Interestingly but not surprisingly, NOBODY except YOU mentioned his name anywhere in this thread.
Just an attempt to drive a reaction. I'm convinced it's all about attention seeking syndrome. But, that's just my opinion and to be honest, my opinion only counts in how I rate others. I know this. I also accept the repercussions of what I say and do. Decisions have rewards and consequences.
"Atlanta school to drop Confederate general's name and honor Hank Aaron"
(Reuters) - A public school in Atlanta, Georgia which carried the name of a Confederate general will be renamed after Hank Aaron, honoring the legendary baseball player who battled racism in the process of breaking the record for most home runs in a career, the New York Times reported here.
The Atlanta Board of Education unanimously voted on Monday to approve removing the name of Confederate general Nathan Bedford Forrest from Forrest Hill Academy and renaming it the Hank Aaron New Beginnings Academy, accord to the NYT report.
“Names do matter,” Jason F. Esteves, Atlanta’s school board chairman, said at the meeting, according to the NYT report. School board members said Forrest’s legacy was at odds with the community and its values.
In my ceaseless and insatiable (and manic and futile) quest for attention, I just duplicated this entire report--save for one last paragraph.
After the recent recommendations of the Tennessee Historical Commission were publicized, including the recommended relocation of the large bronze of Nathan Bedford Forrest from the Tennessee State Capitol Building to the nearby Tennessee State Museum, Susan Cooper Eastman opined at some length about "all things Nathan Bedford Forrest."
Ms Eastman's column includes several references to (one) Eric Foner.
Nathan Bedford Forrest was a homicidal criminal,” says Eric Foner the DeWitt Clinton professor of history at Columbia University and one of the country’s foremost experts on the Civil War and Reconstruction. More important, he says, this pervasive historical revisionism, this insistence on glossing over the sins of yesteryear, prevents long-standing psychic wounds from healing.
“Reconciliation requires truth,” Foner says. “You have to have one to have the other. It’s not, ‘Slavery is over. You need to get over it.’ Reconciliation requires facing [the entire] truth, and facing the truth about Nathan Bedford Forrest.”
Forrest wasn’t just a slave trader. He was a man who made his fortune on the backs of others’ coerced labor. He not only called lhe Civil War a battle over slavery, but also was so passionately behind the pro-slavery cause that he paid for his own cavalry to fight the Union.
As for Forrest’s later involvement with the Klan, the commonly accepted notion that Forrest was the group’s first grand wizard didn't originate with a liberal Northerner bent on sullying his good name. Instead, it’s clearly stated in a friendly 1914 history of the Klan written by Laura Martin Rose, the historian for the United Daughters of the Confederacy.
The revisionists’ history relies heavily on the general’s own denials to Congress. But Forrest had every reason to lie. “The Klan was a terrorist organization like Al Qaeda,” Foner says. “Nobody is going to admit they’re a member of Al Qaeda to Congress."
And then there’s the most noxious event in the Forrest story: Fort Pillow. In April 1864, some 300 Union soldiers — including more than 200 black soldiers, along with civilian women and children — were massacred in cold blood after Forrest’s Confederate troops had overrun and secured the fort. “Not only had the Confederates murdered most of the garrison after it had surrendered,” wrote Civil War historian Albert Castel in 1959, “but they had buried Negro soldiers alive, set fire to tents containing Federal wounded, and committed other terrible atrocities."
A month after the massacre [in1864], a congressional committee report put it this way: “The atrocities committed at Fort Pillow were not the result of passions committed by the heat of conflict, but were the results of a deliberately decided upon and unhesitatingly announced policy.” Forrest and his troops viewed the [Union's] black soldiers as less than human; they did not “recognize the officers and men of our [Union] colored regiments as entitled to the treatments accorded by all civilized nations to prisoners of war.”
In the words of U.S. Army Major General Stephen Hurlbut . . . "The information which I have from all sources official and otherwise, is that – whether by permission of [the Confederate] officers, or contrary to [that] permission, I cannot say — a butchery took place there that is unexampled in the record of civilized warfare."
Forrest’s defenders seize on that caveat. All this happened before the general arrived at Fort Pillow, they say, and when he discovered the massacre, he immediately put a stop to it. Had he authorized it, Nelson says, Forrest surely would have been hanged as a war criminal. Instead, President Andrew Johnson pardoned him.
“Every war criminal in history says that he didn’t know,” Foner counters. “He was in command. He was responsible for what happened. That’s why his name was on a school. He was the commander. If you’re in command, you’re responsible.”
The Duval County School Board's 1959 decision to name a school after [Nathan Bedford Forrest] had nothing to do with the [Confederate general's] military genius or his later repudiation of the Klan’s intimidation tactics. It was an emphatic middle finger to the federal government, [after the U.S.] Supreme Court had recently ordered school desegregation nationwide.
“These names aren’t just pulled out of a history dictionary,” Foner says. “They often make a statement. Naming a school after Nathan Bedford Forrest five years after Brown v. Board of Education made a statement, a statement more about 1959 than about 1865."
more references to Eric Foner, on the topic of Nathan Bedford Forrest
So who is Eric Foner?
Eric Foner, DeWitt Clinton Professor Emeritus of History [at Columbia University], specializes in the Civil War and Reconstruction, slavery, and 19th-century America. He is one of only two persons to serve as President of the Organization of American Historians, American Historical Association, and Society of American Historians. He has also been the curator of several museum exhibitions, including the prize-winning "A House Divided: America in the Age of Lincoln," at the Chicago Historical Society. His book, The Fiery Trial: Abraham Lincoln and American Slavery won the Pulitzer, Bancroft, and Lincoln prizes for 2011. His latest book is Gateway to Freedom: The Hidden History of the Underground Railroad. [He co-authored "America’s Reconstruction: People and Politics After the Civil War."]
U.S. Army Air Corps Brigadier General Nathan Bedford Forrest III was the first U.S. general officer killed in combat against the Nazis during World War II. His plane was shot down over the Baltic Sea while participating in a B-17 bomber raid on Kiel, Germany. A 1928 graduate of West Point, he served as Second Air Force Chief of Staff prior to transfer to the U.S. Eighth Air Force in England. His body was recovered and buried by the Germans, after washing up at a seaplane base, in a small cemetery in Wier, Germany.
He was the great-grandson of Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest.
In 1949, Nathan Bedford Forrest III's body was returned from Germany and reburied in Arlington . . .
And for no particular reason, a blog post that goes on forever. You'd have to schedule an entire day just to read this 'bad boy' from end to end. With more photographs and images from the time of the antebellum South, all the way to modern day, than anyone could shake an equestrian's riding stick at.
MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) — Workers arrived at a Tennessee park Tuesday to begin the process of digging up the remains of Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest, and moving the former slave trader’s body from its longtime resting place in Memphis to a museum hundreds of miles away.
Crews prepared to remove the graves of Forrest and his wife from Health Sciences Park in Memphis’ busy medical district. The park used to bear the name of the early Ku Klux Klan leader, and feature a statue of the cavalryman on a horse, but the name has been changed and the statue removed in recent years.
Workers must dismantle the statue’s pedestal before they can disinter the Forrests' remains and move them to a Confederate museum in Middle Tennessee. A heavy crane was positioned near the pedestal as workers prepared the site Tuesday morning. The entire process is expected to take weeks.
With the approval of Forrest’s relatives, the Sons of Confederate Veterans is overseeing the move. A judge approved it late last year, ending a long legal battle.
That's not quite the half of it--that's about 40 percent of the complete report.
Originally posted by Hudini: The quicker they can hide it the quicker they can blame others. They know no shame.
I can't hear you, Hudini. I can't hear anything on this line. I guess it's that interference that keeps cropping up. Where is that coming from? From MAGA World? From Mar-a-Blog'o? From one of the "Trumplican" Republicans that are among us? Is it the Right Wing Reactionary or Fringe Right presence that's long time (way too long time) been palpable here?
Maybe cvxjet has an idea about it--but I have not seen him show up here recently.
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Confederate flag and singing of "Dixie" at the exhumation of Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest's remains in Memphis!
The remains of early Ku Klux Klan leader and Confederate Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were finally being exhumed from a Memphis park, and the Black woman who led a long battle for the change was there to mark the moment.
But as activist-turned-elected-official Tami Sawyer prepared to address reporters, a man waved a Confederate flag behind her. Pacing back and forth, he called the Shelby County commissioner a “communist.” Then he started singing “Dixie,” the anthem of the Old South.
“This hatred and this racism is large and loud,” [Shelby Country commissioner Tami] Sawyer said as he sang. She added, “I’m not going to let him win.” . . .
The "commish" [Shelby Country commissioner Tami Sawyer] has filed for charges over the incident, alleging crimes of harassment and intimidation on the part of George Johnson, who brandished the Confederate flag and provided the a capella performance of "Dixie." Memphis PD is providing some extra protection for Sawyer in the aftermath of this incident.
This is a good time to remind anyone who might be reading this (if there is any such person) that my practice in citing or presenting articles from online media (etc.) is to quote the title and the "nut graf" (also "nut graph") that often accompanies the title. (That's a sentence or two immediately below the title that is often part of the set up for the article).
I do that for reference, even if I do not agree 100 percent or even more than zero percent with the assertions or observations that are conveyed by the set up for the article.
Here's the first paragraph:
So, they’re digging up old Nathan Bedford Forrest over in Memphis. The disinterment is going like hell. Confederates yelled at Tami Sawyer. They damaged a Black Lives Matter display. A righteous man burned a Confederate flag and now the spokesperson for the Sons of Confederate Veterans, Lee Millar, is begging people to just stay away. He told WREG: “We don’t want anyone to come down. We don’t want anything stirred up. Just leave things alone and don’t come bother the construction workers or anybody else in the park.”
The entire column Read-o-Meters to just over 7 minutes. OK--almost 8 minutes. About halfway in between.
It starts with a "period" photograph from 1906.
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