Says who ? Have you seen the suicidal rate of war veterans ? Depression ? Do you want some cheese, to go with that whine ? Now I am responsible for your depression?
Tell you what. I have got a trophy I will give you. Fact is, when I have to go to the restroom, I ain't scared to. I have to go.
Suicide rates among transgendered people stand at 41% attempted, soldiers stand at about 20%, there is not even a comparison to be made.
Originally posted by Threedog: Suicide rates among transgendered people stand at 41% attempted, soldiers stand at about 20%, there is not even a comparison to be made.
Let's not talk bullshit. Please.
Suicide rates "attempted" ? Suicide rates depict completion. Just like there is no "sort of pregnant".
Suicide rates "attempted" ? Suicide rates depict completion. Just like there is no "sort of pregnant".
Yup, tracking "attempted suicides" is pointless. If they are gonna do it, why don't they just man up and do it? I mean screw helping people who need help, that wouldn't be a very good use of time or research.
I'm certain that you are aware of pron videos available online. The ones where men sneak into women's locker rooms and bathrooms and record hidden camera footage of the women (And teens) undressing etc. I bet I could find gay sites with similar setups. (If I cared to look)
There is apparently a large following of these, since they are all over the internets. I don't care for them myself, I'm into the gay granny goat pron.
Yup, tracking "attempted suicides" is pointless. If they are gonna do it, why don't they just man up and do it? I mean screw helping people who need help, that wouldn't be a very good use of time or research.
Oh. Now it's attempted suicide. If you are gonna spread bullshit, at least make it deep enough to where I need boots. How does tracking attempted suicide help the mis-genderd delusional ?
We need a study to to see why they are killing themselves, ? It is my opinion that they kill themselves because they are not happy with themselves. I see a pattern. First, they were unhappy being a man/woman. White/black. Then they are unhappy being mis-gendered. When did their problem become mine ?
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I think I understand. I just got it! Sometimes, when I was a teenager, I was depressed. If they would have allowed me into the girl's showers I would have been much happier.
You...you do realize I was speaking hypothetically right? I am not a transgendered person myself. Are you really that thick?
First lets clarify one crucial point. There is NO SUCH THING as "Transgendered"
Gender is cultural. Sex is biological.
The vast majority of your so-called "transgendered" are in reality just homosexual *cross dressers* Why? Because the vast majority of your so-called "transgendered" never in their lives have sexual reassignment surgery, (SRS). Only approx. 30-33% of that tiny 0.2% of deviants that call themselves "transgender" ever have the surgery, (Yes, I went to the trouble to actually research it : http://www.thetaskforce.org...eports/ntds_full.pdf and http://www.advocate.com/pol...y-trans-people-myth)
This means that a miniscule 0.06% of them have had surgery to attempt to modify their appearance. Of course their original DNA remains unchanged.
The term "transgendered" has somehow replaced the previous term *transsexual*, but since the post surgical (trans) remain genetically the same sex they were born it is biologically impossible for them to be actually "transsexual". It is in reality what might be best termed as "surgical masquerade". An illusion. A deceit. False.
If you cut the penis off a male goat and glue feathers on his rump it does NOT make it a hen.
( Sorry Willie, I just had to get the goats back in there again....)
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You guys are on the wrong side of history. Just like people like you were when some people wanted equality for all races, screaming about biology and the "facts" about "savages." One day, people will look back on words like yours with shame that our country used to be so bigoted. Until then, keep living in fear that some tranny is going to say hi to you on the train.
You guys are on the wrong side of history. Just like people like you were when some people wanted equality for all races, screaming about biology and the "facts" about "savages." One day, people will look back on words like yours with shame that our country used to be so bigoted. Until then, keep living in fear that some tranny is going to say hi to you on the train.
It is all about controlling others...and here I thought our so-called conservatives were all about freedom and rights etc... but when someone else wants those rights, they are told, "no, I will judge you based on what I believe is moral and right....you are a perv, a deviant, for being different, you will not have the same rights I have, you don't deserve them".
This reminds me of when TV used to show married couples (with children) sleeping in separate beds.... shh... we know "it" happens, but we can't talk about "it"... for the children. Frankly, it was because some people were just too up-tight about sexuality. LOL!
It is all about controlling others...and here I thought our so-called conservatives were all about freedom and rights etc... but when someone else wants those rights, they are told, "no, I will judge you based on what I believe is moral and right....you are a perv, a deviant, for being different, you will not have the same rights I have, you don't deserve them".
One thing you got correct. It actually IS "all about controlling others".
Its about a tiny deviant percentage trying to control the majority of a community. Its about attempting to force the vast majority of a society to accept and cooperate with behaviors that society or community finds unacceptable, immoral or abhorrent.
According to your *loopy lib logic*, you are also very content for admitted pedophiles to have "lawful rights" to unfettered access to schools, playgrounds and daycare centers. They should also never face prosecution or punishment for possession of child pornography. They should never be "judged on what anyone else bases as moral and right".
I'll say it again.
Leftist liberals will invariably and inevitably side with evil over good, wrong over right, the lesser over the better, the ugly over the beautiful, the profane over the profound, and the behaviors that lead to failure over those that lead to success.
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You guys are on the wrong side of history. Just like people like you were when some people wanted equality for all races, screaming about biology and the "facts" about "savages." One day, people will look back on words like yours with shame that our country used to be so bigoted. Until then, keep living in fear that some tranny is going to say hi to you on the train.
Fortunately these opinions are from a dying generation. It is nice to hear someone else say this.
If someone has different opinion on tax laws, gun control, or immigration, I can respect that. I can have a conversation with them, disagree, and not mind much, they can change my mind with evidence. But when people have these backwards views against LGBT people and women's rights, can't stand them. It is just hate disguised as individualism and fear of something they don't understand.
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Oh. Now you done did it. We are quaking in our toilet stalls. Even though we are on the side of 98% of the world's history and have been since ... well, since forever.
Let me see if I got this right, . Mis-gendered people want to be able to go to a restroom in which they are comfortable. I do too. I would not let my daughter use a restroom I was not comfortable with.
San Antonio can not be the only city where vice squad action at public restrooms happens frequently. Sex crimes. Lewd and indecent conduct. Involving, oh, what's the right word/term, ... I am afraid I might offend someone, ... gay men ? US Congressman, a Republican Senator, Larry Craig, was arrested for just such an incident. At a public airport restroom. He might be a gay man. Horney too, . Fantasy Land.
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Originally posted by theBDub: Just like people like you ...
Heh ... You used to have a signature. "I am young, dumb, and naive. I am working on the last one". Something like that. Keep working on it.
People like me ? Look, I don't care if you want to wear a skirt, really, I don't. I don't care if you come into my restroom wearing it. What I do care about is people who think their problems are mine. People like me ? You mean people not like you ? Isn't that not kinda racist ?
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Originally posted by theBDub: One day, people will look back on words like yours with shame that our country used to be so bigoted.
Can I share the Serenity Prayer with you ?
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God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, Courage to change the things I can, And wisdom to know the difference.
I have no shame about the past. I have pride in today. I know the difference.
It is obvious that she has not read the laws nor anything anyone else has posted. Bruce and Bry told her that they were intolerant and anti-homosexual, therefore anyone who supports them is a troglodyte. She did not see a need to think for herself. The simple truth remains that the NC law upholds the rights of women and children and the MS law insures the free exercise of religion. I am in favor of both laws. They oppress no one. They support freedom and human rights. Of course this post, and the fact that I have said nothing derogatory about any special interest group, will also be dismissed.
Sometimes I think this younger generation deserves the likes of Bernie and Hillary.
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Originally posted by Threedog: Fortunately these opinions are from a dying generation. It is nice to hear someone else say this.
If someone has different opinion on tax laws, gun control, or immigration, I can respect that. I can have a conversation with them, disagree, and not mind much, they can change my mind with evidence. But when people have these backwards views against LGBT people and women's rights, can't stand them. It is just hate disguised as individualism and fear of something they don't understand.
Well now, isn't that special...
Congratulations on voicing *your* hate and intolerance of other people and their views.
Your HYPOCRITE t-shirt is waiting for you by the exit door.
Oh , and by the way, I probably won't be dying anytime soon kid, so don't hold your breath, ok?
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I don't think it makes any difference, about the one of them (or was it both of them?) having performed recently in Egypt.
Whether the two performers are positioning themselves on the better side of this issue, or on the not better side of this issue, I don't think that the fact that he (or they) performed in Egypt or some other place like Egypt particularly makes them hypocrites on this issue. There aren't enough facts available here to support that inference. (Or would that actually be a "deduction"..? Whatever.)
Maybe they felt (deep in their bones) that there was an overriding need for them to perform in Egypt, in order to harness the uniquely primal but powerful universal language of music as a way to transcend some of the other globally contentious divides between Muslims and non-Muslims, even as they were already fully aware of the problems that Egypt poses for its LGBTs. What is the sum total of injustices that anyone could fairly expect these musical pioneers to "put on their plate" all at the same time?
Perhaps it was only after the performance(s) in Egypt that they became fully aware of a moral imperative to make their stand on the side of LGBT equality. Possibly they were brought to this realization precisely because of what they saw or came to understand while they were in Egypt. It could be that it was only upon their return to the United States, when they were accosted by advocates of LGBT equality who saw an opportunity in the publicity that was generated by the performance(s) in Egypt, that the musical dynamic duo (or uno) were finally persuaded to become drum majors (a la Dr Martin Luther King) for the cause of LGBT equality.
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds..."
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Women are assulted by straight men all the time. So, men are a bad idea based on your statement. You should not be allowed out if the house, as a male, as you are a danger and you can't blame libs for that.
So, men are a bad idea based on your statement. You should not be allowed out if the house, as a male, as you are a danger and you can't blame libs for that.
This belief is the basis for much of the leftist philosophy.
I personally tend to have an immediate negative reaction to laws like those being implimented in the South and will freely admit it's due to my upbringing and personal POVs. As one who has experienced up close and observed first hand the effects of institutionalized discrimination, I tend to respond negatively whenever I see it being imposed on someone else.
ANYONE else....it has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation with me. It has to do with singling out a specific group of individuals for less-than-equal treatment. I don't like it and never will.
If "We're all created equal" makes me a crazed-eyed Leftie in some eyes, so be it. I'll wear the label with pride.
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Originally posted by Doni Hagan: It has to do with singling out a specific group of individuals for less-than-equal treatment. I don't like it and never will.
Can you point out where, in either of these two laws, anyone is singled out for less than equal treatment?
I personally tend to have an immediate negative reaction to laws like those being implimented in the South and will freely admit it's due to my upbringing and personal POVs. As one who has experienced up close and observed first hand the effects of institutionalized discrimination, I tend to respond negatively whenever I see it being imposed on someone else.
ANYONE else....it has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation with me. It has to do with singling out a specific group of individuals for less-than-equal treatment. I don't like it and never will.
If "We're all created equal" makes me a crazed-eyed Leftie in some eyes, so be it. I'll wear the label with pride.
Good to know that we can expect you to pipe right up and voice your demands for the "lawful rights" of pedophiles, necrophiliacs, agalmatophiliacs (arousal by statues), exhibitionists, voyeurs ("peeping toms"), and ANY other paraphilia, including incest and beastiality, to publically do as they please.
After all, "It has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation".
One more time:
Leftist liberals will invariably and inevitably side with evil over good, wrong over right, the lesser over the better, the ugly over the beautiful, the profane over the profound, and the behaviors that lead to failure over those that lead to success.
They will tear down what is good and raise up what is bad, with an all-consuming conviction that "EVERYTHING MUST BE EQUAL" so that they may never have to *discriminate* in ANY way.
Oh and by the way Doni, your latest post on this topic is at least the 3rd time you have attempted to insinuate *racial discrimination* into a discussion about a rational and orderly society's right to discriminate against BEHAVIORS that the majority of that society or community agree to be objectionable. There is a vast difference, however I rarely expect the liberal mind to be able to make that distinction, principally for the aforementioned reasons.
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Being liberal means refusing common sense precautions and requiring other people to pay for the consequences.
Which, coincidentally, describes children. In his book, "The Kindergarten of Eden", author Evan Sayet details how the modern liberal thinks like a child.
Four pages and five days, and no one has actually been able to cite the law in their objection. They have only been able to say things like, "conservatives are dying" or "I don't like southerners".
I personally tend to have an immediate negative reaction to laws like those being implimented in the South and will freely admit it's due to my upbringing and personal POVs. As one who has experienced up close and observed first hand the effects of institutionalized discrimination, I tend to respond negatively whenever I see it being imposed on someone else.
I tend to respond positively when I see institutionalized discrimination. What should we call this group of butthurt Americans ? Mis-Gendered Americans ?
Do you know what we should do with them ? Segregate them. Make them get their own damn bathroom and restrict them to it. That would be a positive response, wouldn't it ? Nothing discriminating about that 'eh ? We force Gendered Americans, of any race, to do the same thing.
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Originally posted by Doni Hagan: ANYONE else....it has nothing to do with one's sexual orientation with me. It has to do with singling out a specific group of individuals for less-than-equal treatment. I don't like it and never will.
ANYBODY but us ? Why should gendered individuals be forced to share the bathroom with a member of the opposite sex ? If they are saying they are of their own sexuality, they need their own bathroom. That should be their goal. But it is not.
They want to be accepted. It hasn't happened in the history of the world.
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Originally posted by theBDub: You guys are on the wrong side of history.
Originally posted by theBDub: Sorry, Cliff, I am coming back to your post, I just haven't been on a computer for awhile. It's hard to do long posts on my phone.
No apology necessary. Feel free to have at me. I don't do short posts from my phone, .
Wow. This is the first time I read the first post of this thread.
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Originally posted by Threedog: I think it is hilarious that people are mad about this, claiming Adams and Springsteen are "bullies".
Who do you know that is mad about it ? I am not. Then again, I didn't pay $XX.XX00 dollars for a ticket. I didn't even have a planned evening I was intent on enjoying.
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Originally posted by Threedog: But, really, [b]aren't Adams and Springsteen simply exercising their right not to do business in places that go against their "sincerely held beliefs"?[b] Ah... the irony!
Well, since Adams and Springsteen are not simply exercising their right not to do business in places that go against their "sincerely held beliefs" I don't get your "Ah, the irony" strawman.
Originally posted by randye: Good to know that we can expect you to pipe right up and voice your demands for the "lawful rights" of pedophiles, necrophiliacs, agalmatophiliacs (arousal by statues), exhibitionists, voyeurs ("peeping toms"), and ANY other paraphilia, including beastiality, to publically do as they please.
I wonder how he feels about inbred sexual equality.
I wonder why Bruce Springsteen still lives in New Jersey?
Quotes from the New Jersey constitution:
The Preamble:
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A Constitution agreed upon by the delegates of the people of New Jersey, in Convention, begun at Rutgers University, the State University of New Jersey, in New Brunswick, on the twelfth day of June, and continued to the tenth day of September, in the year of our Lord one thousand nine hundred and forty-seven.
We, the people of the State of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing upon our endeavors to secure and transmit the same unimpaired to succeeding generations, do ordain and establish this Constitution.
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3. No person shall be deprived of the inestimable privilege of worshipping Almighty God in a manner agreeable to the dictates of his own conscience; nor under any pretense whatever be compelled to attend any place of worship contrary to his faith and judgment; nor shall any person be obliged to pay tithes, taxes, or other rates for building or repairing any church or churches, place or places of worship, or for the maintenance of any minister or ministry, contrary to what he believes to be right or has deliberately and voluntarily engaged to perform.
And Mississippi:
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PREAMBLE We, the people of Mississippi in convention assembled, grateful to Almighty God, and invoking his blessing on our work, do ordain and establish this constitution.
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SECTION 18. Freedom of religion. No religious test as a qualification for office shall be required; and no preference shall be given by law to any religious sect or mode of worship; but the free enjoyment of all religious sentiments and the different modes of worship shall be held sacred. The rights hereby secured shall not be construed to justify acts of licentiousness injurious to morals or dangerous to the peace and safety of the state, or to exclude the Holy Bible from use in any public school of this state.
Then there is this:
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SECTION 40. Oath of office. Members of the Legislature, before entering upon the discharge of their duties, shall take the following oath: “I, ________ , do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully support the Constitution of the United States and of the State of Mississippi; that I am not disqualified from holding office by the Constitution of this state; that I will faithfully discharge my duties as a legislator; that I will, as soon as practicable hereafter, carefully read (or have read to me) the Constitution of this State, and will endeavor to note, and as a legislator to execute, all the requirements thereof imposed on the Legislature; and I will not vote for any measure or person because of a promise of any other member of this Legislature to vote for any measure or person, or as a means of influencing him or them so to do. So help me God.”
And Judicial:
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SECTION 155. Judicial oath of office. The judges of the several courts of this state shall, before they proceed to execute the duties of their respective offices, take the following oath or affirmation, to-wit: “I, ________ , solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as ________ according to the best of my ability and understanding, agreeably to the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution and laws of the State of Mississippi. So help me God.”
All this for less than 4 percent of the population, which is a tiny minority. The Democrats keep crying we live in a democracy, which we don't, and when the majority speaks on an issue they go crying to the courts to get what they want. Talk about hypocrisy. Then they cry separation of church and state, and fail to realize that the belief in God is just that a belief not a religion. Religion involves worship.
Originally posted by 2.5: Why do we have separate bathrooms?
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Originally posted by jaskispyder: We don't need it that way... why not change it and just make better stalls (if people want privacy). Heck many restrooms don't have doors, only maze like entrances.
Make better stalls, ? People do want privacy. There is nothing wrong with the ones we got. They don't even need doors. Each sex respects the privacy of the opposite sex, avoiding the other's Restroom. They use their own. Speaking of stalls ... the inside stalls are good enough too. With doors. Freddy Feminine has plenty of privacy in either a man's or a woman's restroom.
Don't give me that crap about how Sam more closely identifies himself as Susan. What makes you think other Susans want to identify with him ? Any more than Joe Hang'in or Man Manly ?
Let me tell you a story Honey, women can spot you from a mile away. Once, while driving with my Babe, I noticed an attractive figure. I got caught looking too long I guess. Did my Babe scold me ? Was she mad at me ? No. She made me feel stupid. She told me that was a transvestite I saw. (Is that an acceptable word [/quaking] ?). She made me drive around the block and see. The moral of the story Honey, is, ... you can't go into the woman's restroom and play make believe that you are invisible to us. Not even to yourself. You would then again be deluding yourself.
I have to ask. Where is Freddy Feminine's gay pride ?
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? It is my opinion that they kill themselves because they are not happy with themselves. I see a pattern. First, they were unhappy being a man/woman. White/black. Then they are unhappy being mis-gendered. When did their problem become mine ?
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