Originally posted by Posthumane: The 84 SE came in red, while the base coupe came in black or white (i think)
My 84 base coupe was red. It also had the econo 4 speed even though it has some options on it. (headrest speakers, tilt wheel) I think that they gave you the 4.10 when you started ordering power options.
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CoolBlue87GT Member
Posts: 8483 From: Punta Gorda, Florida, USA Registered: Apr 2001
Originally posted by Posthumane: The 84 SE came in red, while the base coupe came in black or white (i think)
I'm looking at the window sticker for my 84. It was red, and is listed as a sports coupe.
Base price 8,499 The Radio option UU6 was priced at 490 dollars !! It was an AM/FM/Cass with a 5 band equalizer and "Acoustically matched speakers" dual front & in the headrests
(that's how the sticker descripes it)
My Red 85 SE, base price 9,995 came with UM7 radio, priced at 207 dollars.
I had the dealer swap the radios, so somebody out there has an 85 SE with the 84 radio !!
It was a much better unit.
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MsBeth Member
Posts: 1002 From: Athens, AL USA Registered: Jun 2001
Originally posted by LZeitgeist: BZZZZT!! Wrong...
It was going to be called the 'Pegasus', and that's why the nose badge appears as it does. They took the time to change the name, but not the logo designed to go with the name they had originally chosen.
Actually you are both right ...there were quite a few names tossed about before they finally settled on the Fiero name.
Also many of the Fieros sold were sold to workers at the plant and employees of GM.
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MsBeth
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Indy-2M4 Member
Posts: 1024 From: Kettering, OH USA Registered: Nov 2001
Well, the radios in two of my Fieros (84SE and 87GT)will all of a sudden zip off of the station I am listening to and lock in on something else. The radio in the Indy doesn't work at all.
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Dumba$$ Member
Posts: 1679 From: Sioux Falls SD Registered: Jan 2001
i used to have a print out sheet, (i think the wife tossed it out when we moved -that p!sses me off!!!) that had every year and how many of each color were produiced all i can remember from it is there were 69,xxx red 84's made 2-bright red 87's (one was given away as a coke-a-cola promo. i think that there was 35,xxx white 84,s and it did list that there was 5-7 cars from each year that were set aside for experimantal colors, so that would probibly explane the blue 85, im not sure on ##'s butt i remember that there were only half as many gold 87's as there were 86's and i think silver was the rarest color for 84 damn i wish that i had that sheet, it was posted from the fiero-list and i printed it out
------------------ Rich Sioux Falls SD Red 84 SE Gold 86 SE 98 acura cl 3.0
4.9 caddy engine for sale 30,000 miles complete with bubba joes mounts!! $750
The "last two" Fieros produced were Red 88 GT's with T-Tops. They were given to two of the factory workers through a drawing. The inside of every body panel on the last 2 cars were signed by the employees at the plant. Sadly, the last 2 Fieros were not "numerically" ordered to be the last 2 VIN numbers... so they have since disappeared! I'm not aware of anyone who has been able to locate either of these car or their VIN numbers.
------------------------------------- The last Fiero rolled off the assembly line on August 16th 1988.
------------------------------------- During the 1987 Fiero Festival, participants were given the opportunity to drive their Fieros through the assembly plant! This has never been done by any other car club at any other automotive plant!
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Pyric Member
Posts: 951 From: Raleigh, NC, USA Registered: Nov 2001
Originally posted by JohnF: The bag also contained a stiff cardboard insert to prevent the lug key from tearing up the bag (I still have all 3 pieces).
I still have mine, and it's UNOPENED!!
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Originally posted by CoolBlue87GT: Here's that wheel lock container
Yup, that's it! Mine's not quite as mint as that, from 120K miles of rattling around in the car, but it's still unopened!
You should have seen the look on LZeitgeist's face when I pulled it outta the front trunk. "Wow, what's this?" as I start to rip into the bag.....
NOOOO!!!!!!!!! (as he dives for the bag.....)
Fortunately, LZ stopped me before I damaged the bag. Thanks, dude!
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CoolBlue87GT Member
Posts: 8483 From: Punta Gorda, Florida, USA Registered: Apr 2001
Originally posted by CoolBlue87GT: Unopened ?, gosh, you mean you didn't take out that 500 dollar rebate Pontiac put in there ? - Oh my, It expired just yesterday ! ha, lol
Nope, and even if it was still good, I don't think I'd open it up even now! It's still got the original Fiero "air" in the bag.
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CoolBlue87GT Member
Posts: 8483 From: Punta Gorda, Florida, USA Registered: Apr 2001
the Formula and the indy were the only cars that came base model with a wing.
the 88 V6 computer is the only one without a rev/ or speed limiter.
the formula is the only fiero that I have seen that did not come with a rear decklid button on the dash. key only (maybe thats why you can remove the key from the ignition while its on?)
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
Actually, you're not supposed to be able to remove the key from the ignition unless it's turned to "Lock" on most GM cars (as far back as '69, I think). This was a security feature. The reason you can remove your key with the engine on is because of wear on both the key and the lock cylinder. As an example, I got my '99 Grand Am in March of '99. Then I couldn't remove the key with the engine running. Today, 70K miles later, I can. This was true of my '72 Trans Am, too. I had new keys for my '69 Firebird, and I couldn't remove it from it's lock cylinder, but with an old set, I could. The only car I could never do that on was my '87 Grand National, but I sold it with only 42K miles, so it hadn't been worn enough to let the key come out.
If I remember correctly, when the 84 Fiero first came out in 83, it was only available in Red and White. Black and Silver were introduced later in the year. I remember thinking to myself back then, well, I guess all Fieros are gonna be red, cuz who would want a white sports car?
Also, the engine vent on the 84 (in the center of the decklid) was made out of a magnesium alloy and at the time was the biggest single use of decorative magnesium in an automobile (still is?).
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JohnF Member
Posts: 2622 From: Redeye's Ride is from D/FW, Tx. Registered: Jul 2001
the formula is the only fiero that I have seen that did not come with a rear decklid button on the dash. key only (maybe thats why you can remove the key from the ignition while its on?)
Huh? My '88 Tech 4 notchback coupe (not a Formula) has NO decklid button. Key only! I bought this car off the showroom floor when new.
The 84 fiero won several awards from metal manufacturing companies for it's use of magnesium metal over the engine compartment.(that wierd grated metal thing in the center) The only problem was in a fire once the magnesium caught on fire puting water on it only made it worse.
I have heard that all of the Indy's that were taken to the track for promotional use (104 total?), were labeled right off the factory assembly line with a windshield decal. Also, all of those cars were said to have documentation stating they were track promotional cars. It's said that some were just thrown on the seat, I heard of one that was stuffed under the drivers seat. The owner found it while pulling out the seat, years later. (Thanks for that one John! ) Lastly, all of the promo cars sent had automatic transmissions.
Can anybody verify any of this?
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kevin Member
Posts: 2722 From: Elk Grove, CA USA Registered: Jan 2000
Originally posted by CoolBlue87GT: There was an instruction sheet that was placed on the sunviser for the parking brake operation. Anyone still have theirs ?
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You mean my E-Brake wasn't broken? Oops
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Ayrow Member
Posts: 520 From: Indianapolis, IN Registered: Nov 2001
I had a cop tell me something interesting about the Fiero....
Much like the Corvette, he said that Fieros very difficult to pick up with a radar gun because of the fact that that are made of plastic and have such a graded hood.
I, personally, have had no trouble being picked up by radar guns in the past, but feel good thinking that the cop may have had to work harder to do it.
Ayrow
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06:02 PM
Ayrow Member
Posts: 520 From: Indianapolis, IN Registered: Nov 2001
Oh Yeah! Something else I remember from the Fiero that most people did not know:
On the later year radios, if you pushed two of the station memory buttons together, at the same time, they could be programed for a station.
In other words, there were five buttons if I remember correctly. Pressing button 1 and 2 simultaneously could be used for a program location, just like pressing button 1 and/or 2 independently.
Ayrow
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Fierobsessed Member
Posts: 4782 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 2001
my 84 indy has 7 presets on its stock radio. All fiero's frames are pre cut for sunroofs. The fiberglass top determined weather or not the car was to have a sunroof, and you can change them over. Fiero E brakes Rarely work, especially on automatic cars (who needs them really?) Indy fieros are the only fiero to have white mirrors, all other fiero's have black. The seat recliner handles break easily, usually at least 1 of them. AC almost never works unless it has been replaced. Headlight doors pop up at about 105-115 mph. fiero's can and do rust, they just dont show it. if your 84 is still around after 17 years, it probably will not explode into flames. There are 2 light bulbs underneith the ash trays. and there is an extra lower shifter position on the automatics, you can put in a overdrive transmission, just low will be 1 notch below 1. Dont do donuts in any fiero, the transmission can and will explode. Thats about all I can think of.
------------------ Matt D 1984 Indy Fiero (auto) 1985 2m4 V6 DIS 3.1 Auto
Originally posted by Fierobsessed: Dont do donuts in any fiero, the transmission can and will explode. Thats about all I can think of.
Eh?
------------------ -Alex 1986 Fiero GT, STOCK Wingless, President of FieroMontreal... www.fieromontreal.com and Regional Director of CFOG-I for Eastern Canada.
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Oreif Member
Posts: 16460 From: Schaumburg, IL Registered: Jan 2000
Originally posted by NOCONES: ...in a fire once the magnesium caught on fire puting water on it only made it worse.
Putting water on magnesium won't make it worse. Magnesium is very high heat, But if it catches fire there is no way to put it out. It has to burn itself out. Magnesium creates it's own oxegen as it burns. It is used in road flares and underwater flares. Flares are a mix of gunpowder and magnesium powder. If you want to make an underwater fuse, mix magnesium powder with the gunpowder on the wick and coat it in wax. Many aircraft use magnesium for the wheels.
I also don't think an engine fire can get hot enough to ignite the magnesium.
------------------ Happiness isn't around the corner... Happiness IS the corner.
My 84 is red.. and it has no decklid release button. (confused the heck out of me at first, only ever been in fieros with power decklid releases before...)
as for the not-so obscure fact... Marilyn Manson's first car was a Fiero...
The more I think about this, the more I come up with...
The inside of the Fiero was designed with a great deal of input from Phil Hill, one of the most famous race car drivers of all time.
Things that were thought of, especially in the V6's:
- The Stick shift is set high on purpose, to minimize the time the hand is away from the steering wheel, thus making shifting quicker and less dangerous.
- The gauges are set so that redline is at 12:00. Also 60mph is set at 12:00 also, if my memory serves me right. Why?? So one can see what's going on at a quick glance or by using peripheral vision. Race cars have been doing this for years - Hence the reason you usually see upside-down and/or turned gauges in them.
- The biggest complaint from the car magazines about the gauges was that they pointed two low and had way too much glare.
- The rear wings were the most prone to theft for ten years during, and after the Fiero's production. All it took was a strong tug to rip one off. They are still one of the most sought after wings.
- The rear wing, at it's time of creation, was the largest spoiler ever put on a production automobile.
- The sunroof (stock) was the largest removable sunroof to ever be installed on a DOMESTIC production automobile. Since then, the Corvette has surpassed it.
- The "bump" on the rear was added in '85 to make room for the V6. Since that time, all Fieros were included with this modification, regardless of the engine type.
- There was a large controversy surrounding the intake vent on the left, behind the driver's door - whether or not to add one on the right to even things out. Instead, Aldikati didn't want it to appear like the Mustang - creating non-functional vents that were only for show. So, they left it with just the one, making it functional as well.
-Ayrow
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rodmcneill Member
Posts: 1616 From: Indiana USA Registered: Oct 2000
Actualy pure magnesium will burn when put in water. The purity of the magnesium in the fiero won't obviously, but if you did get an engine fire that was hot enought to ignite the magnesium, it would be all over unless the fire department on hand had chemical retardant, and even then i don't know if that would work.
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rodmcneill Member
Posts: 1616 From: Indiana USA Registered: Oct 2000
Originally posted by Fierobsessed: Fiero E brakes Rarely work, especially on automatic cars...The seat recliner handles break easily, usually at least 1 of them. AC almost never works unless it has been replaced. There are 2 light bulbs underneith the ash trays. Dont do donuts in any fiero, the transmission can and will explode.
And with our thread on "obscure facts, we also get a lot of urban legends.
My '88 that I bought new (and still have) defies all these statements even after 123K miles.
When designing the headlights for the fiero it was decded to put the headlight in a cutout in the hood rather than up against the fender like the firebirds and trans am.
The reason for this is it is much faster and easier to center the headlight door in the hood cutout than it is to line up squarely to two other body panels.
