BTW - the title of this thread is "Where do you carry?". So, here is where my wife carries her .380 auto. After her experience yesterday, she says she wants to go today and simply "have some fun" with her own gun. She shot for record with the 9mm. Today, she will unlimber her .380.

that's a great place.
too bad fanny packs are out of style.

quote Originally posted by buddycraigg: too bad fanny packs are out of style.

I think if I were working where I was standing most of the time (auto mechanic or such), a fanny pack would be o.k.

you can legally carry a concealed weapon???

quote Originally posted by shermdizzle: you can legally carry a concealed weapon???

Not only in Texas but in many other states whose Attorneys General have agreed to recognize the permits issued by Texas as reciprocal to Texas recognizing the permits issued by their state. Additionally, many states (Colorado, Rhode Island, Nebraska, Hawaii, New York, Washington (state), New Jersey, Massachusetts, Maryland, California, Connecticut, Iowa and Nevada or cities (New York for example) issue carry permits which are recognized in Texas but Texas permit holders are not allowed reciprocal rights. Note that most of these non-agreeing states are high on the violence list and virtually all are controlled by the Democrat party!

quote Originally posted by buddycraigg: i'm not the sharpest tool in the shead.

maybe you shouldn't carry one then lol

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quote Originally posted by shermdizzle: you can legally carry a concealed weapon???

yep, in my state and many others

I shoulder my 9mm low on the side. More of a habit from my old survival vest, very handy for me. Plus it is a heavy weapon.
I have a small 25 I drop in the jacket pocket, pants pocket ect.

quote Originally posted by Indiana_resto_guy: I shoulder my 9mm low on the side.

what do you do in the summer when you cant wear a jacket?

It shows. In Indiana I need a permit to carry a hand gun either way.
It make people jitttery to see it though. It is not so common place like for instance Texas.
Did you get enough headlight motors to build up?

quote Originally posted by buddycraigg: what do you do in the summer when you cant wear a jacket?

quote Originally posted by Indiana_resto_guy: I have a small 25 I drop in the jacket pocket, pants pocket ect.

with you saying this
and the big freakin firearms instructor carring a 22 in his pocket,
i will probably clean up my "baby browning" and put it in my front pocket.

quote Originally posted by pokeyfiero: Just curious as to why you need a concealed gun. Do you live in a bad area? I would like to have a concealed carry permit but I doubt I would ever carry it. Around here it would seem more trouble than it is worth.

I live in a nice quiet suburb, but the crooks dont have to live here to come in causing troubles.

Ive had to display mine 3x in the last 20 some years. Once to avoid a robbery one evening while downtown up in Indy, another to prevent a friend from being beaten to a pulp by her drunk and 1/2 crazed ex-BF, as we waited for the cops to come arrest him for violating the restraining order. The 3rd time i had some wierdo running at my car with a baseball bat beacuse i was in 'his' road. He was parked in the middle of the road talking to people, i waited quietly for a moment as i wasnt able to get past, and when he moved he got out and came after me.. Idiot.

As far as where? Its normallly behind the right hip if its a 9mm, or in front of the hip ( front pocket area ) if its my 'backup' 32. Both are IWB, as outside it doesn't conceal well unless i have a big coat.. It comes off when i hit the car, and is stored beside the parking brake lever in Fiero, other cars it all depends on the layout.

Requalified for my concealed carry license today:



A 249 out of 250 49 shots into the 8 ring or better (5 points each), one shot at 45 feet into the 7 ring (4 points).

Learned some new thing about Texas carry laws, of course. Now a handgun can be legally carried - loaded - (with or without a license) in a motorized vehicle or on your person, if desired (motorcycle for instance) at anytime/anyplace - including school/court/etc parking lots. The handgun can't leave the vehicle unless the carrier has a CHL so a motorcycle carry could get difficult if one has to stop for "mother nature", hehehehe. But it is nice to know that car jackers can now meet with armed resistance more often since a license is not required for car/truck carry.

There is no longer any public disclosure of who holds CHLs in Texas. Only a legit law enforcement agency with lawful reason can obtain this info from the state.

Renewal license (my second) is good for 5 years. State Cost: $70.00. Third renewal (my next one) is good for 10 years and still cost $70.00.

quote Originally posted by buddycraigg: yep, in my state and many others

Wow, I see that I'm in one of the few (if not only by now) Communist states restricting Constitutional Rights.

quote Wow, I see that I'm in one of the few (if not only by now) Communist states restricting Constitutional Rights.

There actually is a few other states that have that problem - actually more Facists than communists, of course (east coast and west coast states for the most part). Remember that the next time you vote! Elections have consequences. Illinois (particularly corrupt machine) and Wisconsin politics (and laws - i.e. judges) are totally controlled by very liberal DIMocrats (sic)!

quote Originally posted by JohnF: There actually is a few other states that have that problem - actually more Facists than communists, of course (east coast and west coast states for the most part). Remember that the next time you vote! Elections have consequences. Illinois (particularly corrupt machine) and Wisconsin politics (and laws - i.e. judges) are totally controlled by very liberal DIMocrats (sic)!

Ya, i agree plenty more are restrictive, that map was mostly for reprosity.

Speaking of the maps, what happened to packing.org? The had some of the best and most up to date info for traveling all in one place.

Actually, Texas (Gov. Perry, by declaration) has decreed that ANY person licensed by ANY state can legally carry a concealed weapon in Texas. The law is not based on reciprocity. The following states residents that are licensed by their state to carry in their home state MAY legally carry in Texas (in accordance with Texas laws) but Texas license holders may NOT legally carry in their respective states:

Rhode Island, New York, Hawaii, Washington (state), New Jersy, Massachusetts, Maryland, California, Michigan, Connecticut, Iowa, Nevada, Nebraska.

A few of these states are set to amend their laws to allow Texas licensed carry but remaining state never will! Other 37 states are reciprocal to Texas.

Please everyone note that almost all of these states are controlled by the anti-gun (for you and me but not THEM) liberal left-wingers in politics! Again, elections have consequences!

JohnF, I couldn't agree with you more !!

quote Originally posted by JohnF: Other 37 states are reciprocal to Texas.

OOOOOPS I should have said "35 states". It must be recognized that Illinois and Wisconsin politicians only allow authorized law enforcement (from their respective states only), themselves and the other bad guys to carry concealed weapons. Therefore, Texas does not have any concealed carry agreement or acknowledgment regarding them. When they come to Texas they must rely on others to protect them, just like at home!

quote Originally posted by JohnF: Requalified for my concealed carry license today: A 249 out of 250

that's good enough for me to feel safe around you

quote Originally posted by JohnF: Now a handgun can be legally carried - loaded - (with or without a license) in a motorized vehicle or on your person, if desired (motorcycle for instance) at anytime/anyplace - including school/court/etc parking lots. The handgun can't leave the vehicle unless the carrier has a CHL so a motorcycle carry could get difficult if one has to stop for "mother nature", hehehehe. But it is nice to know that car jackers can now meet with armed resistance more often since a license is not required for car/truck carry.

i wish missouri would do this.
right now the only way you can carry in a vehicle and not have a permit is if it's an RV, because Missouri has passed a Protecting Your Castle law where you can pretty much kill someone for just "being in" your home. before the new law, you were REQUIRED to seek an exit before using deadly force.
anyway if you are in your RV on the road, it has become your house.

quote Originally posted by JohnF: There is no longer any public disclosure of who holds CHLs in Texas. Only a legit law enforcement agency with lawful reason can obtain this info from the state.

it's not public record here, but will show up if a cop runs your drivers licenses. even if you had the enforcement put on a state ID card.

quote Originally posted by buddycraigg: it's not public record here, but will show up if a cop runs your drivers licenses. even if you had the enforcement put on a state ID card.

Ah, the same in Texas. If a cop runs your DL through his on board computer, it WILL show that you have a CHL and its expiration date. He cannot (by law) divulge that info to a third party. I have no problem with that. I have been stopped (twice since 1998) for speeding and both times I was asked very nicely if I was carrying a weapon before any further questions. Both times I replied "yes". The officer told me to please keep both hands visible. Otherwise, the stop was very normal (and I paid a fine both times, hehehehehe).

The only bad thing about this situation, is that the bad guys weapons don't show on the cops 'puter!

My wife uses a purse arrangement similar to this one but installs a 357 (Colt Python). The shoulder strap has steel mesh reinforcement and the mfg guarantees a free replacement of you have to shoot through the purse in an emergency.

quote Originally posted by JohnF: BTW - the title of this thread is "Where do you carry?". So, here is where my wife carries her .380 auto. After her experience yesterday, she says she wants to go today and simply "have some fun" with her own gun. She shot for record with the 9mm. Today, she will unlimber her .380.

wait, im still baffled by this....it's completely legal to carry a weapon hidden on you???

seriously?

loaded and everything??

just as long as i go to texas or missouri???

then i can carry one in any of those states??

i can carry one in indiana if i have a license in MO???

quote Originally posted by shermdizzle: wait, im still baffled by this....it's completely legal to carry a weapon hidden on you??? seriously? loaded and everything?? just as long as i go to texas or missouri??? then i can carry one in any of those states?? i can carry one in indiana if i have a license in MO???

Yes, seriously. Not only in Texas and Missouri but many other states as well. But, in most states, only if you are legally permitted in your home state. As an Illinois resident you are simply SOL . Only Jesse Jackson, Jr and his friends are "allowed" to protect themselves - MOVE!

There are over 270,000 Texas private citizens legally permitted to carry concealed firearms. Many more have guns (loaded and handy - no state issued "permit" to carry concealed but still legal) in their cars or other means of transportation. It is called the "Castle Doctrine" A man's home (car, motorhome, motorcycle, motel/hotel, place of self-owned business (or if allowed by his employer - wherever he is located) is his "castle" in Texas.

quote Originally posted by JohnF: OOOOOPS I should have said "35 states". It must be recognized that Illinois and Wisconsin politicians only allow authorized law enforcement (from their respective states only), themselves and the other bad guys to carry concealed weapons.

Slight correction: As of last year, any active full time member of law enforcement may carry their service weapon, concealed, on or off-duty, in any of the 50 states and the District of Columbia, except on commercial aircraft or designated Federal properties, such as buildings owned by the United States Government.

[This message has been edited by Vonov (edited 09-24-2007).]

I stand corrected, hehehe! Thanks for the info addition.

This one still has my attention...

quote Originally posted by Intel: This one still has my attention...

What is it? I see a whip, I think, and something that looks like two cylinders out of a regular revolver. The thing between them looks, well, obscene, hehehehehe.

Not exactly something I would consider for "concealed carry", I don't think.

I guess i do not understand this whole "concealed weapon" thing. I line in Iowa and was told under no circumstances can anyone carry a concealed weapon (law enforcement and other obvious stuff not included). I have a gun permit and own a few guns and was thinking about tryin to get a CCP but was told its not possible here. Right now i carry brass knuckles (yeah, they are illegal to carry), I have had my life threatened more times than i can count and have been cut, stabbed and shot (with a .22LR). Plus i buy sell cars all the time so i have a good chunk of change on me quite often. Just sucks knowing if any one of the multiple people who say they are gonna kill me actualy tried, i would just have to hope i got a nice punch in before they could pull the trigger.

http://www.iowacarry.org/counties%20map.html

Iowa is a mess! Go here for possibly some help. Permits are issued by the county sheriff of each county on his sole discretion. So, some counties are "Impossible" some "possible but difficult" and some are almost "shall issue on request". It simply depends on which side of the bed a sheriff got up on that day! Get active politically on this issue in Iowa!

Note that Iowa is not reciprocal to Texas but any permit holder from Iowa can legally carry in Texas. We like concealed weapons on our streets!

Our Governor has said that he wants ALL restrictions removed from Texas chl holders. Current law says a chl holder cannot carry into a few places (hospitals, retirement homes, schools/High school football games (I guess a junior high game is o.k., hehehe) , amusement parks, etc). I hope he gets his way!

bump for a tid bit of an "update" or somethin....

My stepfather has set it up for me and him to go to Utah (IIRC) in order to take the needed classes and get a concealed weapon permit there that is good in Iowa. I just got my new gun today which when on my property i simply carry in my pocket. It is a Lorcin .25 CAL auto. I am getting an ankle harness sooner or later and will probably be getting a waste/hip harness to carry my .45ACP if the whole permit thing works out....

pics:


the gun is in my pocket in one of the two pics.... not tellin you which though....

quote Originally posted by shermdizzle: wait, im still baffled by this....it's completely legal to carry a weapon hidden on you??? seriously? loaded and everything?? just as long as i go to texas or missouri??? then i can carry one in any of those states?? i can carry one in indiana if i have a license in MO???

1.Yes...if you have a CHL(Concealed Handgun License).

2.Yes...seriously.

3.Yes...loaded and everything.

4.You being from Indiana...can NOT legally carry a concealed handgun on your person in Texas or Missouri(or any other state for that matter)...because you don't have a CHL.

5.No...See above answer.

6.No...Indiana does not honor other states CHL's...so you can NOT carry a concealed handgun even if you have a Missouri issued CHL.(which you can not attain because you are not a resident of MO)

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Black '86 GT-under construction
Silver '87 GT-daily driver

quote Originally posted by SLOWnSTEADY: bump for a tid bit of an "update" or somethin.... My stepfather has set it up for me and him to go to Utah (IIRC) in order to take the needed classes and get a concealed weapon permit there that is good in Iowa. I just got my new gun today which when on my property i simply carry in my pocket. It is a Lorcin .25 CAL auto. I am getting an ankle harness sooner or later and will probably be getting a waste/hip harness to carry my .45ACP if the whole permit thing works out....

I must say that I'm not real happy with my Lorcin 380. It stove pipe jams and has numerous failures to feed jams. The magazines are the primary problem and I don't see any way to correct them. They are too cheaply made. I've had to stretch the mag springs several times to get it to feed, the bottoms of the mags pop out sometimes when they are fully loaded, and the follower has cocked at an angle in the magazine. I hope they have changed for the better in the 12 years since I bought mine.

I reccomend taking the gun out and putting about 500 rounds through it to learn how well it works/doesn't work. That way if you have a jam in an emergency situation you'll know how to clear it quickly. Good luck

quote Originally posted by 2farnorth: I must say that I'm not real happy with my Lorcin 380. It stove pipe jams and has numerous failures to feed jams. The magazines are the primary problem and I don't see any way to correct them. They are too cheaply made. I've had to stretch the mag springs several times to get it to feed, the bottoms of the mags pop out sometimes when they are fully loaded, and the follower has cocked at an angle in the magazine. I hope they have changed for the better in the 12 years since I bought mine. I reccomend taking the gun out and putting about 500 rounds through it to learn how well it works/doesn't work. That way if you have a jam in an emergency situation you'll know how to clear it quickly. Good luck

yeah, i gotta put some rounds through it for sure. I only paid $55 for the thing so if it shoots at all i will be happy. I only got it due to its size until i get a CHL so i can legaly carry a pistol. At which time i will be carrying my .45ACP unless of course i decide to carry the Tec-9...

quote Originally posted by SLOWnSTEADY: I just got my new gun today ... It is a Lorcin .25 CAL auto.

A .25!!!! Are you trying to piss off a bad guy or kill him? Hit him with the gun, it will do more damage! Come to think of it, it might make a good fishing weight!

Texas has reduced its requirement to .32 cal and that is a shame as far as I am concerned. A .380 properly loaded with some Hydrashoks or something equivalent is about the minimum SERIOUS weapon a person should think about for sef-protection. A 9mm is better, a .40 better still and a .45 is good, too. Loaded weight and physical size can be the determining factors between the three or four calibers. A properly fitted and handled .40 will not have any more recoil than a 9mm. Studies show virtually no difference between the 9mm and the .45 in one-shot-stop incidences in the last 40 years.

If you are thinking about serous self-protection, don't look too closely at cost. The difference in a gun that cost $200 and the gun that cost $500 or more will not be a factor if you have to use it to save your life or the life of someone else. A FTF (fail to fire) or FTE (fail to eject "stove pipe") at a critical moment can be disastrous and that $300.00 in difference to gun costs inconsequential to the results.

generally any handgun costing under $100 will be problematic. if the gun fails to feed or fire at the wrong time, you wasted your $100. lorcin, bryco/jennings and others are called by some "junk guns". the ones i've seen have terrible fit and finish. you can do better with foreign mil-surp pistols, which are designed and built to be reliable.

quote Originally posted by JohnF: A .25!!!! Are you trying to piss off a bad guy or kill him? Hit him with the gun, it will do more damage! Come to think of it, it might make a good fishing weight!

this conversation has come up a few times.

and simply put.
which is better?

the 25 in your pocket
or
the 45 you left at home