Has any of you put side pipes on a fiero i know that you would need to run the exhaust forward to make them work but i am wondering how it would look on a GT
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Posts: 859 From: Powder Springs, Georgia Registered: Nov 2006
Chris Munson ran side pipes on his car. They were loud and they would melt the rocker panels. He removed them. Somewhere I have photos of his set up, if you want them.
Chris Munson ran side pipes on his car. They were loud and they would melt the rocker panels. He removed them. Somewhere I have photos of his set up, if you want them.
It wouldn't look good to me, but i suppose one could put a set of fake ones on there to avoid the melting plastic problem.
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Posts: 450 From: Bismarck, ND Registered: Mar 2010
I have seen issues with side pipes in the past continuously covering the rear wheels in exhaust soot. (diesel, but if your car brns oil....) Given the right clearance, shouldnt melt the rockers. They are right under a plastic bumper right now... I would think that two small rectangular tips sitting flush with the rocker panel would look good. I would try to modify the panels so that the tips could be recessed up into the rockers so that the bottom of the tips are flush with the bottom of the panel as well. cover the unseen things with heat tape and then make a nice s. st. trim piece to protect the outter plastic and should look good, IMO.
Would also have to replace rear bumper cover with a custom one too since the exhaust cut outs will look goofy with out tips in them.
I am FAR from a photo chop expert and this is just my quick 5 minute rendering in "paint" while im supposed to be working... Note the chrome rectangular tips flush mounted in the rocker panels, stainless steel trim panel (with small rivets holding it on), and the shaved rear bumper.
I have another idea that would be easier too, but outta time for now. Put the same thing or similar in the side of the rear bumper.
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fierosound Member
Posts: 15227 From: Calgary, Canada Registered: Nov 1999
I think they have always looked good on various cars when designed into the car (not just hung from the bottom of the car) and would look good on the Fiero. My dislike for them is them is the sound, I don't like the sound due to the outlets being separated by the car. 4 cylinders popping per side is bad enough, 3 cylinders per side would have to be worse.
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Originally posted by fierosound:
Well, it would have to be done tastefully, this is not! The pipe would have to be designed into the area where the lower aero trim is now located. ...and a first aide kit would have to be kept handy to treat the frequent leg burns.
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Posts: 450 From: Bismarck, ND Registered: Mar 2010
side pipes would look great but I think it would hurt your performance due to the ram air intakes. Not 100% positive though and with drag it might not matter at all.
Thats about the only thing you could do and have it look right. To far back and its going to look fake to war forward and its going to look retarded. And also most state DOT regulations state the the exaust of the car must exit from behind the rear wheels for road use and beleave me if your cops are anything like my cops you will get pulled over cited and instructed to remove them.
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Posts: 15227 From: Calgary, Canada Registered: Nov 1999
Well, it would have to be done tastefully, this is not! The pipe would have to be designed into the area where the lower aero trim is now located. ...and a first aide kit would have to be kept handy to treat the frequent leg burns.
Was the OP talking side pipes as in the photoshopped picture I posted or a side EXIT exhaust as in the pic posted by IMSA GT?? I guess it's not clear...
I had side pipes years ago on my Barracuda. No leg burns - they're insulated and/or have a heat shield to prevent burns if you accidentally lean on them.
With the Fiero the engine coolant pipes are behind the aero trim, so tucking the side pipes in tighter would be difficult if not impossible. The BIG problem is bringing the exhaust to the front of the car, and doing a 180 degree turn into the side pipes behind the wheelwell. Basically not very doable. Side pipes are geared for front engines cars like Cobra, Corvette etc. where it makes more sense with the engine layout.
Dumb idea. Everybody would look at the side pipes and say "Hey, wait a minute. Isn't the engine in the BACK of the car????"
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I can see someone saying the full side pipe looks rediculous, but I cant imagine why anyone wouldn't like this... Would be easy too, just re-route the piping out of the stock muffler infront of the tires. Its a poor photo chop, but I like the way it looks...
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Posts: 5309 From: Morriston FL Registered: Mar 2006
I can see someone saying the full side pipe looks rediculous, but I cant imagine why anyone wouldn't like this... Would be easy too, just re-route the piping out of the stock muffler infront of the tires. Its a poor photo chop, but I like the way it looks...
even i have seen more than one person with side outlets for the exhaust on a fiero.
and as far as the true side-pipe look, if thats what is desired it is an easy solution... build a fake set of sidepipes, and have the exhaust just come straight out the side lining up with the tip of the fake sidepipe. would look like it was a real sidepipe, but would sound normal and save the trouble of putting all the extra piping in
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madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
I can see someone saying the full side pipe looks rediculous, but I cant imagine why anyone wouldn't like this... Would be easy too, just re-route the piping out of the stock muffler infront of the tires.
No, it wouldn't be that easy. As was stated above, the cooling tubes that run from the radiator up front to the engine are right in that area. I agree, it looks okay, and is doable, but not without a lot of "engineering" to make it work.
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ManMadeChickens Member
Posts: 553 From: Clackamas, Oregon USA Registered: Jun 2006
I put a 3 foot Cherrybomb in place of of the cat on a Fiero race car, it came just a couple inches short of the rocker... a 3" exhaust tip, and it was perfect. I got a 45 degree bend 3" pipe to aim it just down and back of straight out. It's insanely loud, but sounds niiiiiice.
Here's a video taken with a cell phone camera. Sound does no justice to the "feel it in the chest" sound this thing makes.
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Patrick Member
Posts: 38455 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
Very similar to the setup above is on the GT owned by club member Capt Fiero. Big difference here though is that it's a nasty 4.9 pumping out noise from the side.
I drew inspiration from his writeup. In fact, if this cherry bomb is too loud for the series we are going to race in, I think it might get a round muffler like his did.
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Australian Member
Posts: 4701 From: Sydney Australia Registered: Sep 2004
We all agree behind the wheels is only option. However the four outlets on a GT give it the agressive look i am reluctant to ever want to take this away. Besides it has become rather trendy in the year 2010 to have twin exhausts on cars so why not look so dated for once and enjoy the stock location.
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Very similar to the setup above is on the GT owned by club member Capt Fiero. Big difference here though is that it's a nasty 4.9 pumping out noise from the side.
I have always liked Laker pipes. In a front engine car they make sense. True duals, less pipe, and nice chrome dressup.
On my GT when designing true duals, I looked at what it would take to do it. From a design point of view there were allot of complications. Ground clearance if I went under floor pan, some creative body work if I went out through the ground effects to the side.
From a noise level point of view, it was probably too loud for my neighbourhood (yeah I'm one of those Fiero guys who likes to have good relations with the neighbours)
If using true duals, it is actually harder to pipe the exhaust forward then rearward, given the geometry of the cradle.
I ended up using the stock exhaust notches.
All that aside, if you are running a crossover down to the stock CAT position, an engine can survive nicely with 1.5" true dual pipes. 1.5" pipes can be tucked in pretty well if you insulate the floor above them. You would not want the big Laker pipes used in Camaros but you could fab up some yourself out of smaller tube and have them plated.
I think it is do-able for somebody. You should bear in mind though, that anything over 6' of pipe will kill your exhaust pulses and the smaller the pipe the higher the pitch of the sound coming out.
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Posts: 3856 From: Madison WI, USA Registered: Sep 2009
Originally posted by pontiackid86: And also most state DOT regulations state the the exaust of the car must exit from behind the rear wheels for road use and beleave me if your cops are anything like my cops you will get pulled over cited and instructed to remove them.
The exhaust must exit to the top, side, or rear of a passenger compartment.
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Posts: 38455 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
