Ok, I now understand that we are talking about two different areas.
I see your point but since my "hump" was removed and glassed in I don't think it flows poorly at all. I'm not a glasser or body person so maybe I'm just not seeing the problem.
Here are the direct links you asked for, I tried to find as many as possible for you to see the decklid from different aspects:
I think that's enough for now...It's a lot of pages to go through...
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Originally posted by Tha Driver:
I don't quite follow you. What I'm talking about has nothing to do with anything cut underneath. I'm referring to the way the rear point of the vent runs off of the factory raised area. That ain't right. Can you post a link to the post on the "perfect union" thread that you're talking about (so I won't have to search for it)? You can get the link to a specific post via the little vortex graphic thingie to the right of "QUOTE". ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"
Which do you most can't the least? What I most can't the least, would be do not a bad job but always a good.
Do you have any finished pics of the new lid? So You completely shaved the hump in the middle of the new lid flat? In that case the rear points wouldn't be an issue (although it might still look better if the sides went straight back...). ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"
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DLCLK87GT Member
Posts: 2696 From: South Jersey, USA Registered: Feb 2009
Originally posted by Tha Driver: You see how the vent points at the rear don't line up with the raised area of the Fiero lines in this photo? That's one of the things I plan to correct. ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"
I think Paul is referring to the contours of the bumps already on the lid that are more square to the back and the lines of the vent flaring out like this…
I think he wants them to match....i think.
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I didn't find the lines to be objectionable or really that noticeable, everything seemed to flow well. This would be a persaonal taste thing of course.
Nice to see someone is picking this up, I think it's a great looking mod.
Nolan
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Daredevil05 Member
Posts: 2345 From: South Jersey 08077 Registered: Oct 2006
I didn't find the lines to be objectionable or really that noticeable, everything seemed to flow well. This would be a persaonal taste thing of course.
Nice to see someone is picking this up, I think it's a great looking mod.
Nolan
Nolan
Did you find the mounted to be flimsy or not after cutting them out?
I think Paul is referring to the contours of the bumps already on the lid that are more square to the back and the lines of the vent flaring out like this…
I think he wants them to match....i think.
Exactly. You don't want body lines running in all different directions & overlapping each other. ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"
I didn't find the lines to be objectionable or really that noticeable, everything seemed to flow well. This would be a persaonal taste thing of course.
Nice to see someone is picking this up, I think it's a great looking mod.
Nolan
Everything is a matter of personal taste. I do a lot of custom paint jobs that are too outlandish for a lot of folk's taste. But most all of my custom design work is well liked. ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"
Did you find the mounted to be flimsy or not after cutting them out?
The peice that I received was too thin and I reinforced it with a couple of additional layers of fiberglass and imbedded an aluminum bar at the middle vent on the underside.
Everything is a matter of personal taste. I do a lot of custom paint jobs that are too outlandish for a lot of folk's taste. But most all of my custom design work is well liked. ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"
I'm sure that your product will will be well done and adjusting the "lines" could very well be a great improvement.
Nolan
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Feb 16th, 2011
Daredevil05 Member
Posts: 2345 From: South Jersey 08077 Registered: Oct 2006
I'm sure that your product will will be well done and adjusting the "lines" could very well be a great improvement.
Nolan
How very diplomatic of you to say so. I've been working on the vent: it's one of those cases where I would have been nearly as well off starting from scratch... I've cut down the sides to be parallel; making it so that it doesn't drop too deeply into the original hood (but still maintaining the same depth of the louvers); shortened the first louver to match the rest (don't know why the original designer made it much bigger); & making the last louver the same depth as the rest (again: don't know why it was made different). I'll get some photos up soon. ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"
Soon, grasshopper. I'm taking pics, but I haven't made the time to put them on a webpage (rather work on the louver). Got about ten hours in the louver so far; still a long way to go. BTW never got your PM... ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"
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snakeskinner1 Member
Posts: 252 From: st. joseph,MO. Registered: Jan 2011
OK here is a link to the page on reworking the vent: http://angelonearth.net/DV.html Still a long way to go, but I'm working on it every chance I get. ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"
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Daredevil05 Member
Posts: 2345 From: South Jersey 08077 Registered: Oct 2006
Paul will the vent be thick enough that the louvers won't be flimsy when they are cut out for venting? Will that be an additional option if you cut out the vents vs the customers doing it themselves? This is a vent that I have been long waiting for since I got into the Fiero hobby thanks for stepping up to the plate.
The vent is looking great, now get back to work. Chop chop.
The Riv
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Paul will the vent be thick enough that the louvers won't be flimsy when they are cut out for venting? Will that be an additional option if you cut out the vents vs the customers doing it themselves? This is a vent that I have been long waiting for since I got into the Fiero hobby thanks for stepping up to the plate.
The vent is looking great, now get back to work. Chop chop.
The Riv
Here's the thing with my parts. They are hand-laid. What does that mean? Well, most aftermarket fiberglass parts are chopper-gun made. The chopper gun sprays out the resin & catalyst, & runs a continuous strand of fiberglass that it chops to length & mixes in with the resin. With hand-laid parts, you cut (or tear) mat out of a roll & place it on the part, soak it with resin, & roll out the air (you roll out the sprayed chopper gun strands too). You get more strength with hand laid parts as the fiberglass strands are more interwoven into each other. A hand laid part is as strong as a chopper gun part that is (roughly) twice the thickness. It takes a lot longer to hand lay a part, so it costs more. I use three layers of 1 1/2 ounce mat, which makes a part about 1/8" thick. So yes they will be thick enough (& strong enough) so as to not be flimsy. I'll give buyers the option to cut it themselves or have me cut it. It could be cut in any of a number of configurations, as it'll have a solid, smooth surface across the face(s) (unlike the original). ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"
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ALL_CAMMED_UP Member
Posts: 114 From: Pennsylvania, USA Registered: Feb 2011
nice progress, are these going to be available as a whole trunk or a cut the hole yourself kinda deal? have any idea on pricing yet? thanks
I'm planning to give folks the options of just the vent (which will actually be the forward part of the decklid), just the decklid skin (bond your inner structure to it, or for a race car use hood pins), or a bolt-on decklid. Bolt-on decklids will be around $600 + shipping (which can be done by greyhound but still not cheap). The bolt-on decklids will have a custom built inner structure made to match up to the inner mods of the louvers. Skins will probably be around $300, just the louver vent around $175. These are tentative & probably uncut prices (louver holes not cut out), but we'll see how much time is involved making them once I get the molds made. The above three options will apply - hopefully - to all hoods & decklids I make in the future. At least that's the plan. I just hope I can sell enough parts to make up for all the time it's going to take to make all these multiple molds for all these parts. ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"
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carbonfiber_kid Member
Posts: 203 From: Oxford, Mi, USA Registered: Apr 2006
More photos. Brushed some primer on it today. It still needs a lot of work, but with it all one color & using a guide coat I'll be able to better see what it needs. http://angelonearth.net/DV.html ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"
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craigsfiero2007 Member
Posts: 3979 From: Livermore, ME Registered: Aug 2007
Excellent Work! Looks a million times better than what you started out with. It will definately follow the lines of Fiero decklid now. Can't wait to see the end product.
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Mar 28th, 2011
Daredevil05 Member
Posts: 2345 From: South Jersey 08077 Registered: Oct 2006
I will like to thank you for bringing back a vent that probably would of been lost for years in storage somewhere. Great work. You gave this vent new life.
The Riv
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Quad GT Member
Posts: 1614 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2002
Thank you too Quad GT. Without your vent this wouldn't be possible. Thanks again for trusting Paul with your vent. Trust me it 's in good hands of a fiberglass surgeon. You guys should be pride for helping out the Fiero community.
