If you haven't heard yet, you need to look it up. No, not later, NOW! If we are not at war, I don't know what to call it.
Lay it out, how do you feel about it? Should angry mobs be allowed to storm the Whitehouse and over take it? How far should the Government let them go? What other options does the Government have given this scenario or the next one if it's even worse? It is my opinion that the people who have organized this campaign have full intentions on a full scale civil unrest and that they see the Floyd riots as to small and are just a start of what they want to happen next.
Lay it out: Militant leftist insurgents attacked government forces and the government surrendered, due in large part to the fact that the government was already heavily infiltrated. A large US city is now under siege. How do I feel about it?: I am perplexed, angry and saddened that this was allowed, nay ENCOURAGED to happen in America in the 21st century. If you support the left, this IS your fault work. How many cities have to fall before America takes action?
Murder rates have soared in the last week, notably in Chicago and Los Angeles. Do those lives not matter?
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Lay it out: Militant leftist insurgents attacked government forces and the government surrendered, due in large part to the fact that the government was already heavily infiltrated. A large US city is now under siege. How do I feel about it?: I am perplexed, angry and saddened that this was allowed, nay ENCOURAGED to happen in America in the 21st century. If you support the left, this IS your fault work. How many cities have to fall before America takes action?
Murder rates have soared in the last week, notably in Chicago and Los Angeles. Do those lives not matter?
This is history repeating itself. This is only allowed in "liberal" cities. New York City was Republican, then went Democrat and slid quickly down-hill, and as a result, became Republican again. If you remember NYC in the 1980s, all of this "everyone love each other, criminals can do no harm" bull **** led NYC to becoming a massive dump, and it's what led to NYC's downfall.
People got tired of the nonsense, and elected a Republican who completely turned the city around. But as usual, when the liberal problems have been solved, they forget quickly and start looking at other issues that are less important, and that led to an Independent (Bloomberg) and then a Democrat (de Blasio). The city is a **** -hole, and people are fleeing it again.
Just like Minneapolis, when things get bad enough, it'll turn Republican again. It is completely crazy that a mayor of a city would allow what... 6 or 8 square city blocks to be taken over by a roving mob of mutli-sexual white Millennials wearing black skinny-jeans and hoodies. Give it time, they'll either give up (and that's what the mayor is hoping for), or they have to send in riot police to flush them out. Either way, it's going to be enjoyable to watch (and I mean that). These people are some of the worst members of society. Freaks and losers, all of whom are middle-class white liberal kids from families where there's a cuck husband, and a placenta-eating wife who probably doesn't wear deodorant, and believes doing her hair is fascist. This is going to be awesome... please, someone post it when it happens, so I don't miss it.
In the past few days, this group of nearly all-white middle-class privileged Millennials have feigned the abolishment of all institutions that stood there previously. In the absence of these institutions, they’ve un-democratically allowed a wealthy black man to take over as dictator without so much as a quorum. Following this take-over, they've re-created a police department, put up border walls, and created a system of law and order that indiscriminately carries out justice without any checks and balances. In effect, they've created overnight the very thing they said they're against.
Second, this take-over essentially occurred in a city that is most closely aligned with their views. Seattle is a highly Democrat city in a highly Democrat State. Both Senators, and 7 of the 10 Representatives are Democrat. Nearly everyone in the state is a Democrat. What they are doing is doubling-down on stupidity. The only reason why the city Government *allowed* them to take over these blocks in the first place is because they are as weak as they are. They’ve recreated overnight a miniature version of what they hate.
As long as they continue to vote for the same people, they will continue to get corruption and manipulation.
How long ago did Trump say antifa was a terrorist group? And anti-Trumpers made arguments that antifia did not and could not exist or be defined? Something about no leaders or organization?
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If someone is acting out, how long do you give them to realize they are acting ridiculous?
There is no way on Earth Cities can function as a first world country without a first world justice system. Say what you will about abuse of authority but even the imperfect system has checks and balances that punish it's own for breaking the law. Take the Floyd case for example: the Officers that were involved were charged with crimes and Floyd's family will see justice for his killing, but nobody seems to even care that justice is working for the victim. A lawless street gang "policing" the streets will be a boodbath. Imagine what the new justice system is doing in Seattle right now?
Kids wearing plate carriers and toting AR style rifles while manning barricades around private property they have illegally seized is NOT GOING TO END WELL.
There are reports that business owners inside "CHAZISTAN" are being extorted for money and that residents inside this "zone" are being forced to show ID to gain access to their own homes.
Make NO mistake about this. It is NOT a "protest" anymore. This is the armed occupation of a part of a major US city by a Communist insurgency.
Kids wearing plate carriers and toting AR style rifles while manning barricades around private property they have illegally seized is NOT GOING TO END WELL.
There are reports that business owners inside "CHAZISTAN" are being extorted for money and that residents inside this "zone" are being forced to show ID to gain access to their own homes.
Make NO mistake about this. It is NOT a "protest" anymore. This is the armed occupation of a part of a major US city by a Communist insurgency.
I did a quick search on Google and found little to nothing on a Seattle take over. How real.is it and much is being deliberately un-newsworthy? Mostly I found that Trump hate is at a fever pitch. Mostly anti-Trump "news".
Begging for vegan food to survive? This has to be fake. Seriously,,... non-vegan food is going to end their revolution? They have ballistic vests and AR rifles and they are stumped by meat based foods? They will be fighting each other soon.
Begging for vegan food to survive? This has to be fake. Seriously,,... non-vegan food is going to end their revolution? They have ballistic vests and AR rifles and they are stumped by meat based foods? They will be fighting each other soon.
It's not fake.
It is a Twatter Tweet sent out by an 18-year-old self described "lesbian anarchist" that goes by the name "lauracouc" who wants to “abolish whiteness, capitalism, and civilization,”...(in other words she's Antifa)
So, if no one brings them soy burgers and tofu fries, what are they gonna do? Protest? Riot? Loot?
I think I'm going to invest in companies that make spray paint, OSB and chain link fence.
I say we surround the place with CBP officers and require proper paperwork to enter the USA. What happens to people who try to bring drugs and firearms across the border?
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These people are counting on the fact that Americans really are nice people. They know it is true and they are betting their lives on it.
They know that Americans wouldn't hurt a flea, unless and until it becomes absolutely necessary. They are going to push until it becomes absolutely necessary, at which time they will cry, "See, I told you so!"
These people are counting on the fact that Americans really are nice people. They know it is true and they are betting their lives on it.
They know that Americans wouldn't hurt a flea, unless and until it becomes absolutely necessary. They are going to push until it becomes absolutely necessary, at which time they will cry, "See, I told you so!"
I have lived and worked with those "rough men".
I was, and will forever remain, one of them.
When the time comes they will bring a terrible violence on those people that will be overwhelmingly swift, with overwhelming force and at a moment they will least expect it.
Those people will not cry; "See I told you so".
They will just cry.
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Patriotism: "Feeling, expressing, or inspired by love for one's country."
I'm pretty sure she's got it totally wrong. I've never in my life seen such cowardice. This Mayor has got to be the most ridiculous public figure I've ever seen. She's terrified of making a decision, for fear that she'll end up on the wrong side of the decision, so she makes no decisions. She's literally just allowed a bunch of middle class children to take over several city blocks.
Just unbelievable. I wonder how long she's going to allow this. I assume she's hoping they all get tired and go home first.
I think you guys are missing a bet here. This is a great start. We should help by erecting security fencing around the whole city, and all the other dark blue cities, and declare them all 'autonomous' zones. Then they can hold their own elections if they choose to... and since they're no longer part of the US, they wouldn't be voting in state or federal elections
When the food runs out they will too? This is not going to end well.
That's probably what the authorities here are waiting for. The occupiers being forced to resupply. As they start to venture out in resupply missions, they will be covertly snatched up as individual units, until the remaining occupiers are forced negotiate. Endgame for the hungry.
They are trying to avoid future historical footage of a National Guard "Sweep & Clear" (search & destroy) operation of American white youth. I say "white", because that seems to create the most impact on camera for the viewer.
In my opinion, the current situation here is exactly what the National Guard is for. Cut the power, water, gas & and roll in with water cannons, shield wall, etc. and push them all into a prebuilt holding area for prosecution and/or American re-education. Apparently, their parents failed to raise them up in the American way correctly. The "right" to protest is not a license to steal & destroy.
Destroying or taking something by force that don't belong to you doesn't make you a revolutionary, it makes you a criminal. Unless you win.
From a tactical standpoint, whoever created the "autonomous zone" is a moron. They've intentionally put themselves under siege. Their "autonomous zone" is not self-supportive, so the results of the siege are inevitable. It's just a question of how long until they cave in. Basically all the authorities need to do is shut off electricity to the area, cordon it off, and wait. After a couple days, the belligerent millenials will be begging to get out of there.
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When the time comes they will bring a terrible violence on those people that will be overwhelmingly swift, with overwhelming force and at a moment they will least expect it.
Those people will not cry; "See I told you so".
They will just cry.
If any of your other weirdly obsessive posts here over other men are any indication, i'm betting your impotent, pathetic little azz pleasured himself while writing this.
You wouldn't know the first thing about "rough men". "Rough men" don't drool all over themselves calling themselves "rough men". Moron.
You know damn well (as does everyone else) you're nothing but a pathetic, self-loathing little coward. Nice try, though.
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Originally posted by Boondawg: The "right" to protest is not a license to steal & destroy.
Destroying or taking something by force that don't belong to you doesn't make you a revolutionary, it makes you a criminal.
I tend to agree with this. There's a big difference between peaceable assembly and armed sedition. The people running those "autonomous zones" decided cross that line, and IMO they should suffer the consequences of that decision.
Also note that they are not championing a noble cause. They're basically a bunch of anarchists, acting out a twisted fantasy. Comparing that to our founding fathers is, IMO, an insult to the people who created this nation.
My thinking is that this comment shows you don't really understand what it is to be an American.
I'm a little surprised that you believe yourself to be in a position to judge Boondawg's understanding of "what it is to be an American"... but heck, fill in a foreigner... what's it take to be an "American"?
From a tactical standpoint, whoever created the "autonomous zone" is a moron. They've intentionally put themselves under siege. Their "autonomous zone" is not self-supportive, so the results of the siege are inevitable. It's just a question of how long until they cave in. Basically all the authorities need to do is shut off electricity to the area, cordon it off, and wait. After a couple days, the belligerent millenials will be begging to get out of there.
Their "practice run" back when they called themselves "Occupy Wall Street" ended with them leaving Zuccotti Park in Manhattan filled with trash, drug needles, feces and a legacy of rape, sexual assault and other violence.
It also accomplished nothing and it was (like now) unsustainable.
The ONLY thing that allows these communist insurgent "mini-occupations" to survive for the brief time they do is inaction by supportive Leftists in the local governments.
You will note that ZERO "Red States" have any of this crap going on right now.
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