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i was up to 140 in my fiero when i got her. shes an 86 with stock susp. i really would not recomend it even on a calm day i sailed across a lane and a half on a 2 lane road. hope this helps.

i have a DOS program called cartest that alloys you to see all sortsa things that your car may do. judging by the CD, frontal area, hight, width, ride heigh, wheel size, max hp n tq at their rpm, the
redline, and gear ratios among a few other things, an 87 GT 282 with a stock numbers L67 is calculated to have a top speed of 158. i havent done what the L32 will do.

quote Originally posted by Justinbart: So a buddy wants to race me from 80-150 in his '08 cbr600. We have been grudge racing for many years. Any car he gets or modifies hasn't won yet. I have always been a step ahead. I've been ragging on him about this 600cc sport bike and how it will still be slower than me. I would much rather do a 1/4 mile race at the track, he would even have the advantage, but he is still new to the bike and afraid he will pull the wheel and dump it. He is convinced that we have to race to 150mph. I'm pretty confident that the faster we go the better I'll be but he doesn't believe it. I don't think I've been over 140mph before. Is my car going to take off and go air borne? I will pop my hood to try and release some pressure but still uncomfortable about this. I have 245/45-17 azenis on 4 corners and the car is lowered about 1.5"-2". Have any of you been over 150 in a stock areo fiero?

I'm skipping all the replies because I just now saw this thread for the first time. Maybe everything I'm about to type has been covered. Anyway.
Aero drag increases exponentially with speed. Once you have a combo geared for it's power and drag, to gain more mpg requires the amount of mph gain desired, times two, then that times two. This is a rule of thumb, not set in stone. The first place I saw it was in an old, yellowed issue of Hot Rod magazine from the 1950s, but I've seen it in many other references since.
Anyway, because of this, and the bike having far less frontal area to begin with, it gains more advantage by racing to higher speeds.
Then figuring in lift and downforce, the bike's main lift / drag area is the rider's back. Again, as speed increases, so does the bike's advantage.
By now, the race should have already happened, I'm guessing. So when I have time, I'll read the entire thread looking for the outcome.

quote Originally posted by Pete Matos: Well dobey, if you must know, the reason fighter pilots and many other pilots walk the runway looking for pebbles and other items is to ensure there is no FOD damage. Fod is Foreign object damage and a term usually relating to something that could possibly be sucked into the intake of a powerful jet engine. Pete

Exactly, all someone has to do it look up what happened to the Concorde to see what happens when something get's sucked into an engine.

or if you like gruesome, search youtube for "sucked into engine" to see how a jet cna jank a 180 pound guy 10 feet in the air and into a firey meat grinder.

quote Originally posted by lou_dias: Speed does not kill, ignorance and on occassion - chance/bad luck - does.

Very wise words!

Several know it all kids on crotch rockets already have killed themselves around here in west michigan. Passed one's splatter friday morning on I-96 the total idiot was splitting lanes at high speed when he lost it and body slammed the back of a minivan, and then was ran over by the car that was trying to stop from hitting him as he cut them off. Being ran over by a car with it's brakes locked up had to be a really crappy way to die. his body caved in the back of the minivan so far it looked like a giant punched it.

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quote Originally posted by Isolde: Aero drag increases exponentially with speed. Once you have a combo geared for it's power and drag, to gain more mpg requires the amount of mph gain desired, times two, then that times two. This is a rule of thumb, not set in stone. The first place I saw it was in an old, yellowed issue of Hot Rod magazine from the 1950s, but I've seen it in many other references since. Anyway, because of this, and the bike having far less frontal area to begin with, it gains more advantage by racing to higher speeds. Then figuring in lift and downforce, the bike's main lift / drag area is the rider's back. Again, as speed increases, so does the bike's advantage.

Except that it's the other way around... the car has the advantage at speed. A bike has a small frontal area compared to a car, but it has a very large coefficient of drag. At low speed, acceleration is determined by power to weight ratio. As speed increases, acceleration is determined by power to drag ratio. The car improves its advantage at speed because of this.

Drag force is related to the square of speed.
Drag *POWER* (ie, the power required to overcome drag) is related to the *CUBE* of speed.

That means that to increase a vehicle's speed by a factor of 2 takes 2^3 (ie, 8) times as much power. With 1/8 of it's rated power, the Bugatti could hit half it's current top speed. Those numbers would be 125 HP and 125 MPH... sounds similar to a Fiero.