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Choptops, widebodies, and wings ? by exoticse
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<awesome axes>



Man JScott, that is one nice comparison. I love both of your cars!
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My car is not done as you can see but it has a 3 inch chop archies rockers 8 inch wingstand are on there way spacecoastfieros tail lights front spoiler pisa quater window scoops i am not sure what color to paint it but i think red , yellow or black metalic
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Yeah, both cars could pass as "Twins."

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My car is not done as you can see but it has a 3 inch chop archies rockers 8 inch wingstand are on there way spacecoastfieros tail lights front spoiler pisa quater window scoops i am not sure what color to paint it but i think red , yellow or black metalic



i vote electric green

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A few ideas.

What do you think of this hood scoop ? Not sure i like it, but it is different.





It is sort of similair to this one.

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More ponderings.

What if one incorporated a Carrera GT like widebody (side only) into one's chopper like so.



It might look similair to this.



It could be done, combining madcurl's widebody method using the Archie IRM rockers, rear fender flaring, and fieroGTwideboby's front quarter panel treatment.







Hmmmmmmmmm,......

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that would be different, and different in this case is GREAT! i'd do it

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Originally posted by exoticse:

More ponderings.

What if one incorporated a Carrera GT like widebody (side only) into one's chopper like so.
It might look similair to this.



It could be done, combining madcurl's widebody method using the Archie IRM rockers, rear fender flaring, and fieroGTwideboby's front quarter panel treatment.


Have you not been following my build? lol. Tony tony tony... Its been started and its in my garage. A long time ago. The rest of the body kit gets delivered in 2 days! WOOT!
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Still looks like a Fiero, which is the idea. Very nice. I love it. Now I wonder how would it look with these headlights frozen round popups.... and




Single wiper arm.



Bello!

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[Continued] Borrowed pics from tech world




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well i see some pics of part of my car so i took a few more to show how it is coming

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well i see some pics of part of my car so i took a few more to show how it is coming


What size rears are you going to use?

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I am open to suggestions on color and wheels and tire's the flars added about 3 inches on each side so i am thinking like 305 in the back on a 17 inch wheel
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Originally posted by engine man:

I am open to suggestions on color and wheels and tire's the flars added about 3 inches on each side so i am thinking like 305 in the back on a 17 inch wheel



I added 3" per side and used 305's.
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305 it looks like then now what wheel and what color if some one could photshop some color on it with a few wheels that would be great

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well i havw decided to paint the car chrome yellow nice and bright so the cops will be able to pick me out LOL
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Widebody eh.... Do I count? This would be my second. haha. Build up seen....

//www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/058546-4.html

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** Custom Widebody 101 **

New edict from the widebody master himself (madcurl)

Rule A - If at all possible, get your wide wheels that you plan to put on the car first before you start adding the widebody.

Results in a cleaner and more accurate look as to where the body and the wheel will line up.

WIll save you a lot of headaches and redos.
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Originally posted by exoticse:


** Custom Widebody 101 **

New edict from the widebody master himself (madcurl)

Rule A - If at all possible, get your wide wheels that you plan to put on the car first before you start adding the widebody.

Results in a cleaner and more accurate look as to where the body and the wheel will line up.

WIll save you a lot of headaches and redos.



Ya' can't get any better than this.



compare
Homebrew'd

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Originally posted by exoticse:


** Custom Widebody 101 **

New edict from the widebody master himself (madcurl)

Rule A - If at all possible, get your wide wheels that you plan to put on the car first before you start adding the widebody.

Results in a cleaner and more accurate look as to where the body and the wheel will line up.

WIll save you a lot of headaches and redos.

Ok exoticse & MC...... please explain this. I'm getting ready to do my wide body using the front fenders (MC widebody technology ). Why Rims first then widebody and not after widebody just drive Fiero to "Wheels R' Us"? Did "FieroGTwideboby" follow this rule too? I have an '88 GT and trying to understand rim size and offset is not easy...

D

EDIT:
I can understand for HRE's which are custom made (which I have been looking into).

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I think he was more or less talking about mine.. haha. Doing the widebody before the rims. But I'll get it to primer, get rims, and add spacers, or a little lip on the fenders. Not really a big deal if its going to be custom anyways.

Best of luck.
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Ya' can't get any better than this.




Smokin'

Please tell me there is gonna be some big brake action?

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Ok exoticse & MC...... please explain this. I'm getting ready to do my wide body using the front fenders (MC widebody technology ). Why Rims first then widebody and not after widebody just drive Fiero to "Wheels R' Us"? Did "FieroGTwideboby" follow this rule too? I have an '88 GT and trying to understand rim size and offset is not easy...

D

EDIT:
I can understand for HRE's which are custom made (which I have been looking into).



Several reason why to go, "Rims first" and wide body last vs. Wide body first and "rim selection" last.

Uncharted territory----as in "rims." As for the Fiero's 5x100 bolt pattern------ that isn't the "best" pattern that major wheel companies make their selection from. The wheel companies are looking for the "cash cow" bolt patterns and 5x100 isn't a big slice of the pie. For homebrew fender flares (me included) or the "real deal" IRM wide body you'll need at least a 11-12" rim for the "full effect" and the selection of rims is mininum. What you'll find is most rims are offered in 20-35mm off-sets which are found on hot roddish rear wheel cars or modern American cars like Corvette's, Camero, Firebirds, and Mustangs using a different bolt pattern (positive off-sets) 5x120 something?.

If you've started a homebrew flarring or IRM wide body you may find yourself searching far and wide for a rim that fits or is "flush" with your custom fender flarring. If the rim is too far in.....it won't look good. If it's too far out...you'll need to add more flarring. Worst case...you'll find some rims offered but, the Wheel company "WILL NOT SEPARATE A COMPLETE SET" and you will either have to get someone to buy the other set and do a switch. If you go with a custom wheel company, you'll need to know what the specs are and just how much you want the rim to "stick-out" or stick-in. If you get the specs wrong.....the rims are your's.

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edit: wallpaper is not up anymore

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Originally posted by MclarenF1:


Smokin'

Please tell me there is gonna be some big brake action?


13" brakes are on the to-do list, still have a lot of work to do on the car. The chop, V8 swap, 6spd trans, custom imsa body, custom HRE's, all done but it's just the beginning.
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Things have gotten very interesting in this thread. I see many new developments and projects nearing the next step to completion. I wanted to comment and put forth my experience with the whole: which came first the rim or the widebody? Madcurl is right about the process and as I see it would ensure a correct and tight fit with the perfect stance. Another thing that having the rims would ensure is the correct width on both sides, you never know sometimes measurements get mis-measured. We unlike curly did not have the rims in place at the beginning or middle of the project, they were one of the last steps. I do have to admit that I know which rims I would use and how much space would have to be made up later. Maybe I'm too picky but I didn't want a set of rims that cost as much as most fieros do on the car with the styrofoam, bondo, drywall mud, fiberglass, resins, etc. I have to say it would have garnished the same result, with the likely hood of accidently damaging the wheels. You never know. The widebody can be done both ways, just matters how well you measure, and wether you are building a one-off or a one-off with molds. But like Madcurl said not many know or are very knowledgeable on the rim sizes/offsets so thatís were the rims would matter and should be on first. With our project we did not want to be limited by the size of our rims..hehe.. the body is 8 inches wider in the back and 4 in the front, I just wanted the room to sculpt freely.

Anyway I just wanted to express my opinion on the which came first the rim or the widebody? lol

Here is how it started:


Finally the rims are on.


After paint. The stance was complete with the adjustable coilovers.

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Thanks and happy building!
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Originally posted by Formula:

Get your choptop wallpaper here...

http://www.motirol.com/wallpaper/wallpaper.jpg

(Ive been looking for one like this for awhile, but just broke down and made it myself) its 1280x800 so it will work with you widescreen people out there.

edit: if people want it at different resolutions then let me know, if you display it at center on anything less then 1280x800 it will look fine



COOL. How in the heck did I over look this??? I need to blow this pic up and place it inside the garage.

Thanks for making it.

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Thx for the explination MC & FieroGTRwideboby. I will have a chat with Tony (exoticse), he did mention something to me, and your explination makes alot of sense.

Custom2M4 have not heard good things about adding spacers. Wheel bearings will wear and tear much faster.

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Custom2M4 have not heard good things about adding spacers. Wheel bearings will wear and tear much faster.



depends on the size of spacers. 1-2 inch and it won't be as much wear on the bearings. Obviously more then normal, but not to a huge degree. My car will be a sunday driver so if I do spacers, the amount of money saved on not purchasing my 8200$ 20" custom rims / tires will be enough to cover any loss of bearings :P.
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depends on the size of spacers. 1-2 inch and it won't be as much wear on the bearings. Obviously more then normal, but not to a huge degree. My car will be a sunday driver so if I do spacers, the amount of money saved on not purchasing my 8200$ 20" custom rims / tires will be enough to cover any loss of bearings :P.



Hmm. In 2005 at the Daytona show, a lady named Bydgita (mispelled) who owns a 87 grey GT had a set of rear spacer on her Fiero. Her boy friend no doubt place them on the car securely but, while she was on her way to Daytona, the darn wheel spacer nearly came. On their way back from the show things got worse. Keep in mind, her car is somewhat "custom" but isn't a trailer queen however, I was under the impression that it's not a daily driver. My point is....regardless of what the miles or how it's being used....we don't want to loose any of our Fieros and most importantly our friends over something like a spacer.
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my lack of pic ablility hinders me again, but i have a combo sort of like this on one car that i like.

the hood vent is similar to this...

http://www.astonmartinracing.com/content/allsites/images/DBR9_03_96f35ddd-f953-461f-b1b2-5a85ff34ba14.jpg

i tell ya those aston martin guys are spying in my backyard. my hood looks almost exactly like the front row of vents on this hood.


the front facia is the open mouth chin spoiler combined with a gt facia like the blue bigmouth facia in the mods section of the gallery. the width of the hood vent is close to the width of the front facia opening. this old thread has a pic of it...

//www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20030204-1-020947.html



i had them on two different cars but they go together so well that i swapped hoods to have them on the same car (the hood in the pic is now on my convertible).
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Wow i think this is great every one building some sort of cool fiero short fat with a tall wing with a set of steam roller tires and every one has there own idea onhow fat how tall and how to get there and i think they all look great
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Alternative flarring for rockers?

Combination of a homebrew vent with Pisa rocker. Notice the difference


Before:


after:
pics of the modified Pisa side rockers as they were installed and smoothed in.



painted:



The adding of the Pisa rocker beef'd up the area near the tires. Pisa sold me just the area I needed.

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Hmm. In 2005 at the Daytona show, a lady named Bydgita (mispelled) who owns a 87 grey GT had a set of rear spacer on her Fiero. Her boy friend no doubt place them on the car securely but, while she was on her way to Daytona, the darn wheel spacer nearly came. On their way back from the show things got worse. Keep in mind, her car is somewhat "custom" but isn't a trailer queen however, I was under the impression that it's not a daily driver. My point is....regardless of what the miles or how it's being used....we don't want to loose any of our Fieros and most importantly our friends over something like a spacer.


I can't see how a spacer would "give", causing any kind of trouble that a low offset rim wouldn't. I'm not critizing who ever put them on, but obviously this isn't the whole story...

Never the less, you can order custom control arms in any extention needed, if spacers aren't wanted.
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well i thought i would show you all how mine is going to look as far as the style i still need to do som finishing body work on it befor paint witch is screaming yellow the wheels arnt doing anything for it


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well i thought i would show you all how mine is going to look as far as the style i still need to do som finishing body work on it befor paint witch is screaming yellow the wheels arnt doing anything for it


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umm.... i guess this counts as a widebody.. right?

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It looks wide too me. What size rims are you going to use in the rears? Oh, I like the hood.
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Originally posted by madcurl:

It looks wide too me. What size rims are you going to use in the rears? Oh, I like the hood.


Well Pisa recomends zero offset 10 inch wide rims. But my inner "what if" is thinking that i can bring the offset in a little and hang 12"s back there. I want to have at least 315/35's back there. for the front i think im staying with the usual 35mm set. i hung one of my 40mm offset 18"s up there and its way too far in. these fenders are wider then factory. i think i can bring the wheels out a bit more if i want wider tires up front.

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