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FINALLY!!, Yellow PPG GTP Pace Car has a new home in Iowa by RAREW66
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Wow, what a unique car. I also own a 1987 fiero with 000079 actual miles on it that was a donated vocational school car. Mine was sold as a abandoned car from the school. Does anyone have the paperwork from GM that explains the donation rules? i would reimberse ya 4 a copy of it. thanks Ed
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HYPER6 has been a great help explaining to me the in&outs of GMs Donated cars and the rules. i have learned they have no legal strings to the cars after they donate them, as long as they are never registered or driven. Even then some wind up titled & are legal. GM lost a famous battle over the CERV corvettes after the donated cars showed up at a auction. Old story posession is 9/10s of the law! Sorry i cant post pics here of mine but they are on a Archived thread in pennocks called STORED&LOST FIEROS i believe the last post was in May 2005? Can someone pop it up here? Thanks Ed
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Sorry i cant post pics here of mine but they are on a Archived thread in pennocks called STORED&LOST FIEROS i believe the last post was in May 2005? Can someone pop it up here? Thanks Ed

This one? //www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20050818-1-047789.html

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I have a ton of interior and intake pictures of my car. I just need to sit a resize them for PIP. Maybe I will find time this weekend to do the pics.

One of the Forum Members who actually E-Mailed me received this response on the intake set-up on my car. I am still waiting for any type of information or spec sheets on the mechanicals from the six cars from Rousch. The couple of contacts that I have talked to at Rousch are my source for some of the following information from their recollections, the rest is my data from when I had the intake off:

"The intake had the bottom cut off and a plate welded straight across the bottom. Lots of filler rod was used on the sides to build up material to close the sides. The upper, middle and lower intake are machine ported and the runners are .190 larger than stock. The heads are ported on the intakes, but only polished on the exhausts. The cam is not stock either. I measured .125 more lift on intake and .155 more lift of exhaust than a stock cam. I do not know if the valves are any larger either. But the car does have stock cast iron heads on it. I did not go any deeper in to the engine yet to determine the duration. The TB is bored to 58mm. The six engines were built by Rousch. They are searching to see if they can find any records on specs or dyno sheets. Supposedly the engine was bored to 3.0L and the crank was changed to a shorter stroke. This engine runs like a 3 cylinder V-6 until about 2800 rpm, then it takes off. I have revved it to 6k and it was still pulling at 130mph. One of the original drivers told me that these cars normally ran at 140-145 mph during there on track exhibition. The turbo car was reported as being capable of 165 mph on 14 lbs of boost."

I will see what I can do about the pictures this weekend.

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Yes thats the thread that got pics of my 79 mile Fiero [page2] Thanks Ed
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thanks rarew66 i would love to see more pic of the intake
a big thanks in advance
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bumped and waiting paciently for pictures ( hint hint)

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Originally posted by RAREW66:

I have a ton of interior and intake pictures of my car. I just need to sit a resize them for PIP. Maybe I will find time this weekend to do the pics.

still waiting
or email me them please
thanks james

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In Davenport? Awesome, I might have to check them out sometime. Soooo..... where exactly do you live? And uh.... when are you not home, and which windows/doors are least visible from the street?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by FieroGT42:

In Davenport? Awesome, I might have to check them out sometime. Soooo..... where exactly do you live? And uh.... when are you not home, and which windows/doors are least visible from the street?

You could always come to the Heartland Fieros Xmas party on Jan. 28th in Cedar Rapids and meet the man (I'm almost positive he'll be bringing pictures).

P.M. if you need directions,

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well i tryed
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This thread is incredibly interesting! Id love to see the interior shots, also.

Very unique piece of Fiero history. Excellent job (RAREW66) with all the work you have done to dig up this information!

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WOW

Hats off on all the hard work of saving such an interesting car! I can't wait to see more pictures of it.

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Bump for pics


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A couple from Auburn this last July



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hmmm anyone else see what I'm seeing? looks like a fastback clip with notchie tailights creating the lip effect.


Its close, but if you look at the sides, the sail panels are set in a bit and arent flush with the sides of the car.. a much better look i think..

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Now that you mention it... I agree, I like that look a little better. Is it just me, or do the butresses not extend as far back along the decklid either?
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wow i think i found a new favorite nose i hope some one could make a new fiberglass nose for regular fieros. very nice car whats the latest on it
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Fred,

You ought to get with Sage and Doug and have these noses repro'ed. Just my $.02.
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I agree with Raydar. These have to be one of the best noses for these cars. Too bad these weren't stock. What else I'd like is the rear most part of the upper clip. Don't care for the fastback part, but I like the GT shape it has around the lights.

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A couple from Auburn this last July



The nose especially the lower part blends in with the rest of the ground FX much better than a stock GT. Also It doesn't have the stock ones tapered bottom which looks much better.You should duplicate it and sell it

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wow ive never herd of these fieros befor

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 86_fiero_gt_92:

wow ive never herd of these fieros befor

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Ive seen a few pictures around, and they didn't look that much different then a regular GT inside to me. Just some extra stuff for the light bar is all i remember being different. Its not like they were a prototype car.


I still like the look more then the regular fastbacks.
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Historic examples and stories of rare Fieros are always fascinating and I do appreciate the significance. However, I am one of the guys that can't leave a Fiero alone and prefer engine swaps, performance goodies and driving the car hard. With most show cars that I've seen, their owners baby them and often trailer them to the shows- nice collector items but they hardly ever get driven anywhere. Not to put down the museum piece but IMO the enjoyment of driving is the most fun of owning any automobile..

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Here are a few nice shots for some more history of the car. John callies helping Fred with a few questions and answers about his cars & its fuel cell. Rick B



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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

Not to put down the museum piece but IMO the enjoyment of driving is the most fun of owning any automobile..



Yeah, it's a nice car, but I would have to have a lot more money in the bank than I do now to own a car that I never drive.

Fred if you ever want to own a historically significant T-top let me know.

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Ummmmmm........what's the word? Oooooh.......JEALOUS!!!

Sweet ride, Fred.
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Hit "Higher quality" below the movie first. Notice Freds car and mine? We were lucky to put them in the group for a phtoo shoot. Rick B

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Just a question...what does "GTP" stand for?

Since these car looks like the actual GT fastback, and they are used as "pace car", does its stand for GT Pace car ?

I know, that sound like a stupid question...but I'm curious about the meaning.
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has anyone tryed to replicate these bumpers yet? id put one on my black gt in a heart beat.

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Just a question...what does "GTP" stand for?

Since these car looks like the actual GT fastback, and they are used as "pace car", does its stand for GT Pace car ?

I know, that sound like a stupid question...but I'm curious about the meaning.


The GTP comes from the trackside brochure that PPG gave out to it's guests while the cars were on display. Here is what the cover of the brochure looks like.


I do not know specifically what or if it means anything. Most of the GTP Pontiac models were either high performance or had boosted engines. I just think that it is a designation of High performance. I do know that GT is short for Gran Turismo which if I remember correctly stands for touring car in Italian.

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