When a Fiero is converted to right hand drive the heaters stop working in 99% of conversions. Volvo steering racks are almost a bolt on fit in Fieros. 86 model Fiero GTs burn too if left in a burning garage
That weird black plastic thingy clipped under the hood above the a/c gear is a wind deflector that snaps into the slots vacated when you remove the sunroof. And the rubber strip under the hood holds the glass firmly in place when you stow the roof in there.
Boy did I feel stupid after riding around for a few days laying the glass in the rear trunk and getting wind blasted
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LZeitgeist Member
Posts: 5662 From: Raleigh, NC, U.S.A. Registered: Dec 2000
The locking lugnut/key set originally came in a light blue sealed plastic bag.
The decal sets for the 1984 Indy Pace Car Replicas came uninstalled from the factory, rolled up in the trunk of the car, and was up to the dealer to install. Some installed the decals before the cars were put on the lot, some left the decals in the trunk to be installed if the owner requested, some kept the decals and put them into parts stock to sell separately from the car and never told the owner that the decal set was included with the price of the car.
Goodyear Eagle GT+4's were the original stock tires put on the 1988 GT's and Formulas from the factory.
Original factory headlights (on the '88's, at least) have the name 'Guide' in the center of the lens.
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Pyric Member
Posts: 951 From: Raleigh, NC, USA Registered: Nov 2001
Most of you already know this... but the motors for the Fieros' headlights were originally taken from a firebird and put on opposite sides of the car. I.e. the right fiero headlight motor is the same as the left firebird motor.
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LZeitgeist Member
Posts: 5662 From: Raleigh, NC, U.S.A. Registered: Dec 2000
Some "factory prototypes" of the Fiero were labeled as a Mitsubishi Sprint (think there are photos in Gary Witzenberg's "Fiero" book).
The trunk was originally designed in the front of the car, with the spare tire being placed in the rear... the criteria was to be able to hold a golf bag w/clubs.
There does exist a set of "Fiero Luggage" (some forum member even has one) that was designed to fit/fill the trunk perfectly!
'84 Fieros didn't have clothing hanger clips behind the seats- later models did!
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malacite Member
Posts: 2213 From: Casselberry Fl 32707 Registered: Oct 2001
Originally posted by MinnGreenGT: '84 Fieros didn't have clothing hanger clips behind the seats- later models did!
Odd, I'm almost certain my '84 SE had them because I didn't want to put them back in. Well, I could be wrong, it might have been something a previous owner added, like the third brake light.
I think the 84's didn't have pockets on the back of the seats.
84's had the center stripes down the middle of the seats.
At least one 85 SE was blue from the factory. In another thread, there was talk of one of these Fieros had been found and is being restored.
[This message has been edited by Tigger (edited 12-05-2001).]
Originally posted by Tigger: [B] At least one 85 SE was blue from the factory. In another thread, there was talk of one of these Fieros had been found and is being restored. [B]
Original Blue 85 Coupe!
Apparantly in '85 there were 5-7(?) cars done with custom factory paint... they were voted on for the next model year's colors. I read (in the other thread I think...) that they were given/sold to factory workers! cool.
In 1984 so many fieros were produced that they ran out of the "turbo" wheels and had to switch to "Sharks tooth?" and steel wheels with trim rings. It is also alleged that this is the supposed reason the Indy Fieros possibly did not make it to the questionable 2000 possible units.... allegedly.
Oh and a credit card or like can be used to open a stuck fuel door.
Originally posted by LZeitgeist: Tigger wrote: Pockets on the backs of the seats? This is new to me... ::scratches head::
Yeah, kind like map pockets. I thought a long time ago I read it from forum before. Made sense to me because mine doesn't have them. Can anyone verify this? I might have picked up some mis-information.
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Master_Sushi Member
Posts: 1873 From: Oakville, ON Registered: Apr 2000
My 84se has the pockets behind each back seat. They are like a mesh and come up to the middle of the seat. They have a zipper at the top. I have seat covers on, so I dont use them. I have no idea what someone would put in them anyway. They seem pretty much useless. They are the orignal seats also, and they have the 84se stripe in the middle.
Originally posted by LZeitgeist: BZZZZT!! Wrong...
It was going to be called the 'Pegasus', and that's why the nose badge appears as it does. They took the time to change the name, but not the logo designed to go with the name they had originally chosen.
me wrong cant be got photographic memory
There wasn no pegasus badge on the prototype, i got pics but no scanner, just the pontiac symbol on drawings by stehrenberger
heres a bit from Road & Track Magazine issue May 1981.
"Currently code-named the P-car, it will probably be called the SUNFIRE and it will be introduced by the Pontiac Division of GM in the spring of 1982, which is not very far away. Although, it will be a 2-seater with definite sporty pretensions, it will be sold as a commuter car not only to attract fuel-conscious drivers but also to placate the brass at General Motors, to whome the terms sports car conjure up visions of racing and bad things like that. The Decision to sell the car through Pontiac was presumable made to dust off Pontiac's somewhat stuffy image, and the new model's introduction will just about coincide with the dropping of the full-size Catlinas and Bonnevilles.
If the P-car were introduced today, it would be priced under $8000, although no one knows what inflation will have done to prices a year from now.
The engine in the P=car is located transversely behind the seats in the manner of the X1/9. At the moment two throttle-body injected (TBI) engines are listed for the car: the 2.5-liter 4-cylinder Iron Duke and a Brazilian built 1.8-liter overhead camshaft 4-cylinder. Although, Pontiac is listing the 1.8-liter as the base engine, there's a strong possibility that only the 2.5-liter will be available at the start of production. Another possibility further down the road is a Chevrolet-designed 60 degree V-6, also with TBI, which we're told is currently pumping out approximately 180bhp in a P-car weighing around 2100 lb. That combination has the makings of a road burner the likes of which we haven't seen in ages and also the potential for a GM interdivisional squabble of monumental proportions. Chevrolet may be more than a little reticent to release such an entine to PONTIAC BECAUSE IT WOULD GIVE THE P CAR CORVETTE PERFORMANCE AT HALF THE PRICE. If the Chevrolet V-6 falls through, then an alternative is turbocharged (maybe supercharged?) version of the Iron Duke.
Chevrolet would certainly like an advanced 2-seater sports car to sell at less thean $10,000. Production of the P-car will be in the region of 75,000 the first year, ultimately rising to 100,000.
In electing to enter the 2-seat sports car market with a massproduced low price car, one might think GM is going out on a limb at a time when it has multitude of other PROBLEMS to deal with. However, the P-car fulfills all the requirements of an automobile for the Eighties: It is small, fuel-efficient, reasonably priced and, last but not least, it should put a lot of the fun back into driving.
This is a 4 page article, two pages is filled with a color drawing with the inside. The first two pages are prototype pics and one drawing.
If anyone wants me to type the entire article i can add it with this info and post it in another thread.
A) Fiero's are American B) Fiero's are very safe c) Fiero's are not too expensive.. most of them
------------------ -Alex 1986 Fiero GT, STOCK Wingless, President of FieroMontreal... www.fieromontreal.com and Regional Director of CFOG-I for Eastern Canada.
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LZeitgeist Member
Posts: 5662 From: Raleigh, NC, U.S.A. Registered: Dec 2000
O.K., I concede, although I'm wondering if it was a misunderstanding or misremembering by the author of the article... in all the time I've owned and loved Fieros (since 1990), I've never once heard that it was ever going to be called the Sunfire, only the Pegasus... interesting. Thanks for that truly rare tidbit.
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4BanGinFun Member
Posts: 1321 From: keswick Ontario Canada Registered: Oct 2001
fieros where used as a cop car too ricers will never get that
i removed the seats in my 86 se (sniff sniff miss that car ) and found a $600 repair bill on a bike and about 3 bucks in change and a victoria secret catalog under the drivers seat
also 84 did come in red i was looking at one a few weeks back with the 4spd and 85 se's didnt have 4 spds or the grates on the deck lid in the middle.
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www.angelfire.com/super/camaro0/
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Posts: 951 From: Raleigh, NC, USA Registered: Nov 2001
heres one that p!sses me off, in my 86 you can hit the trunk release with the ignition off or anytime unless in gear; butt in my 84 you need to have the key on!!! now that makes me mad, i have to dig my keys out of my pocket!! if i wanted to dig my keys out of my pochet id just put them in the damn trunk lid and unlock it
------------------ Rich Sioux Falls SD Red 84 SE Gold 86 SE 98 acura cl 3.0
4.9 caddy engine for sale 30,000 miles complete with bubba joes mounts!! $750
I understand that the car is now undergoing restoration under the supervision of Ed Parks of The Fiero Factory!
I'm sooo happy they saved that car.. damn it looks good :d ... Can't wait to see it when it's all ready to go!
Btw: I also have the original blue bag that the locking lug nuts came it .. infact.. it's still holding the locking nuts!
------------------ -Alex 1986 Fiero GT, STOCK Wingless, President of FieroMontreal... www.fieromontreal.com and Regional Director of CFOG-I for Eastern Canada.
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Dumba$$ Member
Posts: 1679 From: Sioux Falls SD Registered: Jan 2001
heres one that p!sses me off, in my 86 you can hit the trunk release with the ignition off or anytime unless in gear; butt in my 84 you need to have the key on!!! now that makes me mad, i have to dig my keys out of my pocket!! if i wanted to dig my keys out of my pochet id just put them in the damn trunk lid and unlock it
------------------ Rich Sioux Falls SD Red 84 SE Gold 86 SE 98 acura cl 3.0
4.9 caddy engine for sale 30,000 miles complete with bubba joes mounts!! $750
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Dumba$$ Member
Posts: 1679 From: Sioux Falls SD Registered: Jan 2001
heres another one, so you thought that there were only 2 designgs of notchback engine vents, 84-smooth, and 85-88 -were the vented style, whell 85 is a differant design to!! take a close look at an 85 vent then take a close look at an 86 guess what there differant, and not just the mesh, the actual vent is differant too.
The 84 SE came in red, while the base coupe came in black or white (i think). The SE had the stripe on the seat. My 84 does have the pockets on the back of the seats. And I think I have all of you beat because I found over $10 (CDN) in change in my center console (some is still in there cuz I couldn't reach it ). BTW, anyone know which vents those little levers under the dash open/close (labeled left vent/right vent) I can't see a difference with them pulled in or out.
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Dumba$$ Member
Posts: 1679 From: Sioux Falls SD Registered: Jan 2001
mice get into the trunk by going to the rear of the car, climb on the engine, run up it, jump onto the gasket, and climb in the trunk, then to exit, (i opened the trunk lid) and they run back and forth then climb the side of the trunk, run up the notchback clip, and jump from the roof of the SE, hit the ground and run into the weeds.... i took the time to try to find him after he ran into the weeds... how do i know this? i was working on the fiero when i watched the mouse go under the car and just watched... THanx Jason
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tomanyfieros Member
Posts: 2702 From: Albany, Ohio Registered: Nov 2000
also, under the arm rests, there is a little cap that goes there, they always fall out though.... they look the the caps on teh piece below the door.... i only have found them in one car, that was the indy... has anyone else seen/found these before?
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AkursedX Member
Posts: 2890 From: Lackawanna NY Registered: Aug 2000
Ok, change found in car wise I'm pretty sure I've got you all beat. I found about $4cdn inside the car. In the trunk on the other hand, I found an unknown amount of pennies. BUT - it filled TWO 2lb margarine containers! I've never counted it.
I also found a Chevron entry slip from late '87 (my cars an '87 BTW) for some contest.
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Useless trivia insertion - we all "know" that 87 & 88 have rounded trim while 84-86 have the ribbed trim, right? Uh uh... There's two guys in my club - one has an '87 with ribbed, one has an '86 with rounded!
Oh! more... some non-power optioned cars have the wiring for the power options (but no switches etc of course).
Originally posted by Dumba$$: heres one that p!sses me off, in my 86 you can hit the trunk release with the ignition off or anytime unless in gear; but in my 84 you need to have the key on!!! now that makes me mad, i have to dig my keys out of my pocket!! if i wanted to dig my keys out of my pochet id just put them in the damn trunk lid and unlock it
That was the point. The purpose of the trunk switch is so you don't have to remove the keys from the ignition to open the trunk. I don't know about 84's but if you pull the e-brake on later cars while the car is running, the trunk switch will work too.
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jelly2m8 Member
Posts: 6264 From: Nova Scotia, Canada Registered: Jul 2001
When I bought my 87, in the trunk there was a table lamp, 2 trivial pursuit games, a box of soap powders, an umbrella, various magazines, and a jacket!
After removing the interior, I found $23.xx canadian in total!
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Tigger Member
Posts: 4368 From: Flint, MI USA Registered: Sep 2000
