And a phony shill neocon. He's the shill that the portion of non-conservative GOP string pullers want filling a gap left by Limbaugh to steer the group of moderates who listen to him. His voice is very annoying. He also says he doesnt believe in Jesus as Son of God.
Originally posted by sourmash: And a phony shill neocon. He's the shill that the portion of non-conservative GOP string pullers want filling a gap left by Limbaugh to steer the group of moderates who listen to him. His voice is very annoying. He also says he doesn't believe in Jesus as Son of God.
Is that just a round-about way of saying that Ben Shapiro considers himself a Jew--an Orthodox Jew--and not a Christian? Or is there some other reasoning that makes it remarkable that Ben Shapiro has said that he doesn't believe in Jesus as the Son of God? IMWTK.
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The Republican voter group is a largely Christian contingency or has a belief in Jesus Christ as God. A person who is belligerent to that belief who is PROMOTED as a voice of leadership for that group should be openly presented as such on the subject of Christ.
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That was inspired by a news report that was published in the U.K.'s DailyMail :
"Good news, we DON’T live in a hologram: Radical [physics] experiment dismisses bizarre theory that our world is an illusion" Ellie Zolfagharifard and Mark Prigg for the DailyMail; December 4, 2015. https://www.dailymail.co.uk...-world-illusion.html
A few minutes of light reading for any non-specialist (like me), with a few "visuals." It started with this:
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The bizarre theory that we live in a hologram has been dismissed in a year-long experiment.
That was an overstatement. The experiment provided evidence against one particular version of the "Universe is a Hologram" theory. But there are (and already were) other versions of the theory that the experiment did not test.
To speculate that the universe is a hologram, or that we exist within a holographic universe, does not go straight to the idea that we exist within a simulation or "metaverse" created by some other intelligent species that lives (or lived) in this universe or some other universe. It could just be the fundamental nature or reality of our universe. We perceive our ordinary reality as a space of Three Dimensions, but . . . if you really want to think about it more, just fire up an online search engine with the target phrase "holographic universe".
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Originally posted by sourmash: The Republican voter group is a largely Christian contingency or has a belief in Jesus Christ as God. A person who is belligerent to that belief who is PROMOTED as a voice of leadership for that group should be openly presented as such on the subject of Christ.
OK. I got it. It's a round-about way of saying that Ben Shapiro is Jewish.
Well, maybe not. I'm not at all familiar with Ben Shapiro or what he is trying to represent.
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And a phony shill neocon. He's the shill that the portion of non-conservative GOP string pullers want filling a gap left by Limbaugh to steer the group of moderates who listen to him. His voice is very annoying. He also says he doesnt believe in Jesus as Son of God.
I have heard you accuse several people of not being "conservatives" so I have to ask you to list people that you believe are conservative. Preferably members here on PFF, politicians and celebrities (Podcaster, radio hosts, influential people)
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The Republican voter group is a largely Christian contingency or has a belief in Jesus Christ as God. A person who is belligerent to that belief who is PROMOTED as a voice of leadership for that group should be openly presented as such on the subject of Christ.
I disagree that a person has to be Christian or identify or recognize Christianity to qualify as a Republican "leader". Politics isn't a Church. Like it or not, America is made up of MANY different religions including none at all, and with that fact, ANY AND ALL "leaders" need to openly recognize it. The "leaders" of the Republican party need to represent Americans, all Americans NOT just Christians. All of that being said, I am a Christian and would love for all of America to get along with each other and believe in Christ, but that isn't going to happen. You are way off base on this one.
Freedom of religion is a conservative, constitutional principle. The idea that Jews should be excluded from positions of authority is a tenet of national socialism and islamic theocracies.
Originally posted by sourmash: The Republican voter group is a largely Christian contingency or has a belief in Jesus Christ as God. A person who is belligerent to that belief who is PROMOTED as a voice of leadership for that group should be openly presented as such on the subject of Christ.
As I said before, I know not much about this Ben Shapiro. So there could be some nuances to this nexus that I am unaware of.
In general, however, I would not draw a straight line from a person who says that they "do not believe in Jesus as Son of God," to an expression or harboring of "belligerence" towards (any) Christians or any particular manifestation of the Christian faith. It could just be a belief that's not shared, but not a "belligerence" towards that belief or any of its believers.
As far as "promoted as a voice of leadership . . . openly presented as such," is there anything that has not been "openly presented" about Ben Shapiro in the matter of his not accepting Jesus as the Son of God? Is sourmash suggesting that every time that Ben Shapiro is set up to address or converse with what is likely a pro-Republican cohort, he should be introduced as "Ben Shapiro, who does not believe in the divinity of Jesus Christ," or "Ben Shapiro, an Orthodox Jew who represents the pinnacle of Judeo-Christian beliefs," or "Nobody puts the 'Judeo' into Judeo-Christian values like Ben Shapiro,", or something else along those lines?
Is the universe more like a hologram than the intrinsically three-dimensional Euclidean space that we perceive? The information about everything in our universe could be encoded as tiny packets that are comprised by only two dimensions. This laser-instrumented physics experiment at FermiLab, called the "Holometer," is being used to test the hypothesis. Credit: DailyMail, 2015.
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I disagree that a person has to be Christian or identify or recognize Christianity to qualify as a Republican "leader". Politics isn't a Church. Like it or not, America is made up of MANY different religions including none at all, and with that fact, ANY AND ALL "leaders" need to openly recognize it. The "leaders" of the Republican party need to represent Americans, all Americans NOT just Christians. All of that being said, I am a Christian and would love for all of America to get along with each other and believe in Christ, but that isn't going to happen. You are way off base on this one.
You and Rinse did the same thing. You just made up something and claimed I said it, which is typical of most people.
You quoted what I wrote and responded to something I didn't write. Like it or not, I only said what I said and you have to confine your imagination to that.
Originally posted by Rickady88GT: I have heard you accuse several people of not being "conservatives" so I have to ask you to list people that you believe are conservative. Preferably members here on PFF, politicians and celebrities (Podcaster, radio hosts, influential people)
Donald Trump is not a conservative, but ran on conservative planks. Hannity is not either. Pat Buchanan is in the conservative sphere of practice. Rush Limbaugh was not. He convinced people that Republican means conservative. Now most Republicans believe that they are, when in fact they are moderates.
I don't accuse people. People reveal beliefs that aren't conservative and I illustrate how they are not conservative. It would be stupid to make a claim that isnt supported. My approach is to expose that stupidity by showing that there is no support for a claim.
Ben Shapiro is who the Deep State wants you to listen to. Same with Hannity and Huckabee. Shills. They're installed to address an age demographic.
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Originally posted by sourmash: You and Rinse did the same thing. You just made up something and claimed I said it, which is typical of most people.
You quoted what I wrote and responded to something I didn't write. Like it or not, I only said what I said and you have to confine your imagination to that.
In my previous message (easily identifiable by the prominent photo imagery at its end) I tried to hew exactly to what you said about, and in relation to Ben Shapiro.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by sourmash: You and Rinse did the same thing. You just made up something and claimed I said it, which is typical of most people.
You quoted what I wrote and responded to something I didn't write. Like it or not, I only said what I said and you have to confine your imagination to that.[/QUOTE] In my previous message (easily identifiable by the prominent photo imagery at its end) I tried to hew exactly to what you said about, and in relation to Ben Shapiro.
No, you didn't. You said something I didn't say so admit it because your statement and mine are clearly visible.
I think that Rick (Rickady88GT) and myself, in our respective statements, are reacting very logically to what you said about Ben Shapiro, in this context.
You can certainly disagree with the value of what Rick has said, or what I have said, but I do not see where either Rick or myself "put words in your mouth" or turned what you said about Ben Shapiro into something that you didn't say.
I think that Rick (Rickady88GT) and myself, in our respective statements, are reacting very logically to what you said about Ben Shapiro, in this context.
You can certainly disagree with the value of what Rick has said, or what I have said, but I do not see where either Rick or myself "put words in your mouth" or turned what you said about Ben Shapiro into something that you didn't say.
That's a totally delusional statement. Your specific and entire reply was to put words in my mouth.
My statement could be universally attributed to any non-religious or non-Christian religious or ethnic or identifying individual.
To Rick's reply, my statement does not state what he claims it states about what a Republican leader can or should be.
Rinse, when you can address what I stated, we'll be conversing. Now put yourself on an honest approach and give it a try.
I would no argue if you said he is a moderate. In fact I have said he is an old school democrat that the new school left behind. He now fits in better as a Republican than the modern Democrat.
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Hannity is not either. Pat Buchanan is in the conservative sphere of practice. Rush Limbaugh was not. He convinced people that Republican means conservative. Now most Republicans believe that they are, when in fact they are moderates.
You listed one person that kinda is conservative, and several that are not. This is your typical response, that is exactly why I asked you to give examples of people you consider conservative, including PFF members.
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I don't accuse people. People reveal beliefs that aren't conservative and I illustrate how they are not conservative. It would be stupid to make a claim that isnt supported. My approach is to expose that stupidity by showing that there is no support for a claim.
Typical of your responses, see them before and they say nothing, just as they have before. You speak so vague and answer so few questions that we are left to stick to our original interpretation of your stances.
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Ben Shapiro is who the Deep State wants you to listen to. Same with Hannity and Huckabee. Shills. They're installed to address an age demographic.
You are free to have an opinion, but you are also free to be wrong and spread your misunderstandings of others,....then have no true answers to back up you crazy talk. Ben is not a Republican, he has been VERY vocal about Trump shortcomings and flaws.
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The Republican voter group is a largely Christian contingency or has a belief in Jesus Christ as God. A person who is belligerent to that belief who is PROMOTED as a voice of leadership for that group should be openly presented as such on the subject of Christ.
There is no way to misinterpret this statement. Politicians have no obligation to be of ANY religious affiliation and neither do the influencers. Politics isn't a religion, we cannot exclude people because of different beliefs. Agreement on political ideology is something that makes people democrats or Republicans.
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What I like about Ben Shapiro is his ability to instantly analyze, evaluate and respond to any assertion. He has a "hypersonic brain". I am glad he is on my side. I love to watch him and Candace Owens take questions from an audience. Nobody, I mean NOBODY can get the best of them.
Nick Fuentes did just that to Ben. Ben cowered at the prospect of a further, actual debate.
Candace Owens is sharp. But notice how White Americans aren't allowed by the media and their deep state masters to have a White political activist? Christians can't have a Christian that isn't a warmongering Neocon either.
You've had hours to retract your erroneous claims, but haven't. You're behaving as a triggered person and acting out of emotions.
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Originally posted by Rickady88GT:I disagree that a person has to be Christian or identify or recognize Christianity to qualify as a Republican "leader". Politics isn't a Church.
You've quoted me twice now. Nowhere did I say anything as you have misrepresented me as saying. Nowhere did I say they can't act as a leader.
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Like it or not, America is made up of MANY different religions including none at all, and with that fact, ANY AND ALL "leaders" need to openly recognize it. The "leaders" of the Republican party need to represent Americans, all Americans NOT just Christians.
Christians can't be owned. They also deserve to have fair representation by people of their fellowship. Not someone with a view belligerent to their faith.
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All of that being said, I am a Christian and would love for all of America to get along with each other and believe in Christ, but that isn't going to happen. You are way off base on this one.
YOU are way off base and having a disagreement with someone you invented in your mind.
Rinse disappeared when asked to re-engage on an honest foot. He chose not to admit his mistake.
It's your turn. Acknowledge your misinterpretation or don't. He.made his decision. Well?
You are free to have an opinion, but you are also free to be wrong and spread your misunderstandings of others,....then have no true answers to back up you crazy talk.
You and Rinse are spreading misinformation. You're inventing a fiction to argue with and calling someone else crazy when they won't engage with that fiction.
Trump always supported people like the Clintons. He is a Republican because he could steal a platform and then toss it aside to try to get a deep state endorsement, which failed. He just held a special rally a Mara Lago to celebrate Log Cabin Republicans. Not conservative. He pushes the experimental injections and calls for Israel to control out Congress again. He wants more Afghan immigrants. I agree that those are Republicanisms today. Not conservatism.
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Ben is not a Republican, he has been VERY vocal about Trump shortcomings and flaws.
He's a deep state endorsed, installed talker for Republicans.
You refuse to actually converse, and instead invent an argument. It would be speculation for.me to speak of someone who is conservative here. There's no way I could truly know someone's positions. It's easy to know individual points that are or aren't. Known figures are the accepted method. Besides, you still haven't addressed my initial statement honestly and fairly. There's no going further if you aren't dealing in facts.
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Originally posted by williegoat:This is just a simulation of back and forth. Some of the participants aren't actually thinking, but they are real boobs.
Said the guy who wants to cancel speech that he doesnt approve of. Not conservativism. Why does that anger you? Just be who you are.
Rinse disappeared when asked to re-engage on an honest foot. He chose not to admit his mistake.
It's your turn. Acknowledge your misinterpretation or don't. He.made his decision. Well?
Rinselberg hasn't gone anywhere, it's not his style. My turn,? You still haven't even explained your comments, you rarely do. IF, there is a misunderstanding it is simple enough to clear up just by you explaining your point of view more clearly,...it really is that simple. You communicate in riddles and insults, so yes it is easy to come to conclusions you didn't intend,....but it isn't my fault or Rinselberg's.
Rinselberg hasn't gone anywhere, it's not his style. My turn,? You still haven't even explained your comments, you rarely do. IF, there is a misunderstanding it is simple enough to clear up just by you explaining your point of view more clearly,...it really is that simple. You communicate in riddles and insults, so yes it is easy to come to conclusions you didn't intend,....but it isn't my fault or Rinselberg's.
The explanation is in the post directly above that one you're commenting about Rinse. This just keeps getting whackier with you. You're asking this after I put it in a complete explanation and you still can't understand it. You aren't usually so confused. Is there something about yourself I should know to explain your inability to comprehend? Seriously.
But, yes. It's Rinse's typical to avoid admitting his mistake. So far you're doing the same. So show a quote of my stating non-Christians can't be leaders. You might as well admit it, dude. It's painfully obvious that you're avoiding it.
Originally posted by sourmash: YOU are way off base and having a disagreement with someone you invented in your mind
I know this wasn't aimed at myself, but I noticed this seems to be what you do alot, hedge people into categories you create. I like to think I might enjoy our opinion on the actual subjects of the threads.
Read my initial statement THAT HE QUOTED (twice) where he says he disagrees with me for saying these people can't be leaders. You'll note that I never said they can't be leaders. Which means they can still be leaders in my scenario. People should just know what they believe.
Prove me wrong. You obviously haven't bothered to read what you're commenting about. Try it. Buck the herd for a change. Freedom awaits.
You also should understand that "alot" is incorrect. You use it a lot. I've noticed.
Willie uses herd logic like Limbaugh taught. If you're a Republican you think you're a conservative. If you don't agree with him on Republicanism then you're a Democrat. Limbaugh was a drug addict. Conservatism has no party. Republicanism isn't conservatism.
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Some people do act like some of the chat "robots" that had only a few people interact with. Then they found each other and had long conversations about a snail and its fear of salt.
Some people do act like some of the chat "robots" that had only a few people interact with. Then they found each other and had long conversations about a snail and its fear of salt.
Regarding the question posed in the thread title, that I exist is the only fact of which I am certain. This is expressed by Descartes’ assertion, “Cogito ergo sum.” Y’all could be a figment of my imagination, an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of underdone potato. There's more of gravy than of grave about you, whatever you are.
Regarding the discussion in the video, I agree with Shapiro that immersion in the “metaverse” could mean the end of civilization and the eventual demise of mankind, altogether.
Willie uses herd logic like Limbaugh taught. If you're a Republican you think you're a conservative. If you don't agree with him on Republicanism then you're a Democrat. Limbaugh was a drug addict. Conservatism has no party. Republicanism isn't conservatism.
You know, if you are really that fascinated by what I think, you should just buy the book. No, I will not help you find it.
Originally posted by sourmash: The Republican voter group is a largely Christian contingency or has a belief in Jesus Christ as God. A person who is belligerent to that belief who is PROMOTED as a voice of leadership for that group should be openly presented as such on the subject of Christ.
Is Ben Shapiro "belligerent" towards the Christian belief in the divinity of Jesus Christ? Is he "belligerent" towards this central tenet of Christianity because he does not ascribe to this belief, himself? I don't think there's a straight line that goes from Ben Shapiro not sharing in this belief, all the way to Ben Shapiro is (or has been) "belligerent" towards this belief. Perhaps you could enlarge (in a small way) on why you said "belligerent."
Then there's the matter of "openly presented." This suggests to my mind that you think that not enough has been made of Ben Shapiro's allegiance to Judaism. In my previous message--easy to find by looking for the photo of the Holometer experiment at FermiLab--I tried to draw you out on that point.
I don't know hardly anything about Ben Shapiro. I have only described him as an Orthodox Jew because when I got drawn into this forum conversation, I searched about him online.
I think this statement of yours--the statement that I've just quoted (again) at the top of this message--is "underperforming," and will continue to underperform, all the way into Q1 2022 and beyond, absent a clearer and more concrete enlargement upon it, from yourself. An enlargement, along the lines of a midcourse correction, or a restructuring of its architectural outline to broaden its base. Or something.
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