Patrick...you can stand where you want. It's up to you..100%. So can we.
What you cant do..is pass laws/mandates/orders to restrict OUR rights....and we are gonna get royally pizzed off when ya'all try to push us around and cancel-culture us.
Left aint running the show...
Here is a good quote from 1962
"What you can't do is pass laws that say we have to let blacks or jews into our neighborhoods or businesses."
You guys end up losing every time you talk like this. You bomb a few churches, kill a few children, lynch a few blacks, and then you get slapped down.
Hate doesn't win in America.
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"What you can't do is pass laws that say we have to let blacks or jews into our neighborhoods or businesses."
You guys end up losing every time you talk like this. You bomb a few churches, kill a few children, lynch a few blacks, and then you get slapped down.
Wanted to make you aware that this quote came from a Democrat.
And the third sentence there is something that literally only Democrats do. All the church firebombings have been by either ANTIFA, BLM, or Democrats doing false-flag attacks (every single one). The lynching is being done by Democrats (see KKK), and the children killing is pretty much also all Democrats (see abortion, suicides / mental illness, etc.).
Do we need to go over this again? You cannot change history, and you certainly can't fake it... I'm surprised the party still exists... quite honestly. Juneteenth holiday is literally celebrating the day that the Republicans freed the black slaves from the Democrats.
This harping on the persistence of "Democrat" as the name of one of the two major political parties across many decades and even more than 100 years of history—harping on it, without any regard to the underlying history itself—is the most ridiculous idea I've ever encountered.
This harping on the persistence of "Democrat" as the name of one of the two major political parties across many decades and even more than 100 years of history—harping on it, without any regard to the underlying history itself—is the most ridiculous idea I've ever encountered.
It's childish.
If anyone hasn't already figured this out—that "Democrat" and "Republican" have persisted as nomenclature since the Civil War, and before the Civil War for "Democrat"—but the underlying significance of "Democrat" and "Republican" has changed over time—I doubt that any further explanation that I could attempt would be understood.
Forum member "ray b" has his way of explaining it.
Forum member "82" has his way of saying more or less the opposite, in which he provides a long list of historical moments and events. The fallacy in that is not what "82" includes in his list. It's everything else that's part of the same history that he omits from his list. His list is one long "cherry pick".
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: I'm surprised the democratic party still exists... quite honestly.
They know they are in deep trouble. Their Hispanic block of voters is beginning to realize the idiocy of supporting democrats. As is the African American block of voters. The democratic party sees a snowball rolling downhill. Which is why they let in three million plus low information, low educated illegal aliens. Who will believe the free ice cream promise.
Forum member "82" has his way of saying more or less the opposite, in which he provides a long list of historical moments and events. The fallacy in that is not what "82" includes in his list. It's everything else that's part of the same history that he omits from his list. His list is one long "cherry pick".
The Republican history is quite literally the opposite of the Democrat history. Throughout ALL of history... while the Democrats enslaved, tortured, and did everything they could to pillage and benefit a select group of people, Republicans were the one fighting for civil rights, desegregating education, stopping abortion ... I mean, the Democrat party is a part of smoke and mirrors.
Almost anything you want to look at... let's take Environmentalism.
Who created the National Park Service, the very first National Park, the Division of Forestry, the EPA? Republicans did. Who passed the Privacy Rights Act of 1974 while Democrats continue to violate privacy? Republicans passed it. Who passed nearly all the civil rights acts? Republicans...
Now... you can make **** up by suggesting that maybe the Democrats weren't really Democrats, or the party has changed... or that Republicans really didn't know what they were doing and just kind of "fell" on the right side of history every time by happenstance. But this is complete nonsense... it's like saying my daughter exists because I accidentally fell on top of my wife one night.
No, this was all intentional. The Democrats own this history. This idea that the parties switched sides is completely absurd... it just is. It's erroneous because for one... no one can seem to figure out exactly "WHEN" it happened, or if it changed back.
Can we agree that FDR was definitely a Democrat? Well, if he was a Democrat, then was Eisenhower also a Democrat? Or was he a Republican? Because Eisenhower came literally right after Truman, whom everyone recognizes as a Democrat. FDR was a Democrat because both he and Truman were hard-core socialists and believed this is where we needed to be. Eisenhower was not. FDR, Truman, they both pushed and well-supported discriminatory laws that affected black Americans. They even appointed supreme court nominees that reinforced it. Eisenhower literally did the opposite... passing multiple anti-discrimination laws... including desegregation of education... which Democrats fought. So then you have Kennedy... who conceivable was a pariah in his party... a lot of people in his party disliked him, but generally, he won overwhelmingly both Republicans and Democrats because he was charismatic and centrist.
Was JFK really a Republican then? Because I will happily take him. But then how about Johnson ... the Communist supporter. Was he Republican too? Or was the party back to being Democrat again? Were the Democrats really Republicans before FDR, and then they quickly became Republicans again, except when the bills were racist (for short periods of time), and then come back to being Democrats again, only to temporarily be Republicans when they voted against the civil rights act, but then also Democrat again when the bill was signed into law by the president after the passage from the Republican-dominanted congress that was secretly Democrat?
And so what then with Nixon? Was he a Democrat? Or do we get to keep him except for the moment he signed into law the creation of the EPA?
How about Carter, was he then actually a Republican? Or Reagan? This gets confusing...
Maybe you can tell me then... how Al Gore's father voted AGAINST the civil rights act as a Democrat, and George Bush Sr's father voted FOR the civil rights act as a Republican? Were they secretly actually the other party?
And maybe you can tell me how my ONE path of lineage in this country... my grandfather on my mom's side... he's always been a Republican, and his family has always been a Republican from the days when they all lived in Missouri, and fought for the Missouri 23rd Volunteer Regiment for the Union Army (the Republicans)? Were they really Democrats? Just curious...
You are wrong, you are COMPLETELY wrong... and you KNOW you're wrong, and trying to convince me is really just you trying to convince yourself. Literally... literally... less than 10 years ago, the Democrats had a living senator, actively in the Senate, who had previously been a KKK Grand Master... and Bill Clinton... who's still alive, and his wife still involved in politics, was flying Confederate flags everywhere from his Democrat state of Kentucky... which is STILL a Democrat state. Florida was a Democrat state... it became Republican when Republicans like me, and my grandfather, and other Republicans started moving into it.
You scream that Republicans are racist... yet all of the racism in America's history from the Democrats. You scream that every Republican president will blow up the world with nukes... yet not one, but the only two nuclear weapons used in the history of the world were by Democrats. You scream Russian Collusion... yet, after years and years, it turns out the collusion was actually with the Democrats colluding.
Every single time... like, literally every single time. I try to be nice, I really do... but the Democrat party is the most vile ****ing organization I think I've ever read about in history. Like, I put them up there with Communist dictatorships and the NAZI party. The only reason why I even try to be reasonable with some of you guys is because I recognize that you're well-intentioned, but just extremely gullible to coercion from Democrat propaganda.
You scream that Republicans are racist... yet all of the racism in America's history from the Democrats..
We are not talking about "history". We are talking about today.
Anyone who knows anything about history knows that the white southerners who used to be Democrat switched to the Republican party after the passage of the Civil Rights Act. Lyndon Johnson even told everyone it would happen.
. This idea that the parties switched sides is completely absurd... it just is. It's erroneous because for one... no one can seem to figure out exactly "WHEN" it happened, or if it changed back.
Pretty much anyone who is able to do any research can tell you exactly when it happened. Here are the Souther State voting records showing wins by Republicans in the 16 presidential elections before 1964 and the 15 after 1964
.............. before....after Alabama...0..........13 Arkansas..0..........10 Georgia....0..........10 Florida......4..........10 Louisiana..1..........11 Mississ.....0..........13 N Car.......1...........13 S. Car......0...........14 Texas.......3...........12 Virginia....4...........10
And you call Democrats gullible? This would be funny if it was not so sad. You all just blindly believe anyone who tells you something tht you want to be true.
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We are not talking about "history". We are talking about today.
Anyone who knows anything about history knows that the white southerners who used to be Democrat switched to the Republican party after the passage of the Civil Rights Act. Lyndon Johnson even told everyone it would happen.
Wait, so you're telling me... the Democrats switched to become Republican, because they were mad at Kennedy for signing a Republican civil rights bill that the Republican house and senate passed, against a nearly unanimous Democrat vote against it? How in God's name does that make any sense at all?
Re-read my post... I'm not going to repeat myself. Yours is made-up history to explain-away the atrocious past of the Democrat party. The history is yours, it's factual... you're trying to explain it away by regurgitating a completely ridiculous conspiracy theory.
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Originally posted by fredtoast:
WTF? Russians helped Trump win. There is not much doubt about that. Democrats never colluded with Russians in any way.
What you're spouting was the allegation, which after 5+ years of investigations, revealed that in fact Trump had nothing at all to do with Russia, and in fact... Hillary was working with Russian foreign nationals instead.
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Originally posted by fredtoast:
Pretty much anyone who is able to do any research can tell you exactly when it happened. Here are the Souther State voting records showing wins by Republicans in the 16 presidential elections before 1964 and the 15 after 1964
.............. before....after Alabama...0..........13 Arkansas..0..........10 Georgia....0..........10 Florida......4..........10 Louisiana..1..........11 Mississ.....0..........13 N Car.......1...........13 S. Car......0...........14 Texas.......3...........12 Virginia....4...........10
And you call Democrats gullible? This would be funny if it was not so sad. You all just blindly believe anyone who tells you something tht you want to be true.
Again, this is nonsense... first of all, these stats are ridiculous. There haven't been 14 Republican presidential wins since Kennedy, so I don't know WTF you're smoking. Second, most of the country voted Republican... just take a look at the whole west coast. Everyone voted for Reagan, just like almost everyone voted for Clinton... because they were centrist-pro-worker presidents... same reason Trump won. Again... Democrats did not switch to become Republican because they were mad at the Democrats for passing a Republican civil rights bill. Your reasoning is unbelievably and completely nuts...
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Again, this is nonsense... first of all, these stats are ridiculous. There haven't been 14 Republican presidential wins since Kennedy, so I don't know WTF you're smoking . . .
That table is referencing Republican presidential wins at the state level. Take Alabama, for example. The table says that Alabama did not vote for the Republican candidate even once, in the 16 national elections leading up to 1964, and Alabama voted for the Republican candidate in 13 of the 15 national elections from 1964 forwards.
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Wait, so you're telling me... the Democrats switched to become Republican, because they were mad at Kennedy for signing a Republican civil rights bill that the Republican house and senate passed, against a nearly unanimous Democrat vote against it? How in God's name does that make any sense at all?
No. What I am saying is that you are completely clueless about history. You never learned anything in school and now just parrott ridiculous lies you read from right wing sources. Here is a perfect example....
You have been brainwashed to believe this claim. . . "The Civil Rights Act passed against a nearly unanimous Democrat vote against it."
Fact from reality....60% of Democrats voted IN FAVOR of the Civil rights Act.
I am starting to feel a little embarrassed for you.
The original House version: 290–130 (69–31%)[1] Cloture in the Senate: 71–29 The Senate version: 73–27 The Senate version, as voted on by the House: 289–126 (70–30%)
By party The original House version: Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%) Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)
Cloture in the Senate: Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%) Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
What you're spouting was the allegation, which after 5+ years of investigations, revealed that in fact Trump had nothing at all to do with Russia, and in fact... Hillary was working with Russian foreign nationals instead.
This is the silliest thing I have ever seen.
The Steele Dossier had nothing to do with the start of the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election. Nothing from the Steele Dossier was used to support any of the findings of the Meuller report. The only thing it was used for was to get a FISA warrant against Carter Paige which produced zero evidence used to support any of the findings in Meullers report.
And it does nothing to explain why the Trump campaign lied their asses off about the Trump Tower meeting until they were forced to admitt they were lying. How did Hillary force them to lie? And what about the six Trump associates who either admitted to or were convicted of lying to investigators during the investigation? How did Hillary control all these people who were close to Trump? And obviously you have forgotten why Trump fired Jim Comey.
Here is what really happened. The Internet Research Agency (IRA), based in Saint Petersburg, Russia and described as a troll farm, created thousands of social media accounts that purported to be Americans supporting radical political groups and planned or promoted events in support of Trump and against Clinton. They reached millions of social media users between 2013 and 2017. Fabricated articles and disinformation were spread from Russian government-controlled media, and promoted on social media. Additionally, computer hackers affiliated with the Russian military intelligence service (GRU) infiltrated information systems of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), and Clinton campaign officials, notably chairman John Podesta, and publicly released stolen files and emails through DCLeaks, Guccifer 2.0 and WikiLeaks during the election campaign.
So how the hell does that point to Hillary colluding with the Russians. Please provide ONE legitimate piece of evidence that shows that the Russians did anything to help Hillary. That claim is preposterous.
The original House version: 290–130 (69–31%)[1] Cloture in the Senate: 71–29 The Senate version: 73–27 The Senate version, as voted on by the House: 289–126 (70–30%)
By party The original House version: Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%) Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)
Cloture in the Senate: Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%) Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House: Democratic Party: 153–91 (63–37%) Republican Party: 136–35 (80–20%)
So, for every version and in every vote, and in both chambers, Republicans voted for the bill in higher percentages than Democrats.
No one is disputing this. The "unanimous" democratic vote that was mentioned earlier was from the Southern States. All 21 votes against it by Democrats were from southern states.
After 1964 the white southerners who ha never voted Republican in a presidential election did a complete 180 and vote republican in pretty much every election after 1964. The democratic party today is much different than it was in the 1960's.
Again, this is nonsense... first of all, these stats are ridiculous. There haven't been 14 Republican presidential wins since Kennedy, so I don't know WTF you're smoking.
I have been smoking real education from people who studied history instead of talking heads on Newsmax.
These results are how the individual states voted in Presidential elections. They prove that the white Democrats flipped parties in the mid 60's.
No one is disputing this. The "unanimous" democratic vote that was mentioned earlier was from the Southern States. All 21 votes against it by Democrats were from southern states.
After 1964 the white southerners who ha never voted Republican in a presidential election did a complete 180 and vote republican in pretty much every election after 1964. The democratic party today is much different than it was in the 1960's.
There was only one southern Republican senator in 1964. All those "racist rubes" were Democrats. So, the south became Republican after 1964 because they were fed up with the racist Democrats.
There was only one southern Republican senator in 1964. All those "racist rubes" were Democrats. So, the south became Republican after 1964 because they were fed up with the racist Democrats.
I don't think you understand how an election works. An overwhelming majority of white southern voters opposed the Civil Rights Act while Northen Democrats and the Democratic President supported it. So the white southerners switched parties.
Please just read some history instead of continuing to say stuff like this. I feel embarrassed for you.
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Originally posted by fredtoast: I don't think you understand how an election works. An overwhelming majority of white southern voters opposed the Civil Rights Act while Northen Democrats and the Democratic President supported it. So the white southerners switched parties.
Please just read some history instead of continuing to say stuff like this. I feel embarrassed for you.
THEY HAVE NEW REGRESSIVE CONNED HISTORY
much less facts far more made up BS FOX approved rump ok ed
it never allows any con's to be wrong or evil they do not mind that it is not true they do not like facts anyway
It's an ugly story, but part of the headline or banner in this screen capture (from Wichita) is sensationalized.
The residence was not "filled with dead bodies". Firefighters responded to an emergency call. One person inside the residence was newly deceased—or failed to respond to the firefighters' attempts to revive,
I don't think you understand how an election works. An overwhelming majority of white southern voters opposed the Civil Rights Act while Northen Democrats and the Democratic President supported it. So the white southerners switched parties.
Please just read some history instead of continuing to say stuff like this. I feel embarrassed for you.
Nope, I explained this in great detail. It doesn't work like that. Go back and re-read my post.
You have to explain why your party was horrible, while the Republican party has always been on the correct side of history.
Again I say... you're telling me that BECAUSE the Democrats were upset that Kennedy signed into law a Republican-led Civil Rights act, that the Democrats decided to then become Republican? How in the world does this make any sense?
I also explained in great detail that people didn't SWITCH parties. Prescott Bush, always Republican, voted for the civil rights act. Al Gore Senior, always a Democrat, voted AGAINST the civil rights act. Senator Byrd... was a Democrat senator less than 10 years ago and a former KKK Grand Master. You have no explaination for these, and continue to side-step these examples.
Your narrative is one of revisionist history. Just because Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Clinton got the votes they did... does NOT mean that a state is a Republican or a Democrat state. This is your biggest fallacy. A state is Republican or Democrat when the governor and legislative branches are. Those southern states were Democrat for a long time...
Case in point, Florida didn't become COMPLETELY Republican until 2022. It had been a solidly Democrat state until the year 1998. When I moved here in 1996, everyone was a Democrat, and the KKK had their Southern Headquarters here.
Sorry... there is absolutely nothing you can say that will change any of these facts. What you are repeating is revisionist history that has no basis in fact. The idea that the party switched sides is nonsense. You'd be suggesting that FDR then was really a Republican. It's completely asinine... and I think you know this too.
Honestly though... I have to say... I'm not even sure WHY you're a Democrat except that you were probably raised that way, but damn, I would be totally embarrassed. People with histories like that... they change their names. Damn dude...
walking and talking but no idea what really happen do you mr jones ^
but full of disbelief for those who lived thru the 60's and saw the events described unfold
they will not belief wiki on the nixon southern strategy
''Under the Southern Strategy, Republicans would continue an earlier effort to make inroads in the South, Operation Dixie, by ending attempts to appeal to African American voters in the Northern states, and instead appeal to white conservative voters in the South.''
Southern strategy - Wikipedia
or Southern strategy Political Dictionary https://politicaldictionary.com › words › southern-strat... In the second half of the 20th century, the Republican party used the so-called “Southern strategy” to win the votes of white southerners.
or The Western Origins of the “Southern Strategy” New Republic https://newrepublic.com › article › western-origins-sou... Jun 29, 2020 — While there is no question that Nixon coveted the votes of conservative Southerners, he was hardly the first Republican to do so. The eventual ...
or Introduction: The Long Southern Strategy Explained Oxford University Press https://academic.oup.com › book › chapter AbstractThe GOP's Southern Strategy initiated the realignment of the South with the Republican Party by exploiting white racial anxiety about social changes ...
or GOP Apologizes for Southern Strategy San Francisco University High School https://inside.sfuhs.org › Chapter14 › southernstrat2 GOP Apologizes for Southern Strategy. Mike Allen, RNC Chief to Say It Was Wrong to Exploit Racial Conflict for Votes, Washington Post, July 14, 2005
walking and talking but no idea what really happen do you mr jones ^
but full of disbelief for those who lived thru the 60's and saw the events described unfold
they will not belief wiki on the nixon southern strategy
''Under the Southern Strategy, Republicans would continue an earlier effort to make inroads in the South, Operation Dixie, by ending attempts to appeal to African American voters in the Northern states, and instead appeal to white conservative voters in the South.''
Southern strategy - Wikipedia
or Southern strategy Political Dictionary https://politicaldictionary.com › words › southern-strat... In the second half of the 20th century, the Republican party used the so-called “Southern strategy” to win the votes of white southerners.
or The Western Origins of the “Southern Strategy” New Republic https://newrepublic.com › article › western-origins-sou... Jun 29, 2020 — While there is no question that Nixon coveted the votes of conservative Southerners, he was hardly the first Republican to do so. The eventual ...
or Introduction: The Long Southern Strategy Explained Oxford University Press https://academic.oup.com › book › chapter AbstractThe GOP's Southern Strategy initiated the realignment of the South with the Republican Party by exploiting white racial anxiety about social changes ...
or GOP Apologizes for Southern Strategy San Francisco University High School https://inside.sfuhs.org › Chapter14 › southernstrat2 GOP Apologizes for Southern Strategy. Mike Allen, RNC Chief to Say It Was Wrong to Exploit Racial Conflict for Votes, Washington Post, July 14, 2005
Blah blah blah... every president wants as many votes as they can get.
Clinton got a lot of votes from Republicans. Reagan won literally almost every state except one, because he got a ton of Democrats. Obama won because he took a lot of Republicans ... and, the one you love the most, Trump won because he got a TON of Democrats.
This does NOT mean that these states were Republican. I mean, you guys spew such nonsense... literally every single one of these states were SOLID Democrat states until the mid to late 90s.
Look at Alabama... every governor from 1874 to 1995 was a Democrat. Florida... with the exception of 2, every Governor from 1800s to 1996 was a Democrat. Mississippi... EVERY SINGLE GOVERNOR from 1876 to 1992 was a Democrat. Georgia... EVERY SINGLE GOVERNOR from 1872 until 2003 was a Democrat.
Do you need me to continue? Literally every southern state looks like this. A state is defined as being Democrat or Republican based on whether or not the state government is run or managed by a particular party. What state votes for the presidency has no bearing on whether or not a state is Republican or Democrat. Every single one of these Southern States were SOLID Democrat states until the mid to late 90s.
So please, this absolutely refutes all the nonsense you just said. Again, everything you're stating is completely revisionist history.
the rightwing con's were the southern demo's whites blacks were not allowed to vote [not by law but by custom ] the very few who were politically active were in the LIBERAL Gop racist south was very very CONSERVATIVE
LBJ NOT JFK civil rights laws upset the racist very very CONSERVATIVE south white demo's
they never stopped being very very CONSERVATIVE but did stop voting demo as those racists joined the Gop I quit as a direct result I was in the Gop and got out in 67 as every young person who was not a fascist/racist was againt both LBJ and NIXON
the rightwing con's were the southern demo's whites blacks were not allowed to vote [not by law but by custom ] the very few who were politically active were in the LIBERAL Gop racist south was very very CONSERVATIVE
LBJ NOT JFK civil rights laws upset the racist very very CONSERVATIVE south white demo's
they never stopped being very very CONSERVATIVE but did stop voting demo as those racists joined the Gop I quit as a direct result I was in the Gop and got out in 67 as every young person who was not a fascist/racist was againt both LBJ and NIXON
we supported dan gurney or a pig or pat palson
Sorry, this is totally incorrect, and I just completely disproved everything you said. The Democrat south continued to vote Democrat until the mid to late 90s. Some states moved Republican as late as the early 2000s. Kentucky is still Democrat. This is because they were always Democrat... but Republicans HAVE been moving South over the years for better opportunity. What you say tries erroneously tries to explain away fact. You're literally making up theories to try to disprove fact.
Really? I know the current governor is a Democrat, but what about the balance in Kentucky's representation in the U.S. House of Representatives, and in Kentucky's state legislature? I couldn't say (exactly) on that without looking it up, but I'm guessing that "82" knows it right off the top of his head.
"Kentucky is still Democrat..."
Really? Has anyone ever heard of Addison Mitchell McConnell III, aka "Mitch McConnell." He's been one of Kentucky's two U.S. Senators since 1985. He's a Republican and always has been. The junior U.S. Senator from Kentucky, Rand Paul, was elected to the Senate by Kentucky in 2010 and was reelected by Kentucky in 2016 and 2022. He's a Republican and always has been.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Sorry, this is totally incorrect, and I just completely disproved everything you said. The Democrat south continued to vote Democrat until the mid to late 90s. Some states moved Republican as late as the early 2000s. Kentucky is still Democrat. This is because they were always Democrat... but Republicans HAVE been moving South over the years for better opportunity. What you say tries erroneously tries to explain away fact. You're literally making up theories to try to disprove fact.
NO I am trying to explain what was happening there then
I went to all white southern schools [winters] in miami
and totally integrated Detroit schools early fall and late spring
people have LIED TO YOU i LIVED WHAT i SAID
WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS OK TO REPEAT LIES HERE ?
FOLLOW ANY OF THE LINKS I POSTED THINK THOSE ARE ''MADE UP '' ?
YOU LIKE FAR TOO MANY RUMP FANS BELIEVE LIES REPEAT THEM HERE AND DOWN RATE ME FOR POSTING TRUE LINKS AND FACTS
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Sorry, this is totally incorrect, and I just completely disproved everything you said. The Democrat south continued to vote Democrat until the mid to late 90s. Some states moved Republican as late as the early 2000s. Kentucky is still Democrat. This is because they were always Democrat... but Republicans HAVE been moving South over the years for better opportunity. What you say tries erroneously tries to explain away fact. You're literally making up theories to try to disprove fact.
I think it's fair to say that the man with the rather unimposing screen name of "82-T/A [At Work]" has long been putting forward on this forum a markedly imposing thesis that the Democratic Party, from its inception some 200 years ago in the 1820s and all the way forward to today, has always been just one small step away from the original Nazi Party, in terms of Depravity.
Is it fair for "82" to say that "Kentucky is still Democrat"..?
I'm looking for some "buy in" from other forum members and their unique personal perspectives.
I am flummoxed by the assertion that "Kentucky is still Democrat." I don't understand where that assertion comes from, or how it is "based".
Does anyone else feel the same way? And if so, what are the implications (are there any) in terms of how they credit or evaluate the Grand Theory of Democratic Party Depravity as has been put before this forum by the generally estimable "82-T/A [At Work]"..?
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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Wanted to make you aware that this quote came from a Democrat.
And the third sentence there is something that literally only Democrats do. All the church firebombings have been by either ANTIFA, BLM, or Democrats doing false-flag attacks (every single one). The lynching is being done by Democrats (see KKK), and the children killing is pretty much also all Democrats (see abortion, suicides / mental illness, etc.).
Do we need to go over this again? You cannot change history, and you certainly can't fake it... I'm surprised the party still exists... quite honestly. Juneteenth holiday is literally celebrating the day that the Republicans freed the black slaves from the Democrats.
ok I will rewrite this with CORRECT LABELS
Wanted to make you aware that this quote came from a -[D] WHITE SOUTHERN RACIST if still alive a MAGA TODAY
And the third sentence there is something that literally only [D] WHITE SOUTHERN RACIST do. All the church firebombings have been by either ANTIFA, BLM, or [D] WHITE SOUTHERN RACIST doing false-flag attacks (every single one). The lynching is being done by [D] WHITE SOUTHERN RACIST (see KKK), and the children killing is pretty much also all [D] WHITE SOUTHERN RACIST (see abortion, suicides / mental illness, etc.).
Do we need to go over this again? You cannot change history, and you certainly can't fake it... I'm surprised the party still exists... quite honestly. Juneteenth holiday is literally celebrating the day that the NORTHERN LIBERALS freed the black slaves from the [D]WHITE SOUTHERN RACIST
AND YOU FORGOT WHO IS THE WHITE SOUTHERN RACIST TODAY the rump fans in the Gop THEY DID NOT GO AWAY THEY DID SWAP PARTYS THEY ARE WHITE SOUTHERN RACIST WHO SUPPORT THE Gop TODAY
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