I know plenty of people that like pretty pictures and want to adorn themselves with such pretty pictures. Think of them as "skin-modders".. maybe thats a term that is easier for you to understand since you do so many mods on your cars. They are changing themselves to be more appealing to their eye.. thus thats the only true meaning a tattoo should have is that it is something the wearer likes. They are not getting it for your approval.
I have a habit of getting joke tattoos.. the only reason is I get a good chuckle from people who see them. I have a skull on the inside of my arm with a dagger going through its eye. I really liked the design, but it had a banner that said "Death before dishonor".. well, i am not a marine and so I changed the words to "Ouch my Eye!" Next will be a rooster on a noos on my lower leg so I can have a **** that hangs below my knees.
None of this stuff means a whole lot to me so I am having fun. If you don't see the reason why people would get tattoos that is just becase they are not for you... but that does not really give you a license to be snarky about the choices of others. Unless, of course, they get a poorly executed tattoo, then by all means..
Of course it is with respect that I tell you these things, I am sure you have formed your opinion based on the countless samples of people with terrible scratcher tattoos out there. Much like with anything else, sometimes people look at cost over quality, and sadly that has left a legacy of bad tattoos in this land. But not all of them, or the people who wear them, go for the cheapest hack they can find. Just the stupid ones. I encourage you to take a closer look, you may see some incredible stuff. Real art.
Really, you seem to be on the fence with this:
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As a professional representing the tattoo community, I have to say those ARE pretty bad. BUT.. I have seen worse. Not many, but I have. Usually involving scar tissue, etc. Still, is this a joke? No, I don't believe it is. This is someone with more website building skills than tattoo building skills. Scary. Probably got a starter kit from Spaulding and Rodgers or off ebay and thought the free t-shirt included that said "Tattoo Artist" instantly qualified him.
The two 'bluebirds' with the ribbon.. wow.
That's the beauty of tattoos, though, you can see with your own eyes if someone is good or not by thoroughly examining their portfolio when you walk in. Anything that looks questionable should be a 'red flag' and you should get out of there. Too bad we don't get visual records of procedures by other professionals.. like doctors and lawyers. Instead, we can only trust the plaque on their wall and if we 'heard anything' or not through others.
EDIT: OMG those nautical stars in pic 11.. I think I am gonna throw up.
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You know what the difference between tattooed people nd non-tattoed people are? tattooed people don't care if you have a tattoo or not!
Yes I have a tattoo. It's a Celtic cross (yes my family is from Scotland) and around it it says "Per suus vitualamen nostrum salus" which means "With his sacrifice our salvation" Please tell me how this makes me bad person or gang affiliated or anything that you stated Mad Curl.
Yes I have a tattoo. It's a Celtic cross (yes my family is from Scotland) and around it it says "Per suus vitualamen nostrum salus" which means "With his sacrifice our salvation" Please tell me how this makes me bad person or gang affiliated or anything that you stated Mad Curl.
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Seriously, you know that the Zodiac Killer used the same Celtic cross and that it's original origins are Pagan, right? From the Sun Goddess. You can look it up on the internet if you don't believe me.
Seriously, you know that the Zodiac Killer used the same Celtic cross and that it's original origins are Pagan, right? From the Sun Goddess. You can look it up on the internet if you don't believe me.
So you are insinuating that if you get that tattoo you turn into a serial killer or become a pagan? Oh and i guess you are claiming pagans are 'bad people'?
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madcurl Member
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So you are insinuating that if you get that tattoo you turn into a serial killer or become a pagan?
No. All I'm saying is you should do your research before you get a tattoo as is the case with some with Chinese calligraphy. Once you apply a tattoo-you own it for life and everything it represents pirate or otherwise.
No. All I'm saying is you should do your research before you get a tattoo as is the case with some with Chinese calligraphy. Once you apply a tattoo-you own it for life and everything it represents pirate or otherwise.
Ok just checking as it wasn't real clear there.
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madcurl Member
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Oh and i guess you are claiming pagans are 'bad people'?
Ironic isn't? Countries declaring victory over other continents and inhabitants later adopting the very things they once condemned like tribal tattoo, the naming of sport teams, and body piercing and then to turn around and claim these tribal or Chinese tattoos have meaning to them 100 years later.
Ironic isn't? Countries declaring victory over other continents and inhabitants later adopting the very things they once condemned like tribal tattoo, the naming of sport teams, and body piercing and then to turn around and claim these tribal or Chinese tattoos have meaning to them 100 years later.
Conquerors normally adopt parts of the losers cultures.
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Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
My son is 24 and was honorably discharged as a corporal after a four-year enlistment in the U.S. Marine Corps. He was deployed twice to Iraq. Since his return he has been attending community college, but he lacks the focus and is bored. He has recently announced that he would like to return to the military.
When he approached the Marine recruiter to re-enlist, he was told he's ineligible due to tattoos on his arms. After four years of honorable and devoted service, this rejection is insulting. He has announced to family that he will pursue enlistment in the French Foreign Legion next year.
This is very distressing to me, and I'm sick with worry about his well-being. I do not want him to go off to fight in a foreign military. Can you offer any words of wisdom? -- WORRIED MOM IN GAINESVILLE, FLA.
DEAR WORRIED MOM: Encourage your son to explore enlistment opportunities with other branches of the U.S. military regarding their tattoo policies. However, while you and I might consider his desire to join the French Foreign Legion to be an extreme overreaction to his rejection by the Marines, as an adult he has a right to make that choice. If he goes through with his plan, he may see less action than he would as a member of the U.S. military.
While I can't make this easier for you as a parent, I do have this advice to offer. Tell your son it would be in his best interest to learn some basic French before he goes.
Unless your a pirate, slave, stupid gang, or a animal IMHO the whole idea of having tattoes is just plain silly. I've seen tribal tattoes on Whites and you know the closest they've come to any tribe is from viewing a history book. As for Blacks..please! That is plain stupid and for you can't even see the colors. As for the all others like the "tramp stamp" that just goes on to show how silly some people jump on the band wagon and think it's cool. Not!
Bigotry. Plain and simple, I'm a 20 Year old white male with many many many tattoos. Doing it for the band wagon to think it's cool? Check where you grew up, please.
I did it because I love art, because I want to be different, it's people like YOU who make people like ME do the things I do.
Freedom, that's why I love this country.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
I did it because I love art, because I want to be different, it's people like YOU who make people like ME do the things I do.
Freedom, that's why I love this country.
That is one of the reasons "why" some people have tattoos-rebellion. They like to use any excuse in order to justify their actions, but in the end it's all about rebellion, but you call it art. Try going to an art museum. Real art works last for decades, but what will your art work be called 10-20 years from now? Here's a clue. Faded, blotchy, and winkled drawings on a tired canvas.
Bigotry. Plain and simple, I'm a 20 Year old white male with many many many tattoos. Doing it for the band wagon to think it's cool? Check where you grew up, please.
I did it because I love art, because I want to be different, it's people like YOU who make people like ME do the things I do.
Freedom, that's why I love this country.
You have the freedom to do as you please, but you get a visible tat, and you put on a sign that associates you with everyone else that has a tat, good or bad, and most people will have a negative view of that tat... My niece had a tat, and a year later, she spent A LOT of money to have it removed, she now has a job in the financial market... BTW, when you do something to be different, why do something a lot of people do?
Art is a personal thing and you cant call anything not 'real' art or 'real'. You may not like something that is considered art, but that doesn't negate what it is.
Another example would be comic books. I have no like for them at all, but i wont call them 'garbage' or 'stupid' , or the people that go to comic-con as 'idiots' just because i don't see a point. Others do and enjoy it. That's all there needs to be.
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...and most people will have a negative view of that tat...
Which only matters if you have low self worth and actually care what others think about you. ( and that goes for anything else, like hair, clothes, jewelry, what car you drive.... )
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Bigotry. Plain and simple, I'm a 20 Year old white male with many many many tattoos. Doing it for the band wagon to think it's cool? Check where you grew up, please.
I did it because I love art, because I want to be different, it's people like YOU who make people like ME do the things I do.
Freedom, that's why I love this country.
so you didn't get your tats because you like them. you got them to get a rise out of people.. rebelion is what thats called.. if thats why you have tats thats weak sauce.. if you said because I like them.. then that fine.. but with what you posted above.. you didn't get them because you liked them..
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Posts: 1333 From: Lowell, Michigan, USA Registered: May 2012
Which only matters if you have low self worth and actually care what others think about you. ( and that goes for anything else, like hair, clothes, jewelry, what car you drive.... )
No, I am talking about burning bridges before you cross them. If a person meets you and they are put off by tats and such, you are then outside their circle of trust. you then have to work very hard to gain access to that trust. It doesn't even have to be tats, it could be your style of dress, dress like a kid in baggy, droopy clothes, and you will be treated differently than if you wear a suit and tie (extreme example). First impressions are just that, FIRST impressions, you never get a chance to do it over.
Unfortunately, people with low self worth try to build themselves up by trying the extreme styles and fads...
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
2. You don’t listen, you wait for your chance to talk
3. You never change your mind
4. You jump to conclusions
5. You know something… about everything
Let analyze this. Let's see the evidence. Art work is only as-good canvas it's printed on and inspiration behind. If you have tattoos will let’s see them and compare art to art work found in museums. Please show us the old canvas from your youthful indiscretion.
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
Art is a personal thing and you cant call anything not 'real' art or 'real'. You may not like something that is considered art, but that doesn't negate what it is.
Another example would be comic books. I have no like for them at all, but i wont call them 'garbage' or 'stupid' , or the people that go to comic-con as 'idiots' just because i don't see a point. Others do and enjoy it. That's all there needs to be.
Are we talking about people dressed like super Heroes or people walking around in full body tattoos? One group has the word "Comic" and the other does not. One is serious and the other is not. One is a costume and the other is not.
On the subject of "real art" have you seen the art work painted on bridges, walls, box cars, and homes? Some call that art and others call it vandalized. No matter how hard they to try to make this type of art work acceptable all you have to do is drive pass the nearest freeway and you'll see this art work.
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Are we talking about people dressed like super Heroes or people walking around in full body tattoos? One group has the word "Comic" and the other does not. One is serious and the other is not. One is a costume and the other is not.
On the subject of "real art" have you seen the art work painted on bridges, walls, box cars, and homes? Some call that art and others call it vandalized. No matter how hard they to try to make this type of art work acceptable all you have to do is drive pass the nearest freeway and you'll see this art work.
I was talking comic books, which are considered art by many. I happen to care less about comic art personally, but others do, which was my point. I'm not overly impressed with bronze sculpture either, but i wouldn't run around claiming its not art simply because i don't like it, much as you are doing with tattoos.
I was also not talking illegal defacing of property. While it may be art on that wall, it doesn't make it legal.
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Posts: 11708 From: LAND OF CONFUSION Registered: Mar 2012
ah the 4 horsemen.. tats, if the owner likes it, thats fine.. but don't cry when others that you may need for employment don't feel the same way.. I had hair past my sholderblades and as thick as paul stanley of kiss..
it did nothing for my job search .. and that was in the 80's when long hair on guys was huge
When I was 14... I wanted to get a tattoo on my shoulder of the four heads of the Metallica band members. I thought it would be totally awesome.
Thank GOD I didn't do it...
I know a guy in his 60's that has Frank Zappa's face on his upper arm. He doesn't regret it. Used to have a friend that was pretty much neck to toe in tattoos ( and piercings ) and never regretted a one of them ( she is no longer with us however ). Different strokes for different folks. There is room for everyone, without insults. ( not saying you were.. just the general topic )
I have one Tatto, says USMC just above the sleeve line on my right arm. Meant something to me then, still does. Nope, I don't go around parading it for all to see but it's still there for those I choose to show it to. Those are few and far between.
Thought about getting one on my right buttocks, would be just like the ole USDA stamp found on meat at the market, would say, USDA Inspected, Prime. Haven't done it yet and most likely never will but, I tell the ladies it's there, it's up to them to discover it isn't. OK, so I don't do that often but, it's still fun to see their faces.
I don't see tats as art, I see them as folks hiding behind something to make them feel special. Every tat supposedly says something about the individual, I see a lot of them that simply look stupid. I'm not saying don't get them, I'm saying that if you do, use your head.
------------------ Ron We learn good judgement by exercising bad judgement. Such is the human condition, as sad as that sounds.
art on the wall the canvas or 30 lb paper doesn't change.. the human body does change.. we get fat some age and get thin. some wrinkle.. the canvas changes, most times not for the better..
what I've always wondered is, it we are always loosing skin tissue.. how the ink stays..
art on the wall the canvas or 30 lb paper doesn't change.. the human body does change.. we get fat some age and get thin. some wrinkle.. the canvas changes, most times not for the better..
what I've always wondered is, it we are always loosing skin tissue.. how the ink stays..
Paper, canvas, etc. degrades over time too. Why do you think the Constitution, priceless paintings are sealed in argon gas now? ( due to the degredatio of the ink and paper )
Even stone tablets degrade .. just takes longer.
The ink goes in subdermal, so it takes longer to fade out. But it does, given enough time.
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Paper, canvas, etc. degrades over time too. Why do you think the Constitution, priceless paintings are sealed in argon gas now? ( due to the degredatio of the ink and paper )
Even stone tablets degrade .. just takes longer.
The ink goes in subdermal, so it takes longer to fade out. But it does, given enough time.
oh I understand that, but it's much much slower than the human body.. well unless you go under the knife.. I'd love to be where I was at 20 "canvas" wise.. don't think my paintings changed much in the same 22 years lol
OK, so I don't do that often but, it's still fun to see their faces. 
