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Custom parts for a custom (heavily discounted) price - any interest? by toddshotrods
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Originally posted by toddshotrods:

I am curious too, as the ones being offered from the Canadian company are pretty reasonable for that type hinge.


Got more info on that Canadian company?
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I'd be interested in the dual intakes (as mentioned by TopherTime) and possibly the 16 gallon gas tank.

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Got more info on that Canadian company?


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I have (8) files of plans and pics of the gas tank and sent them 3 times (!) to your e-mail (info@toddshotrods.com) and got them back every time - I give up

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https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F.../HTML/063822-10.html



Thanks, but from what I read that company doesnt look so promising.
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I have (8) files of plans and pics of the gas tank and sent them 3 times (!) to your e-mail (info@toddshotrods.com) and got them back every time - I give up

??? I received what I assume was the first one you sent. It had six .doc attachments which opened perfectly in Word. I apologize for the delay in communication to let you know I had received them. I don't know why the others were returned to you!?! I do need to upgrade my business email account to have more storage capacity, but it is not full at this time. If you have more files to send, in addition to the six I have, and the files sizes are exceptionally large I can give you another email address to send them to.

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For those waiting for more information, 3D models, and estimates, I am working on them. I have some things I need to do this week on the Remix Vega project to get the momentum going on it, and another customer's project that I need to finish and deliver ASAP.

I plan to get going on the intake models, and I will try to post some of the exotic hardwood pics, etc., this evening...

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Originally posted by toddshotrods:

For those waiting for more information, 3D models, and estimates, I am working on them. I have some things I need to do this week on the Remix Vega project to get the momentum going on it, and another customer's project that I need to finish and deliver ASAP.

I plan to get going on the intake models, and I will try to post some of the exotic hardwood pics, etc., this evening...



Take your time, I'm in no hurry (Doctor's orders, just got surgery done) so I don't expect you to be, anyways, looking forward to see the pics.

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Originally posted by MattMan:

The hand carved one would probably suit me fine, but if there is an interest from others a branding iron would be the way to go. I am very interested in seeing the harwood pics you were talking about! Thanks!

Here are a few...
Curly Maple



Burled Maple



Birdseye Maple


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I would also like a wood shifter knob (manual transmission). But my interior is walnut. If you can't get walnut, you could use a light-colored wood (like pine), and I can stain it. I ended up doing that with most of my interior pieces, so it's no big deal. The shape of the stock Fiero shifter will do just fine.

Oh, I almost forgot to mention: I'd like the knob to be unfinished. That way I can finish it to match my interior. Thanks
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Originally posted by Blacktree:

I would also like a wood shifter knob (manual transmission). But my interior is walnut. If you can't get walnut, you could use a light-colored wood (like pine), and I can stain it. I ended up doing that with most of my interior pieces, so it's no big deal. The shape of the stock Fiero shifter will do just fine.

Oh, I almost forgot to mention: I'd like the knob to be unfinished. That way I can finish it to match my interior. Thanks

Actual Walnut is not a problem. I would suggest using it instead of staining pine, nothing matches the grain of real hardwood. Can you post some pics of your interior so I can see the wood, and a pic of the stock knob. I don't leave anything stock and can't remember what they look like

Walnut


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One thing I need to know is the thread size and pitch for the stock Fiero (manual) shifters. Anyone?

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could you make billet aluminum front hubs for 84 to 87 chassis ?all you have to do is replicate an original hub with the disc cut off and make them fit the stock bearings and races .you could change the size of the centre ring to suit corvette discs etc .for my setup , a copy of stock would work best .
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could you make billet aluminum front hubs for 84 to 87 chassis ?all you have to do is replicate an original hub with the disc cut off and make them fit the stock bearings and races .you could change the size of the centre ring to suit corvette discs etc .for my setup , a copy of stock would work best .


Sure can. They would probably be relatively expensive though. There's a significant amount of CAD work to model an accurate part, that would be whittled from a fairly expensive chunk of aircraft-grade alloy, through a multi-phase CNC process (more expensive due to more setup time being required).

I was going to suggest Street Dreams knuckles and hubs, as they already have all the development work done, but the link to their webpage is not valid anymore!?!

Another more cost feasible option is I can turn a pair of stock rotors down into hubs. You would still need hub center adapters but they would be fairly simple to make.

If you don't mind the cost and want the custom setup, I am ready when you are I am not trying to discourage you from spending whatever you can afford, or to convince you to do it a certain way. It's just natural to assume that cost is a factor with a relatively low-cost car as the base.

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Finally got around to cutting the end of the rack shaft down and threading it. Here is the narrowed rack assembly. I am going to turn oil-impregnated bronze bushings to fit in the ends, and make custom boots. The inner tie rods will be replaced with new ones eventually, and the outer te rods will be replaced with road ends and custom bump steer adjustment bushings.

Next up, before all that, I am going to narrow the FIero crossmember and get it set up on the vehicle.

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todd if you get the mock up of the 3800 intake i will take it to club gp and get a better idea of ho many people would be intrested.
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Sounds good Chris. I hope to get some work done on both intake models this weekend. I would like to do a couple different versions of each. Basically, a lower-cost model that will require less expensive materials and less labor to assemble; and a higher-end model that takes advantage of available resources to create a better looking part.

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that sounds awesome. do you have access to a 3800sc block? i guess with the lim i have you could just make a jig that will bolt to it and go from there there are a few water passages
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Nope, I don't have or have access to a block, but you hit the nail on the head. I planned to create a fixture to hold the lower intake just as it would be on the engine, and position the runners, tube, and TB flange. As long as you communicate or show me the water passages and other necesary items I can accomodate all that.

One question: would everyone be interested in using the Northstar TB?

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Just a little teaser to let you guys know that the modeling has begun. I started with the plenum because it is the part that can be used for both intakes (2.8 and 3.8). Next, I start modeling the runners...

The flange is generic. I have to model the proper flange for each intake. Which reminds me, does anyone have a Fiero TB lose that they can take a picture of of flange. I need a straight shot at it or the gasket so I can model a reasonable representation. I will have to get a real gasket to do the part, but for now a pic would work.

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Chris, I need some measurements from your intake base (the cut one). I need the overall width and length; and I need the height to the top of the flanges that bolt to the heads. You can measure that from a surface like the table its sitting on in the pics. I need the measurements to make sure the model is pretty close to the actual part.

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Sorry for the late replay, been catching up at work. Backside of a stock fiero throttle body.

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That'll work. If you get a chance a measurement, for reference, on anything there (the TB mounting flange) would help...

Also, don't forget these when you get a chance:
 
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Chris, I need some measurements from your intake base (the cut one). I need the overall width and length; and I need the height to the top of the flanges that bolt to the heads. You can measure that from a surface like the table its sitting on in the pics. I need the measurements to make sure the model is pretty close to the actual part.


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I haven't forgotten anyone, or anything promised, in this thread. I have my normal work load here, and most custom jobs require a bit of research. I am basically donating the research and design work in this case, as I normally charge for it, on an hourly basis, just like the actual work. From the requests posted here, I actually have some ideas for unique Fiero products that I might just take the risk on and see if anyone wants to buy them.

I have noticed that there is some interest in custom shift knobs, so I may try a couple of my own ideas. I found out that I still have a stock Fiero (manual) shifter arm that I can get the thread size and pitch from, and use to develop new knobs. I also have an auto shifter. It's not from a Fiero, but it's standard GM...

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...small ball manual shifter knob...fiero logo either burnt into the wood or scraped in and black washed and then clear coat varnished to seal it in...

Just a quick Photoshopped model...

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I am interested in the dual tb intake set up and have a middle intake I could send you if needed to help you make a mock up. I have lots of parts for what is needed just let me know.
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I love the vega but I am not fond of the mini head lights but the grill and over all design is AWSOME. I will be watching for the dual TB set up because that in my opinion is the way to go and if the price is right I will order one.
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wow i love the Camaro project!
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I love the vega but I am not fond of the mini head lights but the grill and over all design is AWSOME. I will be watching for the dual TB set up because that in my opinion is the way to go and if the price is right I will order one.

Thanks! When we started the project, the Mini Cooper headlights were a fresh idea. The project snowballed, and now the lights are becoming a common hot rod modification. I actually like the front clip better when the lights and grille are not in the car. I would probably modify the lights to get rid of the chrome trim ring, and have the lense flush mounted in the front fascia. The grille, tail light trim, and wheels would be black chrome if it was mine. I just told the owner today that he MUST get the car finished and out next year or some of the "cutting edge" work and parts will be ho-hum... With that in mind, I am not even mentioning any more modifications!

 
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wow i love the Camaro project!

Thanks again! You guys are making me feel all warm and bubbly inside I want to take it to a show next month, so hopefully there will be some new pictures of the car coming soon. The "design statement" is really starting to gel now.

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I am interested in the dual tb intake set up and have a middle intake I could send you if needed to help you make a mock up. I have lots of parts for what is needed just let me know.

Which one - 2.8 pr 3800? Definitely interested in the intake. Making these is not a big deal, getting setup to make them takes some time and lots of research. Anything to make that easier, I am all for.

 
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...I will be watching for the dual TB set up because that in my opinion is the way to go and if the price is right I will order one.

Why don't you guys chime in with a price you feel would be reasonable. Since there is significant interest in the intakes, I would like to see if I can develop a plan to do them for what this market feels is a reasonable price.

I am considering doing some type of custom intake for my 3100, that's slated to go in another project.

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Whats this I hear about a 16 gallon fuel tank...? I am interested in not having such a useless tank. How much will it be?
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I've been running the fuel tank through my head, thinking about how I would want to approach it. As soon as I have time to check out a few things I will try to get a price.

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crap i didnt see the part where you wanted somthing from me.i will get you the measurements and im trying to find a cad drawling.
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crap i didnt see the part where you wanted somthing from me.i will get you the measurements and im trying to find a cad drawling.


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Report this Post07-15-2007 03:03 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ceverhartSend a Private Message to ceverhartDirect Link to This Post
Mine would be for a 2.8/3.1/3.4 pr. My need is for a better breathing intake for my 3.4 pr. I have been looking at FrancisT's intake but like the dual tb setup better.
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Another late reply, but sizes for the throttle body mounting flange on the 2.8 intake.

General shape, pay no attention to the 68 camaro tail lights, that is another project


First bolt hole


Hole for tb


Second bolt hole


Width at it's narrowest point


Sorry for the very blury pictures, camera sucks and my hand is broken, so it's hard to stabillize it without a tripod.
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Originally posted by ceverhart:
Mine would be for a 2.8/3.1/3.4 pr. My need is for a better breathing intake for my 3.4 pr. I have been looking at FrancisT's intake but like the dual tb setup better.

Gotcha.

 
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Another late reply, but sizes for the throttle body mounting flange on the 2.8 intake.

General shape, pay no attention to the 68 camaro tail lights, that is another project ...

Thanks for the measurements and pics. What about the toes?

 
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...Sorry for the very blury pictures, camera sucks and my hand is broken, so it's hard to stabillize it without a tripod.

No problem. These are good. When I do the real part, I will use a gasket. The goal right now is communication. Everyone's feedback will help develop the intake, and the pictures will hopefully draw as many interested people as possible. I can do one at a time, but if there is a lot of interest and more than one at a time I would use a different process.
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Thanks for the measurements and pics. What about the toes?


They snuck into the picture I'll get an old rusty hack saw and take care of the issue
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