Originally posted by fredtoast: Are "leftist" the ones trying to ban the teaching of Critical Race Theory?
No. They are the ones who insist that it be taught. Damn their parents.
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Originally posted by fredtoast: Are "leftists" the ones boycotting stores that say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas"?
No. They are the ones who boycott stores which do say Merry Christmas.
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Originally posted by fredtoast: Are 'leftists" the ones who wanted Colin Kaepernick fired from his job for making a peaceful political protest?
You are in over your head. Colin Kaepernick got fired because he hurt sales. Do you think only conservatives watch Football ?
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Originally posted by fredtoast: Is it a "leftist" governor in Florida who is trying to destroy a business just because it made political statements he did not agree with?
No. You can pretend to be who you want to be. He is not the one trying to destroy Chick-fil-A.
"Despite all the controversy surrounding Kaepernick because of the "take a knee" protests he started in 2016, Nike has shown no signs of reneging on the endorsement deal, which has been good for the company. Their online sales were up 31 percent over the previous year according to one estimate,"
According to a recent Harris poll, Nike’s reputation with the general public has actually strengthened over the past two years, and there’s been renewed interest in Nike’s commercials featuring brand ambassador quarterback Colin Kaepernick. Those first ran in September of 2018.
“That advertisement was a home run even the year it ran,” said Daniel Kaplan, reporter at The Athletic. He said despite some Americans vowing to boycott the brand, that didn’t affect Nike’s numbers.
“Sales picked up for Nike after that. And its stock price has done better than its peers in the two years since,” Kaplan said.
Nike stock has TRIPLED in value since they used Kaepernick as their spokes person.
No. They are the ones who insist that it be taught. Damn their parents.
If parents want to deny education to their children then they are free to homeschool them.
I guess you believe that the children should be taught whatever religious beliefs the parents want in public schools also, right? You just do not understand how this works. Should parents who believe in "flat earth" also get that taught in public schools?
Originally posted by fredtoast: Because there is no "right" to be an mean-spirited jerk.
Yes, there is.
Because if the "mean-spirited jerk" has no right to personality, then neither does sub-human woke leftist commie SJW. How's that for "equal", comrade ?
Your score is still zero.
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A person who claims he has known "dozens" of transgender people DOES NOT EVEN KNOW WHAT THE TERM "TRANSGENDER" MEANS!
What an epic post.
I will accept this post as an acknowledgement that you've lost the argument. While I don't view this as a game with which to score points, I do view it with a goal of educating you and others. Your failed response here is as obvious to me as it is to you.
I believe you are well-intentioned, and view me (erroneously) as probably the most evil person in the world... or likely supporting of. What you need to understand is that you're being manipulated to support something that is largely only hurting people. You need to open your eyes, and recognize that much of what you help push, actually creates more hate and hurt among a lot of people. You're literally perpetuating a narrative from a very successful maligned influence campaign by our foreign adversaries.
Yes, there are people who suffer from gender dysphoria. There are also a lot of people who suffer from many other mental illnesses that are not being properly cared for. Convincing large swaths of our populations that they're transgender for the profit, only hurts society as a whole. We should be asking, why has mental illness exploded over the past decade? These are the questions you should be asking.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: We should be asking, why has mental illness exploded over the past decade? These are the questions you should be asking.
Because aberrant behavior is tolerated, encouraged and celebrated. If someone is ready to jump off a bridge, we don't say "Do it, you have a right, you'll be an inspiration." We should provide guidance. We are now the mob in the street who, upon seeing a guy standing on a ledge, shouts "Jump!"
Originally posted by rinselberg: Recorded as male at birth, identifies as male and gay... or recorded as female at birth, identifies as female and gay... these are not transgender. They are cisgender.
Recorded at birth, .? Who identifies them ?. The Doctor who has no way of knowing what they identify as ?
The Doctor who has no way of knowing what they identify as ?
Nobody gives a sheet what they "identify" as....You can identify a cup as a Cadillac all you want, you will learn different as soon as you try to drive it (and 2 girls show up ).
Originally posted by fredtoast: Maybe you should educate yourself before entering a debate with me.
Why would I do that ?. You don't debate. You argue emotions.
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Originally posted by fredtoast: "Despite all the controversy surrounding Kaepernick because of the "take a knee" protests he started in 2016, Nike has shown no signs of reneging on the endorsement deal, which has been good for the company. Their online sales were up 31 percent over the previous year according to one estimate,"
Did you read what I posted ? Did I say Nike fired him ?.
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We should be asking, why has mental illness exploded over the past decade? These are the questions you should be asking.
Everyone knows why.
There has always been a larger portion of the population who were LGBTQ but were afraid to admit it because people called them "sexual deviants", bet them up, and sometimes killed them.
same thing with homosexuality. If you ask an old person they will tell you that they did not know ANY homosexuals back in the '60's or '70's, but they existed. They just had to stay in the closet to remain safe.
What cracks me up even more is that you are claiming that if someone told you that you were gay when you were young then you would have suddenly became homosexual and started beening attracted to men.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: I will accept this post as an acknowledgement that you've lost the argument. .
How can you claim victory when I just proved that you do not even know what you are talking about. You claim to know dozens of "trans" people, but you don't even know what the term "trans" means.
It is like hearing a person brag about being from 'Frisco, when no one from San Francisco would ever use the term "Frisco".
You are just making all of this up. You are claiming a near 100% suicide rate for every transgender person who had surgery. That is easily proven to be false.
There has always been a larger portion of the population who were LGBTQ but were afraid to admit it because people called them "sexual deviants", bet them up, and sometimes killed them.
same thing with homosexuality. If you ask an old person they will tell you that they did not know ANY homosexuals back in the '60's or '70's, but they existed. They just had to stay in the closet to remain safe.
So, I'm from Miami. Being gay has never been an issue. It's never something I've particularly cared about, nor have any of my friends. On the other hand, I've lived all over the country, and the most bigoted places I've visited have been Democrat-majority states. For example, when I moved to Maryland... there was a person who was openly gay in the office, and everyone acted like this was shocking. This was in 2011. Having come from South Florida, this was not something I even thought about. I know you don't live in Tennessee, but you likely live in a liberal state. My guess is that liberal states tend to have a greater level of discrimination... and this is why it becomes more of an issue for people living in these states.
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Originally posted by fredtoast: What cracks me up even more is that you are claiming that if someone told you that you were gay when you were young then you would have suddenly became homosexual and started beening attracted to men.
Strawman, absolutely no one said this. We're not talking about people who are homosexual and / or gay. We're talking about people who identify as "other" ... that is, people who fall under the transgender group. Anyone other than LGB and hetero.
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Originally posted by fredtoast: How can you claim victory when I just proved that you do not even know what you are talking about. You claim to know dozens of "trans" people, but you don't even know what the term "trans" means.
It is like hearing a person brag about being from 'Frisco, when no one from San Francisco would ever use the term "Frisco".
I'm not from San Francisco... and not sure why you'd even bring that up. I've been there a few times, never heard anyone call it Frisco inside or outside of San Francisco.
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Originally posted by fredtoast: You are just making all of this up.
Sorry Fred... I actually provided multiple links, some even from Government websites and very respected institutions. You've provided nothing but opinion.
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Originally posted by fredtoast: You are claiming a near 100% suicide rate for every transgender person who had surgery. That is easily proven to be false.
I'm not claiming this at all. But there are several respected studies that make the claim that the suicide rate goes up significantly within a year after surgery. You can make your own decision about WHY this happens... but this is what it is. Most of the studies arguing this are not actually studies but opinion pieces, or those funded by hospitals that benefit financially from performing these surgeries.
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Originally posted by fredtoast:
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Don't hold back... the more you freak out, the more I realize that my truth was heard, even if painful.
I'm not from San Francisco... and not sure why you'd even bring that up. I've been there a few times, never heard anyone call it Frisco inside or outside of San Francisco.
You will see "Frisco" on a red and white bottom rocker.
I guess the non-Hispanics were calling it Frisco. As a half-Hispanic, and a Catholic... I'm more than happy to call San Francisco by it's Catholic-given name, "Saint Francis."
Originally posted by fredtoast: Who are "we" and what are you able to exclude people from? What do you think you control?
I can exclude any people from what I want to.
Sometimes, I think I see flashes of brilliance from you. Later you prove how delusional I am, about you.
What do you think I have no control of ?
I was advertising for help. 100 people applied. True to the percentage of different creeds of Americans. Some were black. Some were hispanic. Some were woman. A very small percentage were LBGTQXYZ+126. I have control to hire only one.
Whern I was out prowling for sex, LBGTQXYZ+126 were excluded all the time. Yes, I discriminated.
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Cliff, I am thinking "Fred-Toasted-Brain" might be is trolling us just to get a reaction...
Yep, anybody/everybody posting here who dares to stand apart from the far right are "trolling". I've seen that BS accusation so many times in O/T, and now P&R.
Yep, anybody/everybody posting here who dares to stand apart from the far right are "trolling". I've seen that BS accusation so many times in O/T, and now P&R.
Patrick...you can stand where you want. It's up to you..100%. So can we.
What you cant do..is pass laws/mandates/orders to restrict OUR rights....and we are gonna get royally pizzed off when ya'all try to push us around and cancel-culture us.
Left aint running the show...
Freedom means freedom. It means you (or the rest) have zero power or authority in another mans life choices. YOUR choices are accept or reject, exactly the same as his.....and it's that whole "right to reject" thing thats becoming a huge problem.
Now, when it comes to fighting with these Americans about politics you and I gotta be nice to them....dont think they grew up in the same fist fights hockey games we did in Canada.
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Yep, anybody/everybody posting here who dares to stand apart from the far right are "trolling". I've seen that BS accusation so many times in O/T, and now P&R.
Originally posted by fredtoast: This is starting to get a little scary.
What do think should be done to homosexuals to prove that they will not be tolerated?
Nothing on our part...
It's 100% on them.....to accept "no" for an answer...
Walk into any <ahhemm>..."Bar" and try to be as pushy demanding an azzhole as the pride are being, and see how fast the "gentlemen with the patches" throw you trough a door (or wall), and they wont bother opening it first. Or the screen door in front of it.
Maybe I got old, creaky, cranky and dont drink in bars anymore...., I still approve of the way "pests" are dealt with.
They were asked nicely to go away. They refused. Now it's time for "not-so-nicely"
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It's 100% on them.....to accept "no" for an answer...
Walk into any <ahhemm>..."Bar" and try to be as pushy demanding an azzhole as the pride are being, and see how fast the "gentlemen with the patches" throw you trough a door (or wall), and they wont bother opening it first. Or the screen door in front of it.
Maybe I got old, creaky, cranky and dont drink in bars anymore...., I still approve of the way "pests" are dealt with.
They were asked nicely to go away. They refused. Now it's time for "not-so-nicely"
You've been singing that same tune (saying that same thing) for the last umpteen years, and you're not any closer to having a "Woke Free" world for yourself than you were umpteen years ago.
You can keep your home's outer doors shut and not let the "Woke" inside of your home, but beyond that..?
You can enjoy the spectacle of Bud Light losing substantial market share, and this Pride fiasco at the Talladega Raceway, but those are just small consolation prizes for you. Little tidbits of schadenfreude for you to savor—not a substantial "meal".
You're not going to see the end of Woke. Not in your current lifetime. Maybe if you're reincarnated and live 100 more lives...
Sunglasses, because I'm blinded by the intensity of this insight.
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Bud Light Sales Drop 30 Percent Compared to Same Week Last Year
Newsweek: Bud Light off-premise sales have continued to see sustained contractions compared to the same time last year, as the beer brand suffers its worst decline in year-on-year volumes since its brief partnership with transgender influencer Dylan Mulvaney brought on calls for boycott. The latest tracking figures by Nielsen IQ show that in the week ending June 10, Bud Light sales volume—the number of units of beer sold—was 30.3 percent lower than in the same week in 2022, the largest such drop since the week ending April 1 (Newsweek).
Newsmax: Anheuser-Busch, parent company of Bud Light, was accused of alienating its customer base with its partnership with Mulvaney. The beer company, fighting to recover from the backlash, told its customers, “We hear you.” But in a statement posted on the company website, Brendan Whitworth, Anheuser-Busch’s CEO, offered no apology for the controversy (Newsmax).
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Of course, as I expected... the main stream media has completely dropped this. I think they realized that by continuing the story, they were only helping to spread the news... which made it worse for Bud Light. Now the only sites carrying it are conservative-specific sites... but 30.3% drop is enormous... and it shows that it's still getting worse, and not better. It's now been two solid months of decline.
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Some things are fragile, Bud light is an ok beer. Its not going to change your life or make you a better person. Its beer. Its a simple choice that you get comfortable with. Make a change to another brand and its just as easy to get comfortable and why switch back? So while some people may still be on the boycott for others I'm sure its just a beer and just as easy to order a Coors Light or what ever else is on tap.
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.? Who identifies them ?. The Doctor who has no way of knowing what they identify as ?
I've seen that BS accusation so many times in O/T, and now P&R. 
