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3800 Turbo Build by nosrac
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Sure, it will look clean when nothing is connected. No belt, shift cables, plug wires, engine mount, breather, etc. Even before all that, Nosrac's still looks cleaner.



Opinion, I disagree. I prefer the look of the one Whodeanie posted. Looks more serious to me, and that custom manifold is fantastic.

I'd post pics of mine but that silly old Eaton would ruin the shot for most in this thread, Lol

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Opinion, I disagree. I prefer the look of the one Whodeanie posted. Looks more serious to me, and that custom manifold is fantastic.

I'd post pics of mine but that silly old Eaton would ruin the shot for most in this thread, Lol



I believe thats a vote for me! Na nah Na na!

You have been quiet bro. Whats going on? Updates man!
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Progress




I may have missed it, what is the expansion tank from (upper left corner)? I bet it makes burping the coolant system super easy. Or, is it for the w2a system?

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AFC got hooked up yesterday, worked fine with the LS1 aluminum maf, tuned it out in about 4 pulls on the back roads. Heading to the track on Saturday. Have to see if I can't run a single digit . When's yours going to see some track time Nosrac?

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AFC got hooked up yesterday, worked fine with the LS1 aluminum maf, tuned it out in about 4 pulls on the back roads. Heading to the track on Saturday. Have to see if I can't run a single digit . When's yours going to see some track time Nosrac?


Nice man! I hope all goes well for you, I really do! GOOD LUCK! But don't think I am gonna be handing over my $1 to you! No way, the prize $$ is all mine!
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I may have missed it, what is the expansion tank from (upper left corner)? I bet it makes burping the coolant system super easy. Or, is it for the w2a system?



The Corvette Surge tank is for my A/W intercooler. It is self burping and looks good too.
I've seen others have used it with cooling system and it's just something else I copied from the creative people on the forum.
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Originally posted by LFiero67:

AFC got hooked up yesterday, worked fine with the LS1 aluminum maf, tuned it out in about 4 pulls on the back roads. Heading to the track on Saturday. Have to see if I can't run a single digit . When's yours going to see some track time Nosrac?


I want to enjoy it for a while before I grenade my trans...LOL
I may go when it cools off some but still need to get used t the turbo and learn how to tune this thing.
Did you used a fixed freq or mini AFC?
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Mini afc set to 90%.
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I was trying to figure out why I couldn't get into boost....Duhh

I put the Boost controller on backwards in this pic so I had to re-mounted like the installer had it originally...LOL

Also, I blew the blue intake coupler off when the boost controller was backwards and couldn't get that sucker back on, so I had to cut it off and order another one.


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Originally posted by LFiero67:

Mini afc set to 90%.


I posted on Club GP how to properly tune the MAF using the mini AFC, That is if you need any help.

Good luck on your run this Sat. How much boost u going 2 run?
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18 again, then probably 21, and 23 if necessary lol. Not sure how far I will go. Want a nine, but have a few targets in mind as well.
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Pump gas is one hell of a restriction...
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Moved to my new shop yesterday, shes back on 4 wheels. Had to push it there since i still gotta make all connections (fuel, coolant, wiring, etc), but its at least some progress...

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Moved to my new shop yesterday, shes back on 4 wheels. Had to push it there since i still gotta make all connections (fuel, coolant, wiring, etc), but its at least some progress...




Get it done man...we need more 3800 Turbo videos hehehe.. Is that car located in NC or is it up north now? Peace

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Living down in NC now....
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I believe thats a vote for me! Na nah Na na!

You have been quiet bro. Whats going on? Updates man!


I've been alright. Bought my 3800sc, put the other 85 away to prep for the turbo 3500 build.

Just no internet at my place right now so updates are slow.

Still kickin though!
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Jncomutt...you have a shop? doing what?
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race anyone yet?

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race anyone yet?



Me?....Nope, I think I F'ed up my wheel bearings. I know I should have got my alignment before I brought it home.
There was always a high pitched metal dragging sound when the car is moving and I thought it was the vapor canister rattling around or my unattached emergency brake line rubbing against something.
Well, I removed the canister, zip tied the brake line and took it for a spin around the block.
I was still hearing the sound but proceeded to the highway to see if it went away at higher speeds, then I heard a loud moaning dinosaur sound...WTF...( sounded like Godzilla got kicked in the balls)
Luckily, I got the car back to my garage and started some internet research and I ASSUME it's my wheel bearing.
I did get them replaced when I got the Lebaron brake swap but I'm not sure of the quality of the Autozone parts.
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After a drive put your hand on it and see if its warmer than the other side.

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Backing plates dragging? Always have to bend mine back after separating the ball joints.
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Backing plates dragging? Always have to bend mine back after separating the ball joints.


What are backing plates...lol?

Brake Plates/Shields???
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Dust shield I guess? Behind brake rotor. Bottom rubs on rotor, metallic sound when it does.
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Dust shield I guess? Behind brake rotor. Bottom rubs on rotor, metallic sound when it does.


Thx, I'll check that out but I think they were removed because they didn't fit with the larger 11.25 rotors. Either that or they were cut/bent to fit. Either way I'll check.

The Loud azz random trumpet sound is what makes me think it is the bearing. Maybe the bearing is causing it to run om the shield???

Anyway got to get this issue fixed before I can do anything fast and fun.
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Try turning left and then right (at a speed the noise is most noticeable)... see if the noise gets worse or better. If so, most likely a wheel bearing.
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Try turning left and then right (at a speed the noise is most noticeable)... see if the noise gets worse or better. If so, most likely a wheel bearing.


There's always the option of checking for play with the car jacked up. Grab ten and 2 and try to wiggle the wheel a little bit. Could look for that dust shield at the same time.
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Bump for some video footage!
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Updates? You've gone quiet there buddy.
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I was on vacation last week so nothing was done to the car.
I still need to get that dragging sound fixed whatever it is and it probably will be a few weeks before I can get to it.
The turbo build was draining enough so I need to take a break from the drama that is my Fiero.
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LOL I know the feeling. I'm supposed to get the "its running call" today. I am not holding my breath. Heard that one too many times.
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this car is the back order king! every time we try to get something for it, it is eather backordered or no longer made so we have had to wait or figure out how to make it ourselves.
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uuuhhhh....done yet?

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uuuhhhh....done yet?




The Turbo build has been done. Now finding/fixing the grinding issue that is another story.
She may be down for the winter and emerge early next spring painted, tuned, running 10's, and beating down ZR1's.
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Ok, So I felt the need for speed...... and decided to start the car up and just sit in it...LOL My grinding issue is still not resolved so I know I shouldn't drive it anywhere.

So I say what the hell it won't hurt to back it out and drive it in the neighborhood around the block about 100meters @ 10mph or so.

The grinding is soo terrible my neighbors start to stare @ me in a bad way like WTF.

So I get back home embarrassed and jack the car up. spin the wheel and lookie what I find in the wheel space between the brake shield and rotor.




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Nice find.. are your issues now solved?
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Nice find.. are your issues now solved?


Yes,.....took the car for another spin and NO grinding thank Gawd.
So onto more tuning. I changed more of my tuning settings from the SC tables to NA tables and moved a lot of values back to their stock settings.

I also upped the timing a Whole Hella lot and put back the aggressive transmission settings and that has helped tremendously.
It now drives much better off boost and comes into boost a hella lot quicker.
It doesn't feel like a 2.8 auto when it's off boost any more but when the boost comes in though it is NOTHING like the old M90 SC...NO WHINE and the pull gets harder.

My SC'ed combo would only pull hard till the end of 1st and then start to drop off as the RPM and the gears got larger.
Compared to my Butt acceleration Dyno I would start run away from my old setup in the middle of second gear but would be behind throughout first.
Since I don't have DR's I could never launch like a maniac as in ~1.5 60' but my transmission didn't want me to anyway.
I'm pretty sure I could have cracked off a ~1.5 60' when I was SC'ed and ran 11.7 with DR's because I had to baby it off the line not to spin but still managed a 1.76 60'

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It now drives much better off boost and comes into boost a hella lot quicker.


Technically it comes into boost slower, but you may not notice it as much.
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What did those bolts go to? The wheel bearing?
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Let it RIP!

They look like the same bolts in my transmission mount.
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What did those bolts go to? The wheel bearing?


To nothing as far as I can tell. Just some random bolts that crept in the space.
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