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87 Coupe project by 30+mpg
Started on: 06-17-2005 06:31 PM
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Report this Post11-14-2005 08:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 30+mpgClick Here to Email 30+mpgSend a Private Message to 30+mpgEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Old muffler.

Had a new muffler installed.

Finally got both rear side makers in place screwed firmly to correct backing plates.

Next, install a waiting pair of correct rear fender liners.

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Put newly sewn upholstery on driver's seatback.

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A question for you.

The rear fascia in an earlier post has the cutout on the passenger
side for the exhaust tip.

Is that a stock fascia or was it altered for the tips?

I've not seen a stock 87/88 coupe fascia with dual exhaust
cutouts. I have an 87 coupe with a 4.9 and true duals. I haven't
altered the fascia yet.

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OldBob:...The rear fascia in an earlier post has the cutout on the passenger
side for the exhaust tip. Is that a stock fascia or was it altered for the tips.

Altered by former owner, probably after a previous one had put the $130 cash under the trunk liner.

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Replaced 194 bulb in RF side marker. Front post portion was broken loose from the rest of the side marker. Repaired it using Plastic Cement on the plastic edges that fit together and hot melt glue on the back & around the post as a reinforcement.

Marker was broken when a former owner experienced slight front end damage.

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Originally posted by Puck:

Sorry i have had those fenders for soooo long i was for sure they would fit that year model style of car.....car is looking sweet though that is alot of work put into it.


Not only did the driver's side NOT fit, check out the passenger's side you sold me.

Time to email Tracy in Texas to see if he has the right side liner.

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good job man. keep up the good work.
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Got these from GM parts direct:

A pair of dew wipes.
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Got this on ebay.

A door roller arm spring compressor. Looks like this tool could also be used on those pesky parking brake return springs on the rear calipers of any stock Fiero brakes.
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Got the driver's side on. Took longer due to nut frozen on mirror stud. Once the stud was out, a vise, Kroil and a couple of nuts got things freed up.
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Passenger's side dew strip installed. Easier the 2nd time around.
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Checked temp sender for correct resistance at temperatures. Getting temp gauge to match scan tool readings.

Meanwhile, here's some engine photo updates:



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Bought an 1988 Park Ave. Sevice Manual on ebay. $17 + shippping.

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Ebay item,

paid for on Nov12. Still waiting for the package.
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Another ebay item, $2 + shipping.

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Rear cutout for the right exhaust was getting a little droopy.

Compare to the stock left cutout.

So I decided to reinforce it using coat hanger wire & hot melt.



Sealed in hot glue. Nice & strong.

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Decided to wire the back-up lights. The dark blue wire from the ignition switched power to the gear switch on the transmission and the light green wire to the lights were both cut about 6" from the connector on the transmission. Not cut in two but cut and removed! So I had to run 2 new wires.

"Slowly it rises from the heap pile."

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Engine had developed a rattle. Using a stethoscope, the noise seem to be coming from the water pump. When the serpentine belt was removed, the pump pulley edge could be moved toward and back from the timing cover a little over a 1/4".

Bought a remanufactured pump. The old pump had a nice cast impeller w/ long vanes. Both the brand new and the reman. pumps had impellers that had been cut and bent from sheet metal. Short vanes. Will this make any difference in flow rates?

Anyway, things are bolted back together again.

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BTW This car is actually driven (mostly by my wife) 3 to 4 days a week in town and country.

This is not some zero mile, garage anchored, money pit that can never be driven enough to equal the time spent working on it.

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Modded the huge cable support bracket.

Cleaned accelerator linkage.

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Outstanding work on your project!!

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OldBob the rear facia on the 88 base coupe has both exhaust cutouts. 30+ mpg was that car from Kalamzoo? What did you do for the seat repair in the early stage? I need to do something to my seats, but keep the costs down for now.

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Actually, the guy I bought it from on ebay drove it down from Grand Rapids.

Do you know this car?

BTW if you are after the cash, it's already been reinvested in the car.

I used the same seat cover that I had used on my 30+mpg 86 2M4 when I reupholstered it. I used some old blue denim material to fab a pair of hollow runners sewn to the seams for the 2 vertical rods to be inserted into to pull the fabric down against the foam of the seatback.

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Wired a resistor between Ignition switched power & the "Hot light" output on the ECM to fix the Code 26 problem.
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Passenger's side mirror: housing bent & cracked, mirror broken.
Replaced it with a $2 ebay mirror w/o taking the door apart.

Used a 10mm ratcheting box/open end wrench and a pencil magnet.

If you don't have a set of ratcheting box wrenches and you work on your car, you should get a set.

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The 3800 has 2 coolant temp senders. One for the ECM & one for the gauge. Whoever did the swap put in the sender for the Fiero in place of the gauge sender.

Only problem is the 2 wire Fiero unit has 3/8" threads and the hole for it in the manifold is 1/8"-27.
So they put in a 1/8" thread pipe screwed into a 1/8" to 3/8" adapter screwed into a 3/8" connector , into which, was screwed the Fiero sender. Basically, this setup screwed the gauge reading.

So I bought the correct single wire sender & wired it. Then I took the wire for the "HOT" light and wired it into the Hot light input wire on the ECM.
Now the probe end of the sender is bathed in flowing coolant. Things are good!

Slowly, it rises from the heap.

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Installed the new bushings & pins on the driver's door hinges. Now, instead of having to slam the door, one merely pushes it to close the door.

BTW the spring compressor tool pictured a few posts above really makes the door roller lever spring a non-problem.

Slowly, it rises from the heap.

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Went for a drive this afternoon. According to my Scan Tool, at 68 mph w/ the TCC locked, the engine is loafing at 1752 rpm!

That works out to almost 40 mph/1000 rpm. Stock engine is rated for 165hp at 5200 rpm. 5200 is not gonna happen in 4th gear even w/ the TCC unlocked!

Need to calibrate the speedo w/ timed mile marker readings. It might be a little slow w/ the 235/60-15's out back.

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Mile maker speedo calibration works out to 54 seconds at 66 mph. Calculations yield 66.667mph.

Close enough. When I wired Ryan's speedo adapter in, I used (2) 10K resistors in series instead of a 22K one. That worked for the 235/60-15's.

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Replaced the airbox that had a busted out baffle and no elbow hose (it just vented onto the tranny) with one that had the baffle intact. At least it was till I drilled (6) .2" dia holes in the upper part of the baffle. It also has the rubber elbow so now the air is at least directed to the bottom of the Park Ave air filter.

I'd really like to replace the Park Ave box w/ the V6 cannister air filter setup. Anyone have a spare? I need the base mount, the can & lid.

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Worked on the wiring.

The output wire from the alternator had a ring terminal on the end and was bolted directly to the battery. Spliced into this wire was another one, 14 ga. The insulation had been removed to bare a section of the alternator cable about half an inch long. The 14 ga wire was wrapped around at this spot and soldered with a big goober bead of solder...to itself!

After removing the electrical tape at this juction, I could easliy move the 14 ga loop on the alt. wire. To the 14 ga wire was a butt connector connecting 2 wires to it. One was the orange wire going to the computer. The other was butt connected to a white wire which went to the terminal block. The terminal block was missing the jumper plate that connects the 2 studs. So the harness was connected to the same stud as the white wire.

Fabbed a jumper plate for the main terminal to connect the 2 studs. Removed the 14 ga loop from the alt. wire and covered the bare wire area w/ several wraps of electrical tape. Placed the ring terminal of the alt wire on the larger alt stud of the main block. Put a smaller ring terminal on the orange computer power wire & slid it on the small dia stud of the main block along with the harness ring terminal and the white wire. Crimped a large ring terminal on the end of the white wire & connected it to the battery. Then tightened everything down.

Will run the car out tomorrow for a voltage reading. Hopefully, it will read 13.8 v and stay there instead of 12.9 v.

Slowly it rises (but, man o man, does it ever haul when asked! ).

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Wiring harness now sees a constant 13.8 volts!

Swapped hot light & temp gauge wires to stop gauge pegging.

Installed A/C line between orifice valve and condenser.

Next, anyone have a spare A/C tube that connects to the inlet side of the condensor? (The line w/o the pressure valve fitting.)

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I LOVE YOUR THREAD! Keep up the awesome work!

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Reconneted a front speaker wire. All 4 speakers functional again.

Showed my wife how to work the CD player. Works great!

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Installed

under the dash above the driver's right leg

Cleaned up the engine a little more. Plastic valve cover

Shaved the grill mounts again (easy mod)

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Noticed the engine needed to be cranked longer to start. Checked the fuel pressure. Slowy drops to 10-15 psi w/ the key off. Ordered a new regulator from Rock Auto.

Meanwhile, to get the fuel pressure up before starting, turn key to IGN and let pump run till it stops. Turn key to OFF, wait a few seconds, turn key back to IGN. Wait till pumps stops, then start engine.
Fires right up!

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Here's what the regulator looks like
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Bought a V6 aircleaner w/mounting bracket

and a vapor canister w/ mounting bracket

Both for $10 each.

The space these normally occupy is presently occupied instead by the Park Ave air cleaner. The gas tank breather tube to the canister was cut off and pinched shut right below where the canister should be. It makes it difficult to get more than a few gallons in the tank when filling up.

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Modded the vacuum lines to clean up the engine.

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