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obscure factory features or options by av8fiero
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Is there a thread with as installed pics of rare unusual obscure features and options such as the 84 only floor vents, the 88 only rf shielding impregnated decklids, the 87 only single exhaust cut out coupe rear bumper cover, or the pre recall weather strips? What other obscure factory parts or rare options are out there? Do you have pics of these parts and pieces as they're installed on the car? If anyone has any pics of the features I described or any other strange fiero stuff let's see them

[I'm referring to the car and not accessories such as the fiero luggage, there are other threads for that]

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Power steering maybe somewhat rare.
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I'm talking actual production pieces, stuff that was released to the public. the EHPS system already has many threads about it
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There was a thread about a rally pack or something in 86 models where the map pocket is, some owners have seen an unused connector wired in for it.

About the weatherstrip. As part of the recall it was removed, but owners either put it back or or requested that they did not remove it. Removing it was a really dumb idea, all it does is crack the manifold.
My 86 didn't have the recall done, so it had the weatherstrip and the pre-recall air intake snorkel.

The recall also used a different PCV routing, the factory one uses the large tube in the back that goes to the air canister, after the recall its no longer used but is kept there because the smaller tube its attached to is still being used.
The PCV is then routed to the new air intake snorkel.

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-Performance sound system
-Stereo with push button volume controls
-leather shift knobs and steering wheels
-120MPH gauge cluster and aux gauges
-power mirrors
-fleece seats
-leather seats
-lumbar seats

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Originally posted by RWDPLZ:

-Stereo with push button volume controls


I saw one of those in my Friend's GT! That is a cool radio for 1986.

Gold SE's in 86 and 87 got gold colored 14" rims, compared to the standard silver.
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How about the engine block heater on the '87. Got one, but afraid to try it due to the slightly dried out wire and plug.
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Originally posted by Kevin87FieroGT:

How about the engine block heater on the '87. Got one, but afraid to try it due to the slightly dried out wire and plug.


Actually, thanks for reminding me. My dad's first Fiero, an 85 GT, had an engine block heater with a chopped off plug (it leaked so it was removed), and it didn't have A/C.

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My black 86 SE came from the factory with gold accent Hi-Tech wheels. Bought it from the original owner.

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Yes definitely the Rally Computer that never made it to production for the 1986 Model Year. On some 86 notchies, there is an unused connector above the heater box, below the passenger side dash speaker that has data inputs from the PCM, power, speed sensor, and the fuel sender wire goes there as well to calculate gas mileage. There was also a compass wire that was to run up the passenger side A-pillar to a compass sensor that mounted above the dome lights. The option RPO code was to be UV4.

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https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/111788.html
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...090219-2-084305.html

Has ANYONE ever seen this?

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Although the rally computer was never released, yes the plug for the rally computer is an oddity. What other oddities are out there?

Here's an obscure [not rare though] fact about Fieros: The center cooling vent in an 84 decklid was the largest cast magnesium component ever used [at the time anyway, maybe it still is] on a production car.

here's another oddball, there is 1 known factory blue 85 Fiero. I believe it was at Ed Park's place, but I haven't heard anything on this car in a long time. Does anyone know or have any new info on this car?


Anything else? How about some pics? Let's see this stuff

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I read (on this forum) that the electric rear-window defogger option (heater wires embedded in the rear glass) is a rare option to find.

I have an 88 GT with this option.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I read (on this forum) that the electric rear-window defogger option (heater wires embedded in the rear glass) is a rare option to find.

I have an 88 GT with this option.



I wouldent say thats rare. I've only owned 1 Fiero that dosent have that and 6 others that have.
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Originally posted by pontiackid86:
I wouldent say thats rare. I've only owned 1 Fiero that dosent have that and 6 others that have.


Well yes its not rare, but it is odd/useless, seeing how the engine does a great job of keeping the rear glass clear. What else? Let's see some pics of this stuff on our cars
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My Indy has a factory engine block heater and RPO code for it listed...wonder how many other Indy's had that!
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I had an oddley optioned car. 87 SE V6 Auto AC PW. No power locks or mirrors, No cruise no tilt steering wheel.
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87 blue v6 se's i crunched the numbers and statically there were only 48 built. Now that is doing the statical math on % of blue cars to the total number of card built backed up to the number of SE's built.
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Originally posted by mattwa:


I saw one of those in my Friend's GT! That is a cool radio for 1986.

Gold SE's in 86 and 87 got gold colored 14" rims, compared to the standard silver.


I've got that radio in my car and I really wish I had knobs for volume control. Its pretty annoying fumbling with the radio trying to adjust the volume while driving, knobs are definitely the way to go. Not to mention the lowest volume of the radio is still pretty high, so you need to shut off the radio if you want quiet.
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GT luggage rack.

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My Fiero is a pretty early 86, and it didn't have that connector for the rally computer. Is there any specific info on which 86's had the plug?

 
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I've got that radio in my car and I really wish I had knobs for volume control. Its pretty annoying fumbling with the radio trying to adjust the volume while driving, knobs are definitely the way to go. Not to mention the lowest volume of the radio is still pretty high, so you need to shut off the radio if you want quiet.


Well, ok, you got me. I said it looks cool, doesn't mean it functions well.

 
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GT luggage rack.



Yes! Good one. I do not see many of these.

and rear window defog is not rare. Its use-less. lol.
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What about the sun roof shade? Or an 87 se 4 cyc five speed
also on a somewhat unrelated note, 88 s were the only year to have lumbar i think. And of course there is the ever illusive cjb t top and ws6 sport suspension. Last what about the " fiero sport" model

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I have a set of WS6 springs in my SE that I pulled from an 85 GT. It had the WS6 code on the option tag.

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only on 84 models. my car was missing this spoiler. i didnt think it made a difference but it does. it keeps engine smells and noise out of the cockpit. it also draws air onto the manifold. it was taken off during the weatherstrip recall. so if you have a 84 i recommend you put these two items back on.
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Originally posted by 2.5:

Power steering maybe somewhat rare.


Somewhat??? your kidding, right?

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I've seen some pictures in 84' catalogs with some sort of screen over the motor. Theres also fiero luggage that supposedly came with early fieros and early fiero's that were badged with other names.
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Originally posted by mtownfiero:

I've seen some pictures in 84' catalogs with some sort of screen over the motor. Theres also fiero luggage that supposedly came with early fieros and early fiero's that were badged with other names.


The luggage was an accessory you could purchase seperately from an outside vendor, it wasn't a regular production option. There are other threads on the luggage and other aftermarket accessories..........Do you have any pics of this engine screen? also, I've not heard of any differently badged early production fieros, unless you're maybe talking about some preproduction prototypes

What I am interested in is the regular production oddball parts/options/features. For instance, I just scored the 84 only non a/c footwell vent setup, which I intend to try and fit to my 88 ac equipped choptop. I know the drivers side vent will fit, but the passenger side supposedly won't. I'll see if i can modify the passenger side to work for me. The 84 only black trunk carpet is another example, or the 84 only notched rear edge door panels. Those are the kind of things I'm talking about, factory parts you don't see on most Fieros.

Let's see some pics!!
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I have a parts car that is an 86 SE 4 cylinder auto, with the aero nose, side skirts and rear fascia, it has the dual megaphone exhaust (like the V-6 cars) from the factory.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I read (on this forum) that the electric rear-window defogger option (heater wires embedded in the rear glass) is a rare option to find.

I have an 88 GT with this option.


probably rare in CA, back in NY around 1982, it was mandatory for all cars sold in NY to be equipped with a rear defroster. My current 84 is originally a CA car and was the first Fiero I ever saw in person without a rear defrost option. IT's really not needed due to the engine right behind the window but on really cold days it does help a little to have it.
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Originally posted by av8fiero:. For instance, I just scored the 84 only non a/c footwell vent setup, which I intend to try and fit to my 88 ac equipped choptop. I know the drivers side vent will fit, but the passenger side supposedly won't. I'll see if i can modify the passenger side to work for me. The 84 only black trunk carpet is another example, or the 84 only notched rear edge door panels. Those are the kind of things I'm talking about, factory parts you don't see on most Fieros.

Let's see some pics!!


I have a good black trunk carpet and the vent system if anyone is interested, also have a defrost rear window but not sure if it is worth pulling out.

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Originally posted by 2.5:
Power steering maybe somewhat rare.


Rare indeed.

I've read that maybe one or two cars from the entire 1988 run actually left the factory with the power steering.

 
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1988 was a big year for the Fiero. Pontiac engineers had finally gotten the money they needed to design a real suspension for the car and it debuted on the 1988 models. Contrary to rumor, Lotus did not design it. The all-new suspension drastically improved the car's handling and eliminated all of the old suspensions problems, like excessive bump-steer. The '88s were also supposed to get a new electro-hydraulic power steering rack, but GM decided at the last minute it wasn't ready yet and pulled it off the cars. 88 also saw a stripped down Formula model, which was basically a base car with the GT engine and suspension. Also special for the '88s were T-tops, in addition to the sunroof option.

That's from a nice little writeup of the Fiero from concept to end (1988) from Scott Evans that I found about halfway down this web page:
http://forums.motortrend.co...iac-fiero/page3.html

Here's a link to a photograph of the Fiero electro-hydraulic power steering unit that ALMOST made it into production in 1988:
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Originally posted by av8fiero:


Well yes its not rare, but it is odd/useless, seeing how the engine does a great job of keeping the rear glass clear. What else? Let's see some pics of this stuff on our cars


how well does it work with a recall strip?
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Originally posted by americasfuture2k:


how well does it work with a recall strip?


It works very well with the recall strip, no need for the de-fog option.
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What about trunk carpet without a light pocket cutout? Ive managed to find a couple but they dont seem to be very common.

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ive heard and noticed, its just been 84's that have no trunk carpet. i like it like that better.

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Originally posted by americasfuture2k:

ive heard and noticed, its just been 84's that have no trunk carpet. i like it like that better.



Every single Fiero made had trunk carpet, but a lot of them in 84 was black carpet instead of grey.
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Originally posted by mattwa:
It works very well with the recall strip, no need for the de-fog option.


Not to derail the thread, but I've used the rear defogger on my Fieros many times. Not great for dealing with snow, sure; but it is a great thing to have on cool spring or fall mornings, when there is a lot of moisture in the air. Used the one on the MIni Cooper I used to have quite a bit, and already used the one on my brand new Cruze a couple times. ∎
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Originally posted by mattman134:

Yes definitely the Rally Computer that never made it to production for the 1986 Model Year. On some 86 notchies, there is an unused connector above the heater box, below the passenger side dash speaker that has data inputs from the PCM, power, speed sensor, and the fuel sender wire goes there as well to calculate gas mileage. There was also a compass wire that was to run up the passenger side A-pillar to a compass sensor that mounted above the dome lights. The option RPO code was to be UV4.

Threads:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/111788.html
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...090219-2-084305.html

Has ANYONE ever seen this?

Matt



Cool. That would be a good hookup for a CarPC, or aftermarket sensors. The Fiero ALDL plug will turn of timing advancement when it's plugged into a laptop, so it's not useable for a car when driving.
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doh! i ment had no trunk light. hands were thinking something else when i was typing.
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Cool. That would be a good hookup for a CarPC, or aftermarket sensors. The Fiero ALDL plug will turn of timing advancement when it's plugged into a laptop, so it's not useable for a car when driving.


I dont know where you got that info, but when I plug it into my laptop, it works fine and runs fine as well. I have seen timing advance of up to 44 degrees. You have to connect pins A and B with a 10Kohm resistor and NOT a solid wire, as this would tend to cause the car to go to base timing.

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Steel rack bushing in the 88 steering rack. Somewhat rare. Most are plastic.

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Rodney Dickman

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