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3800 Turbo Build by nosrac
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3" Turbo Outlet...3" Straight Through Turbine Exhaust...3" Resenator Tip

Not your ordinary straight through muffler....




I think that works on the same technology as the tornado air intake insert.

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I think that works on the same technology as the tornado air intake insert.




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I'd like to "hear"a comparison test.. Or what it actually sounds like. -Jason
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I'd like to "hear"a comparison test.. Or what it actually sounds like. -Jason


I was thinking the same thing.
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While your builder is making the exhaust you could have him make you a racing dump that you could easily clamp onto the turbo for track days or when you want that loud rumble on a cruise or something. Just some 3" of 4" diameter pipe that goes down about 4" off the ground. I bet you would notice a difference.

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Custom invisible drain tube?
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Looking good man, and moving along nicely. For a non Fiero based shop, it looks like they're doing well. You wanted it fast and decent quality, so I guess you had to sacrafice price then. I'd like to see it in person eventually. Everyone up at the Carlisle show will get to see mine before I do lol.
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Custom invisible drain tube?


Need to measurements for custom length. How did u route yours?
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Looking good man, and moving along nicely. For a non Fiero based shop, it looks like they're doing well. You wanted it fast and decent quality, so I guess you had to sacrafice price then. I'd like to see it in person eventually. Everyone up at the Carlisle show will get to see mine before I do lol.


I have been taking my cars to this shop since 1994. I know the owner well and it's NOT too expensive.
He has been doing most of the maintence on the Fiero since the 3800 Swap including the Lebaron brake swap and completely upgraded suspension (poly, ball joints, coil overs).
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Need to measurements for custom length. How did u route yours?


under the diff.

It wont be ideal looking, it will "U" a bit.
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under the diff.

It wont be ideal looking, it will "U" a bit.


Can't see it down there anyway. I assume no smoking and backed up oil issues.
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no problems yet.
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Just waiting to hit the lottery so I can steal all the ideas I see here and have the baddest Fiero on the block. Can't wait to see how this turns out and if I ever make it to Texas I'll make it a point to see this bad boy run.
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I doubt the lottery is required here... There is not much more than $1000-$2000 that has to go into a turbo setup.. Mostly depends on how much work you do for yourself.
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Nosrac,
Hey man that is looking pretty sharp. It also looks like you are getting close to being able to stick it back in your hotrod soon. Gonna be pretty interesting to see how this baby runs for you. Good luck with it and I hope to be building something similar(but hopefully cheaper) real soon. peace

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When my F23 breaks, I am gonna throw the 4T65HD in there. I dont wanna, but something tells me a slushbox is in my future!


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When my F23 breaks, I am gonna throw the 4T65HD in there. I dont wanna, but something tells me a slushbox is in my future!



Good thing is the 65E isn't a slush box so you will not be disappointed with it....Can be tuned to **** to your liking...
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I doubt the lottery is required here... There is not much more than $1000-$2000 that has to go into a turbo setup.. Mostly depends on how much work you do for yourself.


I know as far as the parts the lottery isnt required but seeing as a mechanic I am not, labor is were my wallet will have to assume the position. I'm actually considering going to school for automotive just so i can do my own work.
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No Updates !
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No Updates !


you realize... that sentence in and of itself is an update..., right?....

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Not much to report as they did NOT work on my car last week and he was out sick today.

However, I don't have a trunk anymore...as the installer got buck wild with the sawzall

When I say NO trunk I mean competely gone as in now THEY need to weld in a support brace!

Not sure why they didn't just cut the Smiley face portion from under the trunk light.

I'm really not happy about that as I though the turbo would fit under the 1/2 tunk shelf without issue.
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Not much to report as they did NOT work on my car last week and he was out sick today.

However, I don't have a trunk anymore...as the installer got buck wild with the sawzall

When I say NO trunk I mean competely gone as in now THEY need to weld in a support brace!

Not sure why they didn't just cut the Smiley face portion from under the trunk light.


I'm really not happy about that as I though the turbo would fit under the 1/2 tunk shelf without issue.


Lolwut? Guess you should have showed them some pictures of mine.

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Tell us more about that cool lookin' green toque strut! did you make that ? If that is what it takes to go fast, I guess I need two!!

j/k get it on the road!!

P.S. I don't like the way your bung hole is looking at me! LOL

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Not much to report as they did NOT work on my car last week and he was out sick today.

However, I don't have a trunk anymore...as the installer got buck wild with the sawzall

When I say NO trunk I mean competely gone as in now THEY need to weld in a support brace!

Not sure why they didn't just cut the Smiley face portion from under the trunk light.

I'm really not happy about that as I though the turbo would fit under the 1/2 tunk shelf without issue.


DAMN! That sucs, been nice to have a little storage. Before I got my car someone did it to my front. I don't have any headlight mounts, I just bought some of doublec's to fix that issue once and for all. Anyway good looking build, and minus the trunk u should be very happy.
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Looking good. I like the oil drain.

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Eww, LT1 maf? really? Shooting for a insane 13psi with that sucker now?
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How did u route yours?


 
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under the diff.

It wont be ideal looking, it will "U" a bit.


 
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Looking good. I like the oil drain.



I like the Oil return too, I like it alot! and I don't care what Nobody says DH is all right with me....LOL
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Eww, LT1 maf? really? Shooting for a insane 13psi with that sucker now?


How much PSI do you think I can get before I grenade the trans?

If that 13 PSI is a 10.8...then...I'm good.

I will get the Fixed Freq or Mini AFC after I get it running good as I think 10.5 should be around 18 psi.

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Question, will cutting the trunk out completely cause any stability issues? Most people I've seen have left the cross-member (not sure what it's called).
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Question, will cutting the trunk out completely cause any stability issues? Most people I've seen have left the cross-member (not sure what it's called).


Yep, I need some kind of tower brace.
The installer has something in mind as in bolting the original trunk strut brace back in and making it removable.
I plan on getting the Fiero Store strut tower brace for added strength. Hopefuly, the 84-87 will work with my Dickman decklit strut.

I hate that he cut the trunk like that as it was NOT needed, IMO.
He just got too happy with the sawzall.
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Yep, I need some kind of tower brace.
The installer has something in mind as in bolting the original trunk strut brace back in and making it removable.
I plan on getting the Fiero Store strut tower brace for added strength. Hopefuly, the 84-87 will work with my Dickman decklit strut.

I hate that he cut the trunk like that as it was NOT needed, IMO.
He just got too happy with the sawzall.


Damn, sorry man. I wasn't too happy with my trunk being cut. I would have been even less thrilled if the entire thing had been cut out. I'm sure there are work arounds. It's looking pretty good otherwise.
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13.5 psi was 10.8 for me, 18 was 10.30. Your 60' and spool are going to be the determining factors in ET, but should get to 130 mph around 15 psi.

I run what I believe is an LT1/ early LS1 MAF, no translator, it might be broken, or the way I have it oriented in the air stream, but it reads repeatably and smoothly all the way to the 512 g/s PCM limit. Your results may vary lol.

Your wastegate return is going to cause turbulence at the turbine exit, may or may not create issues. I would run it in at an angle, or better yet dump to atmosphere.

Looking good, can't wait to see some results!

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