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Project Genisis Lo Budget 3800SC by hercimer01
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I'm stripping the bumper covers because of spider web cracks in the old paint. Once i'm over these hurdles hopefully it will be smooth sailing. Knock on wood!



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The only thing that scares me about doing this project is wiring it.

I see a lot of cutting this wire, running that wire, this pin, and that C-500 or whatever connector, and I really don't know what that means or why it is being done.

Wouldnt it just be easier to take the wiring harness out of the Fiero, and install the one out of the donor car you got the engine out of Just use the switches from the pedals and such, and the IP, and you should be good to go right? Except for the transmission that is.

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The only thing that scares me about doing this project is wiring it.

I see a lot of cutting this wire, running that wire, this pin, and that C-500 or whatever connector, and I really don't know what that means or why it is being done.

Wouldnt it just be easier to take the wiring harness out of the Fiero, and install the one out of the donor car you got the engine out of Just use the switches from the pedals and such, and the IP, and you should be good to go right? Except for the transmission that is.


The two cars are way different. 1. The doner car has the engine the front whether Fiero has it in the back. So the wires are going the wrong direction. 2. The connectors are different so you will need to splice or felon connectors to get things to work with each other. It is really not as hard as salespeople think it is. Just take your time and if you get stuck there are plenty of people on here that can help.

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Thanks. thats an encouraging post. It's appreciated.

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It really isn't that complicated.
Detailed yes so keep good notes. I used Mike Gonzales prints spread sheets and marked every thing off in with a pink sharpie as i made the connections. This was the most informative thread I used. http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/113892.html

The thing that I had the hardest time wrapping my head around was how to run the wires or modify the donor harness. Finally RULOOKIN explained it best to me.
Which was to take the donor car's harness apart down to each component like the fuel injectors or coolant temp sensor and cut the wire at the computer leaving a 6 inch tail or so on the computer wire, Cut them staggered to different lengths so you don't have a stack of splices all in one spot. This is when you run the wire from each component with connector on the component through the car where you want how you want them routed and cut to length at the computer, most wires will be shortened but some will have to be added on to. Some people cut the wires to length at the computer and crimp on a new pin (nice but not necessary)

You will be removing the old computer from the fiero harness so you will have to reconnect things from the new computer back into cars wiring like the tail lights tachometer speedometer cruise and whatnot.

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I'm gonna be painting the car with the wing off and prepping the car to be wingless, I will paint the wing as to have it if I ever change my mind.















DP50, Bondo super thin skim coat block sanded, then 2 coats of Omni MP282 high build primer block sanded.



No Clear. Just 1 coat of base.

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Progress.





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It really isn't that complicated.
Detailed yes so keep good notes. I used Mike Gonzales prints spread sheets and marked every thing off in with a pink sharpie as i made the connections. This was the most informative thread I used. http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/113892.html

The thing that I had the hardest time wrapping my head around was how to run the wires or modify the donor harness. Finally RULOOKIN explained it best to me.
Which was to take the donor car's harness apart down to each component like the fuel injectors or coolant temp sensor and cut the wire at the computer leaving a 6 inch tail or so on the computer wire, Cut them staggered to different lengths so you don't have a stack of splices all in one spot. This is when you run the wire from each component with connector on the component through the car where you want how you want them routed and cut to length at the computer, most wires will be shortened but some will have to be added on to. Some people cut the wires to length at the computer and crimp on a new pin (nice but not necessary)

You will be removing the old computer from the fiero harness so you will have to reconnect things from the new computer back into cars wiring like the tail lights tachometer speedometer cruise and whatnot.




Part of my issue is that when I read a sentence like the one I quote in a sec, I dont know what he said... QUOTE:---------> I will be wiring up the 203 and 500 connections today. I counted 11 connections to the 203 (4 of which connect to pin K) making it 8 pins used on the 203 plug in the car and 4 connections to the 500 plug by the battery.

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Part of my issue is that when I read a sentence like the one I quote in a sec, I dont know what he said... QUOTE:---------> I will be wiring up the 203 and 500 connections today. I counted 11 connections to the 203 (4 of which connect to pin K) making it 8 pins used on the 203 plug in the car and 4 connections to the 500 plug by the battery.


The hardest part about doing anything is thinking about it.

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I ordered 2, four cylinder dogbones from TFS. They were out of the sixes at the time so i made these and got them painted today. I also got some other little goodies from ZZP today Credit goes to Loyde, I got the idea from one of his builds.Keep in mind the (engine) right dogbone is offset to accomodate 2 equal length axles on both sides.

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Aaaargh!!!
I broke my sail window trying to remove it.
I just ordered two tinted sail windows for it from Chris Cook. I have the door windows out so I can tint them.

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The primer is PPG DP50LF and Omni MP282 high build over that. With a thinned sealer coat of DP50LF over the block sanded high build.

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Well, there it is ready for paint. I sanded the high build with 320 because that's all i had for sand paper. I mixed up some more DP50LF and cut it thin with reducer and sprayed a sealer coat over the sanded 320. The DP50 should hide the sander marks I hope.



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black, nice.

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3 coats of clear!!!







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Those bumpers look fantastic!

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Very nice! Looks awesome bro. How big is your garage/shop?

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Thanks. I am wore out. Its been a lot of work. I want to take it to the Wisconsin Dells Run this weekend, We'll see. I ordered my quarter windows from Chris Cook, I don't think they will be here in time for that.

Two cars, I can fit my Tahoe and a Fiero in it comfortably with room to walk around everything.

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The rear clip is wet sanded and has to be resprayed with another coat of clear.



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I got the rest of the panels on the car besides the hoods. I also sprayed the rear clip. It is still masked and baking in the garage. I cant wait to get it sanded and polished.

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The trim moldings are just polished with 3M finesse. I used 3M machine glaze for the final buff.





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Yes I know i'm missing a lugnut, It has lock nuts.

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Wow.

What else can I say?

How much did this cost, start to finish?

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Here goes, I will use this text box to update the price tag.

1986 Fiero GT 49k miles with a blown motor
$900.00__

1998 GTP 130K miles whole car
$500.00__

Odds and ends
$119.00__Title
$35.00__Registration, Antique vehicle, 4 years worth
$14.99__Center console
$22.49__High temp paint
$9.98__Undercoat

$201.46__TL

Air intake;
$24.99__8132 Spectra air filter
$5.77__Drain pipe
$1.15__3" PVC coupling
$3.00__Clamps

$34.91__TL

Exhaust;
$119.89__Flotech afterburner w/shipping
$140.00__ Exhaust pipes
$6.99__Exhaust flange gasket, 1
$5.88__Tail pipe hanger universal, 2
$5.99__ Aluminum engine enamel,1

$278.75__TL

Brakes, Grand Am upgrade, rear only
$47.98__Brake hoses
$10.49__Brake pads
$45.98__Calipers
$39.98__Rotors
$20.00__Brake lines

$164.43__TL

Transmission
$7.49__Pax 560 brake line
$20.23__Trans cooler hose
$13.99__ Trans Filter
$29.98__Tans fluid, 2 Gal
$7.49__Gear selector
$10.99__Gear shift select cable
$12.00__Hose menders

$102.17__TL

Axles
$14.34__Half shaft
$9.99__ Grease

$24.43__TL

Suspension
$45.00__POR15
$120.00__Sandblast cradle
$51.98__FA1146 Rear lower ball joints
$25.17__7304 Control arm bushings Prothane
$48.57__7502 Cradle bushings Prothane

$290.72__TL

Engine
$350.00__FieroX motor mounts
$21.99__820K6 serpentine belt
$14.99__665K6 serpentine belt
$21.99__ 5W-30 Oil, 4 qts
$3.99__Oil filter
$1.99__ VS50465R Valve cover gaskets
$11.97__Fuel injector Orings
$4.99__61024 TBI gasket
$15.99__TU179 temp switch
$16.99__231086 Idler pulley
$50.79__MS98014T LIM gaskets
$1.99__MS95744 UIM gasket
$5.99__Black silicone
$4.44__Plug wires
$45.79__89367 Belt tensioner.
$8.99__15849 Thermostat
$4.99__Oil pressure sensor
$26.94__APP606 spark plugs

$614.48__TL

Electrical
$00.00__ Wire Harness self fabricated
$75.00__Pre programmed PCM from nosrac
$91.15__Battery
$4.99__Battery tray, stock
$2.98__ Electrical tape, 2 rolls

$174.12__TL

Cooling
$24.00__Coolant tee
$00.00__Filler tee
$49.99__Automatic radiator
$20.99__E72003 Radiator hose
$2.38__Heater hose
$10.98__Hose clamps
$9.99__Over flow tank

$118.33__TL

Fuel
$21.99__PT2352 ACDelco fuel pump pigtail
$18.76__Fuel hose
$79.99__Fuel pump (Airtex equivalent to EP376) ( I have since upgraded to an EP381 ACDelco fuel pump)
$14.99__Fuel filter

$135.73__TL

$3403.80__TTL
$1400.00__Minus cars

$2003.80__With out the 2 cars for just the various stuffs.

plus 7.25% sales tax

I think that is pretty much it. I will up date it as I think of more.



Not including paint or windows.

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Wow again. Thats not as bad as I would have expected, thanks. That gives me some hope.

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All that stuff laying on the ground around the car is stuff that was washed out of the car when i bought it.





















Man thats a nice rear end !!!

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Every time I open my garage door, I get a big cheesy grin. I've put over 300 miles on it and its ran great! (Knock on wood) I added the performance shift switch in the dash after I drove it with out it for a while, and it does make a pretty big difference. It's bone stock and scary fast as it is. I can't imagine what the mods will do like some of you guys have done like a twin turbo.

I got to ride in a new ZO6 with NOS. We went up to 120 MPH and back down to a full stop in a quarter mile and it was like slow motion, kind of like when you get arrested?

Edit; I ran 14.55@92.09 in the quarter mile today. I was running 100LL AvGas. http://www.jasonbphotos.com...1995230119&k=ztjz8mQ

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Its amazing the work you can do when you really apply yourself! I'm getting close to putting my engine together, definitely a lot of good info in here. Great build!

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Very nice work.
Love the install and the paint.

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I just won this on Ebay! It's a 3.4 pulley. Maybe I can get down to 13.5 in the quarter mile now.

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I didn't know it was an 8 rib pulley when I bought it. Do they even make 6? I looked for one and couldn't find one.

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Beautiful car.

A really amazing job of DIY work ! Very, very impressed.

That gorgeous ride just needs some aftermarket wheels and lowering and it will be a complete stunner.

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