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FINALLY!!, Yellow PPG GTP Pace Car has a new home in Iowa by RAREW66
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I am a little road worn after 1100 miles of truck and trailer driver's seat duty, but the excitement of having my newest addition to my Fiero collection home has given me enough energy to get this post started. I have 370 pictures from this week that I have to sort through and clean for the Forum. This will be a long post by the time I finish it. Not only do I have the car, but the history behind it is starting to come alive as I have been in contact with numerous people at GM who participated in the AutoStyle/PPG/GM joint program. My friends at GM tell me that I am one lucky guy to be able to legally own a car that was a former GM Prototype/Promotional vehicle. The car is one beautiful machine to see live and up close. I will start with some general pictures tonight before I go to bed.

Love at first sight:

I officially took posession of the car on April 07 at 8:32 am:

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YOU SUCK !!!!!!

j/k Just keep me in mind as the first to inherit it from you

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What is the story behind it? Previous owners, and how you aquired it. And how much did you pick it up for?

Looks like fun!

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At 9:30 on Friday morning, I had the opportunity to take these historically significant pictures. This is the first time that the two cars have been together since 1988.

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Awesome! I wish I had one just like it.

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Much more later.........

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WOW

get them pannels off, and lets get some molds started

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Looks great Fred.

I love the look of this photo here:

Iím still working on some stuff that we talked about earlier, and I should have some time here in the next week or so to see a bit more about it. As of late, I have not been impressed with that to which I have seen to date, so the search goes on.

Congrats again, and HAHAHAHA.....I knew about it FIRST....I just had to keep my mouth shut, and that was not easy to do, as I LOVE THAT CAR!

Congrats again!
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Holy **** !! How'd you get your hands on one of those babies???!!!!
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so what is the story behind this car? are the modifications skin deep? who made it? how many? i would love to know more about them, they look awesome.
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Will either of these make the trip to the Dells this year? Would LOVE to see them in person!
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I am glad you got it home finally! Looks great in safe hands. Give me a call and let me know if you found the other thing you were looking for.

Now you need to help me talk them out of the red car.

Talk to you soon.

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Fred,

Congratulations!!!!! I am very happy that you were able to get this car. It is going to a very good home, in the hand of someone who will take care of it and let everyone in the Fiero community enjoy it.

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I can't think of anyone else that i would rather see have that car !! I'm looking forward to seeing it in person, Congrats Fred !!

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Looks like there is a few burn outs behind the old GM "Toy Store" bldg. in those pictures....

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Fred,

You're probably still asleep after the trip.

Great snag.. Impressive find/buy

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congrats Fred...!!! I'm glad you gotthe car after what you told me at the meeting in IL...It's in a good home now..

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WOW VERY NICE FIND. now if we can only get someone to reproduce the body parts for this car.

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Sweet !!!!


Can I drive it???
How many miles on her???

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Originally posted by eatoninside:
Holy **** !! How'd you get your hands on one of those babies???!!!!

I think how'd he get his hands on "TWO" is more like it!!!

Very nice indeed. Splish *Splash*, give 'em a bath in fibreglass!

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WOW!! thats all i can say. Congrats on being able to snag such a rare Fiero. We'd still love to hear how came came to get such a gem?
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Congrats Fred!!!!!!

looks like it's time for a jaunt over to Davenport for a little sight seeing

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My girlfriend says its not fair that you get to own both of the PPG cars.

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Originally posted by p8ntman442:

My girlfriend says its not fair that you get to own both of the PPG cars.

AFAIK, the blue one belongs to GM, whom he works for. How he got them to bring it out is beyond me, connections I guess.

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FANTASTIC!

Now you be sure to bring it along to the next big Fiero Show!

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Fred - I have to say that your email awhile back about this very subject definitely made my day. I can hardly wait to see your restoration project.

You now own my favorite Fiero!

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If memory serves me right, I believe there were 5 PPG Fiero's all together.

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Originally posted by CosVegFiero:

If memory serves me right, I believe there were 5 PPG Fiero's all together.

Dick

I thought there were 6

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Awesome.

What I would like to see is a version of the PPG nose made to be a bolt-on for the Fiero. Who ever could pull this off would sell a TON of them. Direct bolt-on, very little prep needed, use all your exsisting parts, turn signals and side moulding with marker light.

The PPG has wider fenders, so it would have to be slighty narrowed / modified on each end.

I like the PPG nose because it's shaped attractively like most cars and looks like it belongs. The stock GT nose is freaking ugly because it had that "sled" effect, shoe-horned upward, and missing half of the ground effects. It looks unfinished.

What would be REALLY nice would be to eliminate the split grill and give the PPG nose a centered grill for better cooling, it would also get rid of that 80's Sunbird / Firebird look, and would also allow for turn signals to be placed on both sides, like this...

Or like this.....

There were 6 cars BTW...

From the side profile of that first red car, look how much more attractive the front of the Fiero is with a "normal" nose that ends, goes straight down, and slightly tucks back under the car with ground effects that match the rest of the body. It's continous and flowing. The driving lights is the iceing on the cake. It's no wonder 99% of the cars on the road today look like that. Look at all the BMWs, sports cars, and other flashy cars on the market. They all have a nose that is generally shaped like the PPG nose.

I always thought the stock GT nose "sled effect" made the car look cheap. The Fiero GT has a beautiful body style that is timeless, but the nose has always been the most dissappointing part of the body.

It screams CHEAP!

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Skybax, I actually think exactly opposite. I think its a shame that every car on the road has a "snub" nose style. NO ONE is different like the Fiero was with the bullet nose.
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BTW: IF parts are ever pulled for reproduction panels - please don't change a thing... let the buyer modify them as desired. As for me - I'll be the first with the Green one
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Other then the two shown here do any other ones exist?
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Great Find !!!!

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Nice! That is a cool car!

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Awesome! ! ....congrats Fred, you are a very lucky guy. Remeber that tread about a PPG car that was in posetion of a high school auto shop class? BTW you wouldt happen to have any pics of the egine and turbo...
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...Lipspoilers....

You should see if you can get ahold of the original roof. The one with the light bar on top. That would be sweet.

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Originally posted by Fierokid87:

Other then the two shown here do any other ones exist?

Yes. I can't find the thread, but someone took a bunch of pictures of a PPG Fiero that was donated to a un-named highschool It was the red one. Anyone know that thread? It wasn't that long ago.

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Wow! i just..Wow!

You have got one speacial car there! enjoy it. Few get to own such a rare and unique car that is part of the history of them.

outstanding!

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Yes. I can't find the thread, but someone took a bunch of pictures of a PPG Fiero that was donated to a un-named highschool It was the red one. Anyone know that thread? It wasn't that long ago.

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20050410-1-043815.html

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This is gonna be one of those threads that ruins a lot keyboards as we drool all over them looking at the pics
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