A little update, here's some pictures of the finished engine compartment and the interior.I've been going to some car shows and the car always seems to be the hit of the show.Most people didn't think you could put that big of an engine in a Fiero without cutting it up.
I'm planning on taking it to the dragstrip in Sept or Oct to see what kind of times it will turn.I'm thinking it might be faster than my old Too Far.The proof will be in the pudding. Don
------------------ Too Far 60' - 1.491 sec 1/4 mi - 11.323 sec mph - 116.40
A little update, here's some pictures of the finished engine compartment and the interior.I've been going to some car shows and the car always seems to be the hit of the show.Most people didn't think you could put that big of an engine in a Fiero without cutting it up.
Neat and clean install. You'll be making more power than the 3800SC but low 11's high 10's is going to be hard to beat. You should be making more power but IMO getting it to the pavement will be the challenge.
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[This message has been edited by Dennis LaGrua (edited 07-17-2009).]
I'm looking at getting it on the track in Sept or Oct.I want to get a few thousand miles on it first.Besides I need to let Fiero X keep the fastest title a little longer or he might get dispondent and want to build something else other than a Fiero like the last time. Just kidding Ryan.
Don
Is she almost ready for the track yet Don? I keep checking in here for some new news, but it's been kinda quiet here for a while..
I haven't posted anything because there is nothing new.I've just been breaking it in and sorting out little glitches as I find them.I did just get my 10 inch M&H sticky drag tires and I should be getting my wheels this week or next.They were one off the glitches,the Wilwood brake calipers hang over the outside of rotor 1 3/8's and you can't get a wheel from any manufactorer that will clear it,I called them all.So I had to spend the money and order custom wheels like I have on the car.I'll be poorer but will look great going down the track.I should make it to the track the first part of Oct. I don't have a video of the supertrapps,but I can tell you they sound and work great.The tone is throuty but not loud and don't restrict the exhaust.I'm glad I used them now and I'll do it again,people know there's somethig in there without the raspy sound.
Don
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You ready for one of those billet paddle shifters since you have that PCS controller on that transmission? That would look sweet in there with that custom dash...
http;//www.fastfieros.com/catalog.htm One paddle shifter in stock
I haven't posted anything because there is nothing new.I've just been breaking it in and sorting out little glitches as I find them.I did just get my 10 inch M&H sticky drag tires and I should be getting my wheels this week or next.They were one off the glitches,the Wilwood brake calipers hang over the outside of rotor 1 3/8's and you can't get a wheel from any manufactorer that will clear it,I called them all.So I had to spend the money and order custom wheels like I have on the car.I'll be poorer but will look great going down the track.I should make it to the track the first part of Oct. I don't have a video of the supertrapps,but I can tell you they sound and work great.The tone is throuty but not loud and don't restrict the exhaust.I'm glad I used them now and I'll do it again,people know there's somethig in there without the raspy sound.
Don
What a coincidence....I was looking for wheels for my car
Your existing ones wouldn't happen to be going up for sale?
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Hey Loyd,that paddle shifter looks pretty nice.How much is it?That could be a quick winter project.I'm hoping to get to the track on Sat the !7th if my wheels get back in time.I had to send them back because they didn't fit AGAIN,the 15 inch wheel don't go up high enough with a 6 1/2 inch backset, the rim hits the strut at the top bolt.
Adam,for your information,you can use a 10 1/2 inch rim with a 6 1/2 inch backset on a 17 inch rim or bigger.6 inches would be better but 6 1/2 will work but the tire will be close to the strut.The outside of the tire will just miss the fender as it goes up by about a little less than a half an inch.If you try anything else it won't work,believe me I've tryed it.
Don
------------------ Too Far 60' - 1.491 sec 1/4 mi - 11.323 sec mph - 116.40
I agree with Mr. Ferrari. I hope you get this down the track before the season ends. I'm really curious to see what kinds of times this beast will run. It'll be interesting to see what kind of 60fts you will be able to cut.
------------------ '88 GT- 3800 Turbo Best E.T.- 11.654 Best MPH-120.65 gmtuners.com -Build info
You ready for one of those billet paddle shifters since you have that PCS controller on that transmission? That would look sweet in there with that custom dash...
http;//www.fastfieros.com/catalog.htm One paddle shifter in stock
I'm hoping to get to the track on Sat the 17th if my wheels get back in time.I had to send them back because they didn't fit AGAIN,the 15 inch wheel don't go up high enough with a 6 1/2 inch backset, the rim hits the strut at the top bolt.
Hey Loyd,that paddle shifter looks pretty nice.How much is it?That could be a quick winter project.I'm hoping to get to the track on Sat the !7th if my wheels get back in time.I had to send them back because they didn't fit AGAIN,the 15 inch wheel don't go up high enough with a 6 1/2 inch backset, the rim hits the strut at the top bolt.
Adam,for your information,you can use a 10 1/2 inch rim with a 6 1/2 inch backset on a 17 inch rim or bigger.6 inches would be better but 6 1/2 will work but the tire will be close to the strut.The outside of the tire will just miss the fender as it goes up by about a little less than a half an inch.If you try anything else it won't work,believe me I've tryed it.
Don
I just want to be sure I am understanding what you are saying here. You are saying a 17" x 10.5" wheel w/ 6.5" of backspace works. Correct? What year is the car?
Thank you.
Edit: Is the tire below your spring perch?
[This message has been edited by Primaris (edited 11-25-2009).]
I just want to be sure I am understanding what you are saying here. You are saying a 17" x 10.5" wheel w/ 6.5" of backspace works. Correct? What year is the car?
Thank you.
Edit: Is the tire below your spring perch?
I am using an 18" x 10.5" with a 6 1/8" backspace and that is about perfect.
------------------ 87 GT Tilt Clip-Widebody-RamAir-Fastback-GlassHatch Powered by SBC 383 6-speed w/ NOS Build Thread Goals in Life: 1. Get Married..........Check! 2. Build Dream Car..........Check! 3. Get Wife to Come Back...
Primaris,the car is an 88,but you have to understand you must have some modifications to make this work.You will need coil over struts and a wider body like my IMSA or Claytontos build.I think a 9 inch rim on a stock body with coil overs will work with a 17 inch wheel or bigger with a 6 to 6 1/2 setback.Stay 6 1/8 like Clay and you should be good.
Don
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Yeh,I broke the 4340 input shaft and that broke the carrier and that tore up the front of the case and torque converter.So I need to build a new transaxle with heavier parts and go to a 245mm converter.
Don
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Yeh,I broke the 4340 input shaft and that broke the carrier and that tore up the front of the case and torque converter.So I need to build a new transaxle with heavier parts and go to a 245mm converter.
Don
Ouch! You must be making some massive torque. Keep us posted in the new unit.
You did such a great job on building the IMSA..Hands done it's one of my top 5 fieros that i would love to own. One day I'll have the money to do at lease the IMSA body on my 85GT.
I hope the new trans does better then the first one.
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1999 GMC Jimmy 2dr 4x4 1987 Fiero Coupe 1986 Fiero Base Coupe..Steel Wheels Baby! 1985 Fiero GT 3800 N/A ...3800 S/C being built now! 1984 Fiero Indy #1098 w/ centerline "Q" Wheels,Hooker Tri-y header and Indy Scoop with Strobe's
I'm waiting for the Meziere custom made flexplate that I should have in a couple of weeks.Anyone can then get it from Meziere for an LS engine mated to a 4T65E transaxle from a V8 front wheel drive Impala.Then I need to put together the transaxle with the one inch chain and 3:29 gears. I will be selling the 7/8's chain and 3:69 gear set with a V8 input shaft I used in my other transaxle thats good for over 400 HP.The input shaft comes from the new transaxle that I will be using.I bought a 300m input shaft for mine.
Don
------------------ Too Far 60' - 1.491 sec 1/4 mi - 11.323 sec mph - 116.40
I'm waiting for the Meziere custom made flexplate that I should have in a couple of weeks.Anyone can then get it from Meziere for an LS engine mated to a 4T65E transaxle from a V8 front wheel drive Impala.Then I need to put together the transaxle with the one inch chain and 3:29 gears. I will be selling the 7/8's chain and 3:69 gear set with a V8 input shaft I used in my other transaxle thats good for over 400 HP.The input shaft comes from the new transaxle that I will be using.I bought a 300m input shaft for mine.
Yes,I was using the LS4 flexplate and it still looks good but with the carrier braking and the flexpate holding the converter alone with all the trama going on there I don't want to risk it.And this way I have a drag race approved flexplate for more safety.
Don
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Hey great cars! I was thinking though just to do you a favor and since you can only drive 1 at a time, that I would be more than willing to drive which ever car you weren't currently driving.
Just got it back on the road again.Running 3:29 gears now and needed a little help from PCS and Dan was great as always in programing the transaxle.Its just in time for the summer shows.
Don
------------------ Too Far 60' - 1.491 sec 1/4 mi - 11.323 sec mph - 116.40
Yes,I was using the LS4 flexplate and it still looks good but with the carrier braking and the flexpate holding the converter alone with all the trama going on there I don't want to risk it.And this way I have a drag race approved flexplate for more safety.
I do have the 1" chain in it now,I had the 7/8's before and I also have the 300m input shaft. The alainment of the transaxle and engine was off 40 thousands,so that broke the input shaft and then it tore up the converter and transaxle shaft. Thats the only thing I didn't check because when the transaxles you don't have a good way to measure it.I had to learn the hard way.
Don
------------------ Too Far 60' - 1.491 sec 1/4 mi - 11.323 sec mph - 116.40
Fieroguru,I think I was the victom of all three.Castings and hole borings are always a little different from one to another and then throw an adapter plate in there and if they all are a little off the same way you can get this.Thats why Lakewood makes offset guide pins to correct that.I'm within one thousands now just using their offset guide pins.I would warn anybody doing a swap like this that has a lot of horsepower and runs higher RPM's to be sure to take the time and check it.I didn't and it cost me.
Don
------------------ Too Far 60' - 1.491 sec 1/4 mi - 11.323 sec mph - 116.40
One day I'll have the money to do at lease the IMSA body on my 85GT.
