors would only approve a by the code book design
so I had to convince the head guy an actual city employee the code don't work over cat 3
and I wanted stronger better thicker glue and screws not nailed 6 ft laps not butted metal sheets
was not quick cheap or eazy but it is strong and over code
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HAD A LONG PROCESS WITH LOCAL SMALL TOWN BLD DEPT HEAD GUY

started a few years before just talking about better roofing ideas
the local contractor/inspectors would only approve a by the code book design
so I had to convince the head guy an actual city employee the code don't work over cat 3
and I wanted stronger better thicker glue and screws not nailed 6 ft laps not butted metal sheets
was not quick cheap or eazy but it is strong and over code



Damn, I can only imagine how that conversation must have gone... I bet it took a long time. I may just try to do it and hope no one notices... hahaha...
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You're only concentrating on half the story though. Extremes on either side will cause a reflexive pendulum effect to tha other side.

You're the only person on the left I've heard talk about the grand solar minimum. It's always right wingers because the left wants to use weather to institute more government boots on the neck.

In 5 years let's revisit the yearly temps thing and look at where we land. And let's look at where they're placing the recording devices (near mechanical heat sources, for example) and we'll know more.

The roof sounds pretty excellent, actually.
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Communism came and went in "Mother Russia".

When you visit Red Square / The Kremlin nowadays you will probably feel like you're on Hollyweird Boulevard in LA.

Josef Stalin and Vladimir Lenin impersonators hassle tourists for photos at $20 a pop.

I really LOVE the image of ersatz Stalin munching McDonalds fries while Lenin sits with none! LOL





Here are the "Heros of Marxism" dividing up their daily capitalist earnings:



Capitalism has uplifted more human beings from oppression, misery and poverty than any system yet devised by the mind of man.

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Lol at the fries comment.

An investment guy pointed out that the uplifting statement about capitalism is true by illustrating that regardless of wealth status most people have access to the same products and food (that the rich have access to). Meaning that most people can afford a car, they drink the same soda and eat very similar foods. In past systems very few people could afford some things and those people had access to much better quality of food, shelter and clothing.
Warren Buffet drinks the same commercial drinks as middle and even lower income America.

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Wait wait wait... Did you really say that the Nazi party was just pretending to be Socialist?


You've got to be kidding and I missed the nuance.

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Wait wait wait... Did you really say that the Nazi party was just pretending to be Socialist?


You've got to be kidding and I missed the nuance.


you do know who invented the BIG LIE ?

please ask a neo-nazi if they are a liberal/socialist
then let us know what hospital to send your flowers to
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you do know who invented the BIG LIE ?

please ask a neo-nazi if they are a liberal/socialist
then let us know what hospital to send your flowers to


You obviously don't know who it was. Tell us who invented the big lie. I guarantee you don't actually know.
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please ask a neo-nazi if they are a liberal/socialist
then let us know what hospital to send your flowers to

Some of us have done that. They just stomped their feet and called us names, then started crying. That's what liberal/socialist/leftists do. Then they burn your house down in the middle of the night, or just key your car.
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A Neo- NAZI would also define as a Socialist, as an ethnic national socialist.
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OK, I'm not seeing the difference





The only thing I see is that the first group doesn't seem to have any females with them. I wonder why.
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you do know who invented the BIG LIE ?

please ask a neo-nazi if they are a liberal/socialist
then let us know what hospital to send your flowers to


You said this before, which I also commented on without a response from you.
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fun stuff....remember 9/11?

ever wonder why all the talk of the socialist hero fireman and police, and little mention of the fact the twin towers was one of the tallest stacked piles of capitalist lawyers, bankers and such?

the US military is one of the largest socialist entities on earth. so, I would say most are fans, even if they dont know it. government owned, taxpayer paid...

know what the words mean.

most older folk are stuck with a lifetime of propaganda from the "cold war" about capitalism/socialism

and - lastly - socialism, capitalism, whatever - NEITHER works on its own. and everyone has differing needs on which they want the balance to sit at.

but, just stopping by, and had to add. good to see so many still active

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OK, I'm not seeing the difference





The only thing I see is that the first group doesn't seem to have any females with them. I wonder why.


One is alpha. The other is soy, beta, drug addled with mental illnesses. One carries weapons to attack. The other for defence. Yes, I spelled that way on purpose. One wants the segregate. The other wants to force integration.
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the US military is one of the largest socialist entities on earth. so, I would say most are fans, even if they dont know it. government owned, taxpayer paid...

know what the words mean.



Hey there glad you are still around.
Yes as I mentioned early on that is a cop out.
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I always laugh when people try to use legitimate government functions as “proof” of socialism. Imagine calling a 5th century King a socialist because he has an army. Guys, don’t be confused by this ruse. Socialism is the government controlling the means of production like Venezuela or early communist China or Pol Pot’s Cambodia. It’s not having a police department.
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Gov largely shut down the private business sector denying people the ability earn.
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you do know who invented the BIG LIE ?

please ask a neo-nazi if they are a liberal/socialist
then let us know what hospital to send your flowers to


Weird fact. I lived in an area that was ran by the KKK. (All Democrats). They hated the Skinheads and the Nazis.

The Skinheads down the road were all about anarchy, so you are confusing two different groups. The KKK, the Skinheads, and the Nazi party are different groups with different ideals and beliefs. I still know (though I haven't talked to them in decades for reasons) several people who are "Neo-Nazis". I had kids I grew up with that are members of the Skinheads. All the groups actively recruited in my area in the 80's. Heck, the Klan marched in the Christmas parade in Harrison and tossed out coins when I was a kid.

Look Up Harrison Arkansas. I lived there and Omaha Arkansas (The poorest town, in the poorest county in Arkansas under Clinton.) Among many other places.
I am glad I got the chance to live in several areas around the country growing up. I got to see a lot of different people. I went from Redneck Arkansas, to Ghetto Omaha Ne. to Chicago, and middle of nowhere Iowa. I've lived through some amazing things, and seen the best and worst of a lot of people.

At this point I'm thinking the BIG LIE was probably invented by a Democrat. What do I win? Is it a Concentration camp? It's a camp isn't it.

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Eve lied to Adam, but the phrase as commonly used and understood today, comes from Mein Kampf.
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Everyone in America is told that the German nationalists promoted it as a favored tactic to con people. This is false.
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VERY TIMELY



https://www.yahoo.com/news/...alism-090132684.html

Worth a read.

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As an aside, I did a lot of work during a 2 year period for one of my clients that had a facility down in the Dominican Republic.

I was in Santo Domingo about every other week and stayed at least a few days each trip.

One of the memorable things about my stays was watching Cuban and Venezuelan TV broadcasts in my hotel room.
Watching Raul Castro or Hugo Chavez talk and rant FOR HOURS with the sound turned way down on the TV was "interesting".
That batshit crazy Hugo Chavez even had a damn children's story hour where he read to kids....about what I have no clue since my Spanish isn't that great.

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