One my concerns about Newt is what I'm hearing about his record on the 2nd Amendment and gun control. Seems to me he helped get the assault weapons ban and some other anti-gun stuff through when he was speaker. Haven't yet had the time to do full research on him to verify this. Anyone else got any enlightening on the subject?

quote Originally posted by 2farnorth: One my concerns about Newt is what I'm hearing about his record on the 2nd Amendment and gun control. Seems to me he helped get the assault weapons ban and some other anti-gun stuff through when he was speaker. Haven't yet had the time to do full research on him to verify this. Anyone else got any enlightening on the subject?

Newt Aims To Kill Ban On Assault Weapons
BY DAVE EISENSTADT DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
Tuesday, December 05, 1995

WASHINGTON House Speaker Newt Gingrich cut a deal with conservative lawmakers yesterday and agreed to have the House consider overturning the ban on assault weapons.

"Newt said there will be a vote before the end of the year," said Gingrich spokeswoman Lauren Sims. A specific date has not been set.

The weapons ban, signed into law by President Clinton in 1994, covers 19 types of semi-automatic weapons.

It was so hotly contested last year that it passed the House by two votes.


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I checked out the House vote for this bill for H.R. 3355 and Newt's vote? No GA-6 Gingrich, Newton [R]

I'm not for sure who is spreading the word that Newt supported or voted for the Assault Weapons Ban, but it isn't true.

Newt has moved further to the right over the past several years. Right now, he's got my full support. I see nothing any better out there.

Nothing better? I'm not sure whether I agree, but that's pretty sad if it's true.

quote Originally posted by dratts: Nothing better? I'm not sure whether I agree, but that's pretty sad if it's true.

You do have a point but, the same issue comes up every election. Look at what we ended up with last time. I suppose there is a way I would vote to re-elect the current administration but, I don't believe Osama Bin Laden can or will run against..................... Oh, never mind.

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The key thing is to wake up breathing! All the rest can be fixed. (Except Stupid - You can't fix that)

quote Originally posted by blackrams: You do have a point but, the same issue comes up every election. Look at what we ended up with last time. I suppose there is a way I would vote to re-elect the current administration but, I don't believe Osama Bin Laden can or will run against..................... Oh, never mind.

No matter who's on the ticket, Obama will be running against Bush.

quote Originally posted by dratts: Nothing better? I'm not sure whether I agree, but that's pretty sad if it's true.

It might be true, and I have to agree with you.

I would like to say that there isn't a republican candidate that I can get behind, but I don't think the democratic party is guilt free either. They both take $ and lie there asses off.

If I could draw cartoons, I'd make an illustration of a line of zombies waiting to reelect Obama.

quote Originally posted by spark1:

quote Originally posted by spark1: [IMG]http://www.davegranlund.com/cartoons/wp-content/uploads/Color-GOP-voters-2012.jpg[IMG]

Can someone explain the clothespin on the lady in front to me? edit: Is it just that they all stink?

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quote Originally posted by 1988holleyformula: Can someone explain the clothespin on the lady in front to me? edit: Is it just that they all stink?

Yes. She is holding her nose and preparing to vote for the least stinky one. In this case, think of a combination of limburger cheese, garlic, and eau de skunk-sweat. Blech.

quote Originally posted by ktthecarguy: Yes. She is holding her nose and preparing to vote for the least stinky one. In this case, think of a combination of limburger cheese, garlic, and eau de skunk-sweat. Blech.

How much more does Obama have to "stink" before you finally come out and say "Blech" about him? I mean, seriously, you still like the job he's doing?

quote Originally posted by JazzMan: At least illegal aliens will vote for him.

Thanks to the Democrats they CAN

quote Originally posted by fierobear: How much more does Obama have to "stink" before you finally come out and say "Blech" about him? I mean, seriously, you still like the job he's doing?

There will always be those who will continue to love Obama as long as he continues to not be George W. Bush.
Something about only giving Obama "achievable goals."

quote Originally posted by Formula88: There will always be those who will continue to love Obama as long as he continues to not be George W. Bush. Something about only giving Obama "achievable goals."

yeah, like fitting the suit and reading the teleprompter with clear diction.

I'm not an Obama fan, but it's about time to give it a rest. There is no one here who doesn't know what position you guys take on him. I get it. You don't have to keep hitting me over the head with it. I will only say this once. I think GW Bush was the dumbest president that we've ever had and the country will suffer for years because of him. I don't feel any need to keep dissing him. He's history, so hopefully I won't feel the need to keep on and keep on about him. Once more though, I'm not a democrat or a fan of Obama.

This thread is supposed to be about Newt!!!!! It's basically become a free for all with very little context.....

quote Originally posted by dratts: I..I don't feel any need to keep dissing him. He's history, so hopefully I won't feel the need to keep on and keep on about him.

and yet........you did!

Figured you deserved to know where I'm coming from because I don't think I ever really expressed my opinion of Bush. I'm done though no need for me to go on about it.

quote Originally posted by dratts: Figured you deserved to know where I'm coming from because I don't think I ever really expressed my opinion of Bush. I'm done though no need for me to go on about it.

I only bring GW up when people act like his tax cuts (the ones still in effect) created jobs, the Great Recession didn't start during his administration, and the bail-outs didn't start with him. It's as if all of this started the moment Obama took office. I'm not happy with any of it, but at least I have an idea of when it all started. I'll probably vote Libertarian just so I don't have to vote for the same old finger-pointers.

quote Originally posted by dratts: I'm not an Obama fan, but it's about time to give it a rest. There is no one here who doesn't know what position you guys take on him. I get it. You don't have to keep hitting me over the head with it. I will only say this once. I think GW Bush was the dumbest president that we've ever had and the country will suffer for years because of him. I don't feel any need to keep dissing him. He's history, so hopefully I won't feel the need to keep on and keep on about him. Once more though, I'm not a democrat or a fan of Obama.

dratts.. sorry.. going to call you out on this one a lil bit. GW is the "dumbest" president? Why do I suddenly get the feeling you were born after 1990?.. Mind you I'm no fan of Bush Jr. But "dumbest, worst?" For economic or foreign issues? Looked up Wilson, Roosevelt, Roosevelt, Carter?

What exactly were you expecting? He promised manned missions to Mars when he first got in.. Bam 9/11.. Oh but that was a Bush Cheney plot to dump a trillion into mil spending and then get called out about intel that everyone else on the planet agreed on..
jeesh..

I am answering only to let you know that I read your reply. I promised that I wouldn't keep on about my opinion of GW and I won't. Nobody here is going to change their mind because of what I say. I'm kind of glad that I wasn't born after 1990. I've pretty much lived my life. My kids, grandkids and great grandkids don't have much to look forward to.

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Wow! That was a slick video. I think that there is a good chance that it will be Gingrich/Obama in 2012 and that it won't be boring.

quote Originally posted by Wichita: Newt Aims To Kill Ban On Assault Weapons BY DAVE EISENSTADT DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU Tuesday, December 05, 1995 WASHINGTON House Speaker Newt Gingrich cut a deal with conservative lawmakers yesterday and agreed to have the House consider overturning the ban on assault weapons. "Newt said there will be a vote before the end of the year," said Gingrich spokeswoman Lauren Sims. A specific date has not been set. The weapons ban, signed into law by President Clinton in 1994, covers 19 types of semi-automatic weapons. It was so hotly contested last year that it passed the House by two votes. .......... I checked out the House vote for this bill for H.R. 3355 and Newt's vote? No GA-6 Gingrich, Newton [R] I'm not for sure who is spreading the word that Newt supported or voted for the Assault Weapons Ban, but it isn't true.

according to this Newt helped remove the ban. that's a good thing in my book. It was a joke.

I like guns and I think that an assault rifle would be fun to play with. I don't need one though and I do worry about them falling into the wrong hands.

quote Originally posted by dratts: I like guns and I think that an assault rifle would be fun to play with. I don't need one though and I do worry about them falling into the wrong hands.

the assault weapons ban did nothing to remove "assault" weapons. It was an arbitrary law that made people feel good, but effect no real change. Example.....An AK-47 with a bayonet lug and bayonet was an "assault weapon." remove the bayonet, it was now not an "assault weapon." Either way, the AK-was still legal to own and did nothing to effects it's performance as a rifle.

The law is also unconstitutional. The 1986 automatics weapons ban is unconstitutional as well, and should be removed.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: How much more does Obama have to "stink" before you finally come out and say "Blech" about him? I mean, seriously, you still like the job he's doing?

As opposed to McCain? OMG yes. Not even a real question!

Actually, I am just sick of "Newt 2012" calling me every night.... I just hang up. Frankly, I don't like any candidate at this point.

Newt's moderated his stance on child labor laws... now they are merely "stupid". He thinks it's okay if kids can work as assistant janitors, mopping floors and cleaning toilets in schools.

Either he has never read the toxic ingredients labels on the cleaning solutions they use in schools, or he just doesn't care if your kid dies from poisons used on the job.

The world can't be rid of this twit soon enough.

Gingrich Scolds Pelosi for Suggesting She’d Air Ethics Charges
http://www.bloomberg.com/ne...pprenticeships-.html

quote Originally posted by ktthecarguy: How can you out-and-out lie like this?!? By most economists estimates, the recession began in late 2007, then the financial meltdown happened in the summer of 2008, during the presidential campaign. Don't you remember when McCain famously QUIT THE CAMPAIGN in order to address the problem? (He quit for almost one whole day!) And dubya initiated TARP; Obama continued it (much to his shame). How can you be so woefully ignorant of recent history? This stuff is EASILY google-able, or just freaking remember yesterday!!! Jeezus!!!

The only reason the recession didn't arrive earlier is that bush was riding the housing bubble. People were refinancing and pouring money into the economy.

quote Originally posted by rpro: Newt is clearly the smartest and most qualified of the GOP field. I wish people would realize that and get behind him.

He's also got more baggage and hypocrisy in his past then most Americans will approve of when voting.

Like this:

quote By SHANNON McCAFFREY, Associated Press Shannon Mccaffrey, Associated Press – ATLANTA – Newt Gingrich says his passion for his country contributed to his marital infidelity. In an interview posted Wednesday by The Christian Broadcasting Network, Gingrich — who recently converted to Catholicism — said he had sought God's forgiveness for mistakes in his past. "There's no question at times of my life, partially driven by how passionately I felt about this country, that I worked far too hard and things happened in my life that were not appropriate," Gingrich said. "What I can tell you is that when I did things that were wrong, I wasn't trapped in situation ethics, I was doing things that were wrong, and yet, I was doing them," he said. "I found that I felt compelled to seek God's forgiveness. Not God's understanding, but God's forgiveness." Gingrich went on to say that he and his third wife, Callista, now have a great marriage. "Forget about all this political stuff. As a person, I've had the opportunity to have a wonderful life, to find myself now, truly enjoying the depths of my life in ways that I never dreamed it was possible to have a life that was that nice," he said. The twice-divorced former U.S. House speaker has admitted he had an affair with Callista, a former congressional aide, while married to his second wife. It happened at the same time he was attacking President Bill Clinton for his relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. The interview with the Christian broadcaster comes as Gingrich gears up for a likely presidential run. He has been courting religious and social conservatives who would be critical in a GOP primary....

Cmon man, you cheated on your wife in the name of passion for your country ? And hounded and impeached Clinton for the same thing you were doing at the same time? (that's to say, cheating and lying about it.)

Lame.

He is the smartest (cleverest) republican out there. At this point it looks like he will be the one opposing Obama. It definitely won't be boring. Hopefully his baggage doesn't take him down too soon. I'm looking forward to seeing those two square off.

quote Originally posted by ktthecarguy: How can you out-and-out lie like this?!? By most economists estimates, the recession began in late 2007, then the financial meltdown happened in the summer of 2008, during the presidential campaign. Don't you remember when McCain famously QUIT THE CAMPAIGN in order to address the problem? (He quit for almost one whole day!) And dubya initiated TARP; Obama continued it (much to his shame). How can you be so woefully ignorant of recent history? This stuff is EASILY google-able, or just freaking remember yesterday!!! Jeezus!!!

I think you misunderstood his post.

quote Originally posted by weaselbeak: I think you misunderstood his post.

Can you explain?