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Victor Davis Hanson by olejoedad
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I could have sworn this thread was about the writings and speeches by Victor Davis Hanson......

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THE FBI HAS NEVER CLAIMED THE CRIME RATE HAS DROPPED JUST BECAUSE SOME AGENCIES STOPPED REPORTING. IT DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT.



The FBI never claims the crime rate goes up. It does not work like that !
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I could have sworn this thread was about the writings and speeches by Victor Davis Hanson......


Joe, I have been following all of your posts by Victor Davis Hanson. I am a fan.
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Thanks cliffw, he is a true student of history, an accomplished author of historical nonfiction and a great thinker.

More people should pay attention to his works, because, as we all know....

HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

Thanks cliffw, he is a true student of history, an accomplished author of historical nonfiction and a great thinker.

More people should pay attention to his works, because, as we all know....

HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF.



I'm an avid reader, and listener, of everything that VDH produces. My personal library includes many of his books.

VDH's works on the late stages of WW2 and into the Cold War are especially instructive in understanding the genesis of our present sociopolitical mess.

Shelby Foote is also one of my favorite historians on the American Civil War and my library includes at least 20 of his works. There is a tremendous amount to be learned about the antebellum and post war fetid Demorat party from his books.

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I'm an avid reader, and listener, of everything that VDH produces. My personal library includes many of his books.

VDH's works on the late stages of WW2 and into the Cold War are especially instructive in understanding the genesis of our present sociopolitical mess.

Shelby Foote is also one of my favorite historians on the American Civil War and my library includes at least 20 of his works. There is a tremendous amount to be learned about the antebellum and post war fetid Demorat party from his books.



gee did you ever learn the southern democratic party was as conservative THEN as you are NOW ?
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You will have to study your classical history to even understand where and when the events discussed happened.
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gee did you ever learn the southern democratic party was as conservative THEN as you are NOW ?
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Gee, do you realize President John F Kennedy (D) was as conservative THEN as we are now ?
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The FBI never claims the crime rate goes up. It does not work like that !

WTF???

I can post thousands of examples of the FBI commenting on the rise of the crime rate over recent years.

Are you high?

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Shelby Foote is also one of my favorite historians on the American Civil War and my library includes at least 20 of his works. There is a tremendous amount to be learned about the antebellum and post war fetid Demorat party from his books.



Shelby Foote preserved a lot of historical data, but his understanding of history is kind of weak. He actually claimed that the "people in the south thought that slavery would die out on its own" and that "state's rights was the solution". But that makes zero historical sense when you see that The Constitution of the Confederacy made it illegal to outlaw slavery. That is the exact OPPOSIT of "States' Rights". If the Confederacy was about "states' rights" the states would have the right to make their wn decision on slavery. But they didn't. The whole "states' rights" argument is silly when you look at the Confederacy's Constitution.

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BingB, could you please have the courtesy to start a thread about crime stats, and quit sidetracking this topic?
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Shelby Foote preserved a lot of historical data, but his understanding of history is kind of weak.





I guess that we shall have to breathlessly await your books on the Civil War to rectify all that others are "weak" on, as you claim.
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

BingB, could you please have the courtesy to start a thread about crime stats, and quit sidetracking this topic?



You will have to talk to Cliff about that.
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I guess that we shall have to breathlessly await your books on the Civil War to rectify all that others are "weak" on, as you claim.

It is impossible to claim that every person who wrote book is correct because people write books with conflicting positions.

I did not post my opinion. I posted one of Foote's and showed why it made no sense. What is written in the Constitution of the Confederacy is not an "opinion" it is fact. It is impossible to claim that the Confederacy was going to give the states the rights to decide on slavery when their Constitution said it was illegal to ever ban slavery. The States if the Confederacy had NO "RIGHTS" when it came to slavery.

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You will have to talk to Cliff about that.


Actually, it's very simple for you to start a thread about crime stats, and etc.

Go for it!
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Actually, it's very simple for you to start a thread about crime stats, and etc.

Go for it!



Will you please stop derailing this thread with your request for me to start a new thread.

We stopped talking about crime stats but you just won't let it go.

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Will you please stop derailing this thread with your request for me to start a new thread.

We stopped talking about crime stats but you just won't let it go.


Read between the lines...

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When fred says "Stay on topic" that is as close to an admission of failure as he will ever proffer.

He will start an argument based on what he perceives as "special knowledge", then when he is defeated, he will demand that we drop it.
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More from VDH....

https://www.realclearpoliti...ry_times_151029.html

Republican claim to be populist supporters of the middle class, yet they oppose every single policy that would aid the middle class.

The right opposes unions and nothing in history has helped the middle class more than unions.

The right opposes universal health care.

The right supports tariffs paid by middle class citizens to help corporate profits.

The Trump administration only gave individuals a temporary tax break, but made the one to corporations permanent.

The right opposes an estate tax.

The right supports oil companies gouging middle class for record profits and even help by telling everyone Biden is to blame.

The right opposes family planning for the poor and middle class to help them better their condition.

The right opposes the wealthy paying the same rate of FICA that the middle class has to pay.
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Professor Victor Davis Hanson at his best ....

https://amgreatness.com/202...ericas-weakest-link/

The question is this ...

Are you part of the problem, or are you part of the solution?

I know where I have stood my entire adult life.

Do you?

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Professor Victor Davis Hanson at his best ....

https://amgreatness.com/202...ericas-weakest-link/

The question is this ...

Are you part of the problem,nor are you part of the solution.

I know where I have stood my entire adult life.

Do you?

Thanks for the link.

You know, considering Dr. Hansen's deep knowledge on the genesis of geopolitical turmoil, world conflicts. regime changes and all out wars, his current rather "bleak" outlook in his articles should give everyone pause. Unfortunately there is a certain ideological portion of the population that will refuse to even read Dr. Hansen's viewpoints and, of course, are the same people complicit in determining the destructive path we seem destined to follow.

As someone once said about where we seem to be headed: "You can vote your way in but you have to shoot your way out."

I've always wanted to ask Dr. Hansen, based on his historical knowledge, at what point does he think that "the guns will come out."

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"The law of unintended consequences" that may be coming could very well be swift and horrifying beyond imagination.

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more good reasons to see your side for exactly what it is

THE DARK SIDE
superstition cult leadership and greed with amped up fear
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more good reasons to see your side for exactly what it is

THE DARK SIDE
superstition cult leadership and greed with amped up fear

Meaningless drivel.
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Mr. Hanson is certainly prolific in his writing.

https://x.com/VDHanson/status/1798109656113668541

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VDH opines on the Trump-Brandon debate massacre.

Classic VDH, cogent, concise and truthful.



"Jill, the Edith Wilson of our times"...what a GREAT and ON POINT observation.

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' There you go again ! ' ~ Ronald Reagan at the Carter debate.
Biden_Joe cuts another cheese, stinking up the cnn studio.
' It wasn't me ! ' ~ Biden_Joe denying responsibility for the shart.
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You may delegate it but it is still with you.
You may share it with others but your portion is not diminished.
You may disclaim it but you cannot divest yourself of it.
Even if you do not recognize it or admit its presence,
you cannot escape it.
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Yeah, Biden_Joe might get a nuke WWIII started, to avoid an election loss, gripping power tighter.
The man's an imbecile !
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' Everything he touches turns to sheet ! ' ~ President D.J.Trump '24

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I see no avenue to reply to any of the gibberish posted already except that USMC is currently on track to exceed their 2024 recruitment goal. Army is doing better than last year but still expected to fall short 4ven tho they lowered their entry requirements. US Navy and Air Force should make their goals for 2024.
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More from the prolific VDH....


https://www.realclearpoliti...d_judges_151298.html

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More from the prolific VDH....


https://www.realclearpoliti...d_judges_151298.html




How can you just blindly believe all the lies this guy keeps telling?


Steeles Dossier had nothing to do with the start of the Russian collusion investigation. It was started because Trump advisor George Papadopolas told a foreign ambassador that Russia was going to help Trump by providing information on Hillary.

I have posted this undisputed FACT here about a dozen times. anyone who refuses to believe it is just being willfully ignorant because they doin't want to deal with the truth.

"After nearly two years, Mueller announced there was no evidence of a Trump effort to collude with Russia."


Actually the report stated a lot of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians, but not enough to charge him with a crimes. The report lists all the lies and attempts to hide evidence by Trump and his associates associates. It lists all the connections the Trump campaign had with Russia. And the report clearly says that it DOES NOT EXONERATE Donald Trump.

Victor Davis Hanson is only impressive because you like the lies he tells you. You just agree with the people who tell you what you want to hear.

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There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

Wake up and look around you
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There are none so blind, as those who will not see.

Wake up and look around you

I know. I am wide awake and looking straight at you. I have educated you over and over about the Steele Dossier, but yet you refuse to acknowledge reality. You just believe what you want to believe.

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I know. I am wide awake and looking straight at you. I have educated you over and over about the Steele Dossier, but yet you refuse to acknowledge reality. You just believe what you want to believe.


it is a cult that loves the lies

they hate it when ever the lies are exposed

and they accuse any one who sees thru their lies of hate

they never ever question any rump lie

that is not a good way to govern

but it is the rump way the cult way to rule

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The vocal minority speaks.

Don't know what they mean, as one lies and the other spouts gibberish.

They both just fell out of their coconut tree.
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Steeles Dossier had nothing to do with the start of the Russian collusion investigation. It was started because Trump advisor George Papadopolas told a foreign ambassador that Russia was going to help Trump by providing information on Hillary.


I did not know that George Papadopolas fell for Hillary's opposition claim and the planting of the Steele Dossier.

 
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"After nearly two years, Mueller announced there was no evidence of a Trump effort to collude with Russia."[/i][/b]

Actually the report stated a lot of evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians, but not enough to charge him with a crimes. The report lists all the lies and attempts to hide evidence by Trump and his associates associates. It lists all the connections the Trump campaign had with Russia. And the report clearly says that it DOES NOT EXONERATE Donald Trump.


Give us an example of Trump colluding with the Russians.
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