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"concept GTR" dash build-up...Fie Ro style! ;) by Fie Ro
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Report this Post04-16-2006 05:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fie RoClick Here to visit Fie Ro's HomePageClick Here to Email Fie RoSend a Private Message to Fie RoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Yeah thats why I didnt do the speakergrills the same way....I hope the vent alone wont give too much reflection.

Ah I own page 10 !

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Very nice dash build-up. I too agree that the vent will become a good sun reflector. It looks cool though.

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Sunday I put the maindash back in place, hooked up only a few connectors..lol.. and took it for a drive. The vent does reflect some but it is very low on the windshield and not in the direct line of sight and it is not disturbing. I bet a painted fiberglass dash will reflect a lot more...and I try to stay in style


Got the speakergrills recovered too. Before mounting the dash there was some (re)wiring to tackle, wired the sidemirror blinkers but they didnt work at the first test (and the battery was low) will check that later, also did the "pegging temperature gauge" rewire.....not sure if it did anything because the gauge was dead to start with.

Mounted and tiewrapped the crossovers and speakerwires.....I have pushed them behind the dash for years and they kept falling down once in a while...done now!

Down to the midconsole, I have a shifter rebuild kit from Rodney sitting and this is the time to do it


The shifter assembly wasnt worn much but after the rebuild it feels a lot better.
Routed the vacuum line of the vac/boost(!) gauge and an always hot + for the 7-led gauges, so they remember the setting instead of giving the colorcycle lightshow every time I start the fiero..hehe.

more coming

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next is to hookup the window relays. Started with the passenger side in case I screw up

Woohoo, I made something electrical and it works!

Other side works fine too. I have been looking at several spots in the midconsole to fit these relays and wiring, best option is in front of the shifter; theres a lot of empty space there. Figured where to mount the relays to the existing bracket, 3 from this side

and one here. It also cleanes up the old mirror wiring around the shifter this way..

...hmm some tweaking..?

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I am so impressed with your skill and attention to detail, seriously way to go man.
Can't wait to see more pics, any chance of some full desklid shots, I wanna see how all the vents and grills look together.

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^ sorry I discovered I dont have many pics of these vents together... this shows how it works with the rearend...

and heres some pre-fitting of the passenger side dash...I guess it will make sense when everything is done, painted or upholstered




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Definitely turning out to be one of the nicest, if not THE nicest interior on the forum. Very tasteful and stylish, I like it

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Thanks cc4 My goal still is to make it look like some evolution Fiero dash....and maybe some bling in the details...

Ive been trying several glue-methods to get the vinyl stick and stay in shape. The regular carpetglue I used for the main dash is kind of brittle when its dried up and it still smells bad in the car, tried some professional spray on glue on an other part, it sticks well but doesnt hold stretched vinyl. Hot glue gun was the answer....Here I used the spray glue on the top and hot glue at the back to get a nice fit



Trying out one other idea to see how it will match with the TT vent...I call it the "Streak" I am not starting to buildup the doorpanels yet but just wanted to see how it lines up

its just a cheap piece 8mm diameter aluminium tubing, it will snap right into your doorpanel, could do some hidden mounting but I just used 3 bolts now

hmmmm...what if....yes a 5mm led is just a drop in!

might have to get some red leds now....lol..funny how these things pop up...

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dusted off the rear midconsole plug (aka subwoofer housing) and started to do some more smoothing and prepping for taking a mold hopefully in the next weeks




...got the right frame ready for the last coat of primer

and some paint. It needs another layer and some clear but it starts to look like this:


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WOW
very amazing work. keep it up

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damn its coming along great!!! Question, interior only, how much is this project cost?? What is your approximate cost for your completed interior? Just to give me an idea. Thanks!

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damn its coming along great!!! Question, interior only, how much is this project cost?? What is your approximate cost for your completed interior? Just to give me an idea. Thanks!


with or without the time invested...

your car is amazing. keep great work.

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Its hard to quote the costs.. Its not killing my "budget" for shure...I am not really keeping a record of the costs and what do you count in? The material costs only are not that high.....off course labour is the biggest bill if someone gets paid for it lol From my body buildup I learned some better planning and testing but it still takes many hours. The basic materials dont have to be costly....I guess the supplies of fiberglass/bondo/primer/paint etc maybe $200 so far, used TT parts (vents/shiftring/cluster) eehm total $200....3 aftermarket aux gauges shipped from the usa about $180, I bought the mrmike seats and the stereo setup more then 5 years ago...many of these costs are spread over past years And it comes down to your personal taste what you spend where...
So in short a basic custom dash buildup can be done without many costs but needs ideas and a lot of work to get it done nicely...all the bells and whistles are the big variable in such a project...

Oww, I owe an update on the subwoofer housing, next post

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from right to left: my old subbox, plug of the new one and a rough mold of it...and still no product lol.


I have long arms so when I built my first subbox I tried to build a small but efficient box...in the new design the sub is moved upwards so its even more ergonomic...time for layup

tweeked the front ring and the sub fits fine

I am cutting some corners because I want to finish it soon...I have to make 3 seperate pieces from one mold and extent some edges afterward so they fit well together

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Report this Post05-12-2006 07:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fie RoClick Here to visit Fie Ro's HomePageClick Here to Email Fie RoSend a Private Message to Fie RoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post

Took out the midconsole parts off the Fiero yesterday.....one reason: by accident (or luck) I used a slighty different paint # on the right dash part...but it looks much better with both the interior and exterior colors so I want to repaint the already finished midconsole pieces with the new color.
Second or main reason is to make it easier to mockup the new parts for testfitting, modelling, testfitting modelling and testfitting so thats the first job starting here


the start of completing this piece,,,cant wait to cover it.


... right now I have to hotwire every startup without having my usual switches! lol

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awesome work.

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thanks magot how is your project going?
I have a meeting tomorrow so thats some nice deadline to get some stuff done....did a lot today
cleaned up the interior lol

stripped most of the finished panels, wetsanded them with 400grit and did a repaint and clear. this one is just before paint

putting some of it together again

want to get that midconsole piece done...

hot glue, a nife and some vinyl....yeah I burned and cut my fingers a few times but damn its starting to look good!


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more close

little mockup in the fiero


looks I built some blingbling playstation controller lol...

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Your skills are really coming together, if you dont mind my asking how old are you?
You should get out and let people see your work so you can get the chance to share it with the world.
Thanks for taking the time and letting us see your work.
Jake

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thanks magot how is your project going?


Its not. Been to busy, but I plan on starting it back up soon. here is a rough draft, it looks better in my head.




it is going to be roundish. You guys will see, hopefully this summer. Thanks for asking.

Keep up your great work man. I love it

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Your skills are really coming together, if you dont mind my asking how old are you?
You should get out and let people see your work so you can get the chance to share it with the world.
Thanks for taking the time and letting us see your work.
Jake


Jake, I am 35, maybe young enough to have crazy ideas and old enough to have patience to get it done..
I put the finished and unfinished stuff in for the meeting...heres a few I snapped afterwards


Its gonna flow nice when its done...
Here are a few pics of todays meeting, parked next to Stan (my-fiero)

later in the day

7 more fiero's

About 500 american cars and classics attended today, I have a lot more pics but may post them in a seperate thread if you would like to see them..

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Enough fun, start working on the doors
The center arm rest looks great!

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Yeah I am pretty happy how it turns out, also the subbox doesnt interfere while shifting so form and function work well so far

Uhm youre right about the doors.... Ive been working on some ideas though
Here are the latest sketches:
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digi

still needs some tweeking and sorting but its coming closer to a startoff point for a buildup....

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Fantastic work! This is one of the best threads on the board. Thanks for the informative updates and keep up the great work.

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You're my newest hero! You've inspired me to go above and beyond what I was thinking of doing with my car and your choice of materials is awesome. I've been having some trouble trying to think of something to use as my head liner and the perf vinyl idea with subtle perf vinyl accents to tie it together seems like a great idea. Thank you so much again for sharing everything you've done and the thought process behind your work.

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Jake, I am 35,




LOL U OLD FART



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Jake, I am 35,




LOL U OLD FART



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This is really cool!!!

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what only 35
I'm 45 in december

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Ok, on to the doorpanels! I spent quite some time planning and looking how to mount the pieces and make them line up with the original panel because I will be reusing all of the original panel minus the map pockets. I like the way RCR (thanks Bob!) did his midconsole, basicly a frame with polyester cloth stretched to get the shapes, so I will try something simmilar because it could work nice for the armrest/pocket piece. First another photoshop to get the whole picture in my head:

I dropped the idea of an open pocket because it will be hard to reach for stuff with a shallow opening so it will get 'doors'....also did some mockup with cardboard to get an idea how to build it.

Back to the drawing board....to draw on the board..lol

cut pieces and a mockup

I never bothered about the original pockets but its kind of funny after all the tweeking to find it could fit like this too, its pretty close..

but that isnt the plan.......!


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The trick I am trying to do is to make a setup to make one side first and use the same wooden shapes in a setup mirrored to get the other side...will be using these pieces (bevel is the same on both sides), tape and saran wrap before cloth and fiberglass

I am only using hot glue for mounting and the cloth, its strong enough and still easy to take it apart later.

Another project is to start working on the shape for the CF insert

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I like the way RCR (thanks Bob!) did his midconsole,


Glad I helped inspire a true artist...

Bob

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lol, thanks! I learned something else today, before popping a product it needs some fiberglass to make it stiff enough, but you will lose detail...still need to do that even when I want to reinforce it from the back....the thing I learned is to choose the right fiberglass
Heres a comparison of one piece covered with a couple layers of fiberglass and one with woven fiberglass

the latter keeps the shape much better and the other needs a little more sanding now.
rough testfit, it needs finishing and more trimming but its going to look ok.

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Lookin' good.

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Fie Ro, no words...It's all been said B4, just a tip of the 'chapeau'.

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you have too much talent!!!

you should give some of it to me ; )

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Thanks for the nice words... I appreciate them everytime ...it keeps me going with this crazy stuff.....!
havent done much for backup though lately....lol
This is a sketch of the armrest and pocket door...

Some random pics
rightside dash (wideangle)

outside

today's outside view

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so when are you gonna make molds of your front nose piece?

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Ok I will take one in beechwood and RHD ok?

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Fie Ro,

Any chance you could post side by side, or on top of one another, shots of the computer generated concept you first came up with versus the nearly finished product ?

I think it would be an amazing comparison, and tribute to your workmanship.

Thanks.

Tony

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