I'm a little surprised that you believe yourself to be in a position to judge Boondawg's understanding of "what it is to be an American"... but heck, fill in a foreigner... what's it take to be an "American"?
His comment, "Apparently, their parents failed to raise them up in the American way correctly." was 100% sarcasm. Not only does he not believe this, he's actually making fun of the people who believe this.
The "American way," is the belief that you can accomplish anything in life through hard work and determination.
Boondawg not only does not believe this, he has absolutely no clue how the rest of the world lives. I've been all over the world for work. I've seen how people live under authoritarian regimes (which he fawns over), just scraping by to get fed from one week to the next. He has no clue how people live in poor countries, with homes literally made of stacked mud. The fact that many of these poor countries ONLY have income because of US-based charity programs. Nearly every post-modern country in this world has wealth as a direct result of the American economy.
People like Boondawg don't understand the basic fundamentals of economics. People like Boondawg believe that economies are a zero-sum game, that... in order for someone to build wealth, it has to be taken away from someone else. People like Boondawg do not understand that wealth is grown and nurtured, and that "currency" is not the only concept of wealth, but in fact also assets, skills, education, and most importantly... potential. He has absolutely no clue, or remotely any concept of what a true Communist or Socialist government is like.
As a foreigner from Canada, you should appreciate all too well what it's like to be an American. There is a reason why more than 70% of your population literally sits within 100 miles of the US border. The rest is economic and infrastructure remnants stemming from the Klondike gold rush, and energy production from Calgary and Edmonton... both of which fed the American machine.
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My thinking is that this comment shows you don't really understand what it is to be parent. See how that works? Is it sound?
I mean, it doesn't bother me. I'm not sure you've ever been a parent, but I am (proudly). I've done a great job of explaining things to my daughter so she understands right from wrong, and understands that nothing is free, and that you have to work for everything. I've explained to her that people in other countries often do not have the privileges we do, and how people in the United States make up the 1% of the world, how... the fact that simply being born in the United States puts her at a greater advantage than 99% of the rest of the world ... that she shouldn't waste or take for granted that God-given opportunity as a natural-born US citizen.
I've also told her the only difference between a wealthy person, and a poor person, is upbringing and attitude... and that the right positive attitude, with raw ambition and motivation, is all you need to succeed in life.
I'm *extremely* proud of my country, the United States of America. I'd die for her... and I'll do anything to defend the Constitution. My dad came from the Netherlands at the age of 21 with $500 in his pocket, an immigrant who was extremely proud of being selected by immigration to be allowed to come to America. My mom is from Argentina, and she didn't even come to the United States until she was 14 years old, but my Grandfather, an American, was working for the State Department in South America for all those years. He married an Argentine woman in Argentina. So my mom was a naturalized American. My Grandfather on my mom's side, the only one with lineage in the United States, has family that leads back to the Revolutionary War. We have family in the Civil War, a father and son duo who fought for the Union Army in the Missouri 23rd Volunteer Regiment. They were both captured in the battle of Shiloh. The father later died of his wounds, but the son went on to fight in the Spanish American War. My great great grandfather fought in World War 1, and my Great Grandfather served in the Korean War, and my Grandfather served in World War 2, and my uncle AND Grandfather served in Vietnam.
Back to my father from the Netherlands, he grew up in Vassen, and was literally born during the NAZI occupation. He's vehemently against any concept of Socialism as he saw what it led to with Hitler. My father's family ran a dry cleaning business that even used to deliver the laundry to Queen Beatrix. When the NAZIs took over, they also took over my grandfather's (dad's dad) factory and the house. The family of 8 had to live in the garage, while the factory was being used by the NAZIs as a munitions depot, and the house was being used as a NAZI field hospital. My grandfather, at great risk to his own life and his family's, hid a Jewish family and a Jewish couple in the attic. My uncle (the oldest of my dad's brothers) would sneak up there and give them bread and water during the occupation. They all survived. When my dad was old enough, he served in NATO, an American-formed military organization to defend against future world-incursions like the Axis of Evil.
Back to my grandfather who lived in Argentina and Uruguay. When he was stationed in Argentina, the Socialist leader "Juan Perone," (later to be succeeded by his wife Eva Perone... remember, "Don't Cry for me Argentina?") was systematically taking over businesses and imprisoning (and killing) detractors. The entire country was locked down, and they had to escape by seaplane in the middle of the night with the help of the State Department. Others were not so lucky.
So, your comments are not only frustrating to me... but they make me realize how uneducated you are of the real world. You act so entitled, yet you're so totally oblivious to how privileged you actually are. I hate to talk to you like this, but you have a knack for bringing this out of people with your one-off ridiculous comments. Your comments are all filled with hatred and you absolutely despise people like me who have pride for our country. I'm not a psychologist, and I'm not going to waste my time psychoanalyzing you. But you got exactly the response you were seeking to get, so... you're welcome.
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As a foreigner from Canada, you should appreciate all too well what it's like to be an American.
Not really. It would be presumptuous of me to say that I do. However, I appreciate all too well what it's like to live next door to the United States.
In 1969, Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau traveled to Washington to meet with President Richard Nixon and coined a phrase that has come to define relations between Canada and the U.S.
"Living next to you is in some ways like sleeping with an elephant. No matter how friendly and even-tempered is the beast, if I can call it that, one is affected by every twitch and grunt," said the late Pierre Trudeau.
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There is a reason why more than 70% of your population literally sits within 100 miles of the US border.
The reason for the majority of Canada's population to be living along our southern border is two-fold... the location of our largest trading partner (yes, due to geography, it happens to be the US), and climate (crops grow rather poorly in the arctic, access to year-round ports, etc).
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The rest is economic and infrastructure remnants stemming from the Klondike gold rush, and energy production from Calgary and Edmonton... both of which fed the American machine..
As a foreigner from Canada, you should appreciate all too well what it's like to be an American.
Let me ask you something. Why wouldn't you say "As a citizen of Canada, you should appreciate all too well what it's like to be an American."? (although I must admit I don't get the question) I mean, doesn't he live in Canada?
Where exactly do you have to be posting from on a website based in the Netherlands to be a "foreigner from Canada"?
EDIT: As an explorer, in my younger days, I once spent 8 years living and working among the Canadian peoples along the Yukon River in a little historic place called Dawson City, YTC (Yukon Territory Of Canada). A generous, friendly people, I soon started banging their women. 6% beer and 5 quarts to the gallon! Tell mom I won't be home!
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My feelings are pretty simple. Bring in the blackhawks, snipe that rap singer warlord just like Somalia, and problem solved.
They want a repeat of Mogadishu no-go zone. ...
Give them one.
Yeah. I'm a little more contemplative.
That's not an insult to you. Simply a commentary on who I am.
Listen, I think you'll agree that neither of us are the sharpest knife rocket in the brain surgeon scientist... That being unsaid, our level of enderstanding shouldn't be a complection!
Besides, I'M RIGHT! :middlefinger:
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Let me ask you something. Why wouldn't you say "As a citizen of Canada, you should appreciate all too well what it's like to be an American."? (although I must admit I don't get the question) I mean, doesn't he live in Canada?
Where exactly do you have to be posting from on a website based in the Netherlands to be a "foreigner from Canada"?
It was in response to a post YOU made about America, in a thread about something going on in America, on a car forum for an American car. This is obvious to you, but I guess you thought you were being clever.
As a citizen of Canada, Patrick would appreciate where he is in life BECAUSE of the United States (whether he'll openly admit it or not). Canada's #1 trading partner is the United States, the wealth they've built has been almost exclusively because of the United States. Go back and look at my post, the entire population lives on the US border, or in areas of energy production, which goes to the United States. The wealth of the world in the past ~150 years is largely built upon the success of the American dream, and the spread of free market ideals. It has single-handedly brought more people out of poverty, and advanced the human race more quickly, than any other concept in world history.
... a concept you not only disagree with, but make fun of because of your complete lack of understanding of economics and human nature.
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EDIT: As an explorer, in my younger days, I once spent 8 years living and working among the Canadian peoples along the Yukon River in a little historic place called Dawson City, YTC (Yukon Territory Of Canada). A generous, friendly people, I soon started banging their women. 6% beer and 5 quarts to the gallon! Tell mom I won't be home!
Respectfully Boonie, living in Canada hardly provides the diversity I'm talking about. You've never been to Cairo, outskirts of Bangkok, Tegucigalpa, Kabul, Karachi, or even somewhere like Port Au Prince. You don't have the slightest perspective on how the rest of the world lives. You've always lived in a sheltered environment. Before you get all high and mighty... I've lived exactly as you have, but without the drugs. I've been unemployed before for an extended period of time, no running car, bills all late, in debt, had to check the payphones for change just so I could go buy a box of Mac n' Cheese for $0.49 at the gas station so I could eat that day... and through all of it, I always knew it was temporary because I lived in the United States. Even living in the wealthiest country in the world, with more opportunities than 99% of the world... you still think someone owes you something.
I've seen this exact video a couple of times. But I still get angry at the arrogance of most of the people in the beginning... it's ridiculous. They're so arrogant, and even though they're totally wrong, and ended up totally wrong... it just shows how most of these people are so far divorced from reality that they have no idea what's going on outside of their little worlds.
As a citizen of Canada, Patrick would appreciate where he is in life BECAUSE of the United States (whether he'll openly admit it or not). Canada's #1 trading partner is the United States, the wealth they've built has been almost exclusively because of the United States. Go back and look at my post, the entire population lives on the US border, or in areas of energy production, which goes to the United States. The wealth of the world in the past ~150 years is largely built upon the success of the American dream, and the spread of free market ideals. It has single-handedly brought more people out of poverty, and advanced the human race more quickly, than any other concept in world history.
What an absolute load of nonsense. You come to the most bizarre conclusions of almost anyone who posts here. Time and time again, you look at a situation and only see it from one narrow perspective.
Todd, any guy that provides a passage through his fence for a family of armadillos to use, is okay in my book. However, you often say (any time you talk politics) the damnedest things.
Yes, Canada's #1 trading partner is the US... and who's the #1 trading partner of the US? Until just recently, none other than Canada (having now been surpassed by China). I suppose you're now going to inform me that the US makes no profit from it's trade with Canada. It's just done as a charitable action, right? lol
Why does Mexico (in many regards) continue to be a third world country... despite your southern neighbor's immediate proximity to the US? Simply having the US as a neighbor hasn't seemed to have provided the Mexican people with much prosperity.
And maybe while you're bragging about how the US has "advanced the human race more quickly, than any other concept in world history", you can have a look at the following - How slavery became America’s first big business
What an absolute load of nonsense. I suppose you're now going to inform me that the US makes no profit from it's trade with Canada. It's just done as a charitable action, right? lol
For quite some time, Canada was exploiting the United States by violating (through a technicality) the North American Free Trade Agreement. Canada imposed taxes on anything NOT made in Canada, which mandated that American cars and American products were effectively more expensive in Canada than anywhere else. They did this in a round-about way so as not to make it a "tariff." That said, it still technically violated NAFTA. As a result, nearly all automobile and parts manufacturers in the North East moved North of the border to Canada. This way, the American companies could still sell cars to Canadians (without imposing a tax), and Americans could still buy these cars because... well, we were the only ones actually following NAFTA and not exploiting it for their own personal gain. A great many Americans lost their jobs. ... that was until Mexico became a much more convenient location, and then Canadians lost their jobs.
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Why does Mexico (in many regards) continue to be a third world country... despite your southern neighbor's immediate proximity to the US? Simply having the US as a neighbor hasn't seemed to have provided the Mexican people with much prosperity.
I don't know Patrick, what you're saying has a whiff of racism. What are you suggesting? FYSA:
And maybe while you're bragging about how the US has "advanced the human race more quickly, than any other concept in world history", you can have a look at the following - How slavery became America’s first big business
The United States wasn't founded on racism, quite the opposite. But the people who originally came to "the New World" and colonized North, Central, and South America brought slaves. That would be the British, French, and Dutch.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: The United States wasn't founded on racism, quite the opposite.
When you "discover" a new land and label ALL (age 0~100) of the current inhabitants "red-devil savages" simply to expedite your "settlement" of their land (oop's, no concept of land "ownership"...catch-up, already!), one could see how that might be interpreted as "racism". It's like banging a simpleton because they can't comprehend.
As we learn more, we become more enlightened. EVERYTHING in history is always for some "noble" purpose.
Relax. Honestly examining "The Human Condition" doesn't have to be some kind of personal insult... We all fugged' up!
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When you "discover" a new land and label ALL (age 0~100) of the current inhabitants "red-devil savages" simply to expedite your "settlement" of their land (oop's, no concept of land "ownership"...catch-up, already!), one could see how that might be interpreted as "racism". It's like banging a simpleton because they can't comprehend.
As we learn more, we become more enlightened. EVERYTHING in history is always for some "noble" purpose.
Relax. Honestly examining "The Human Condition" doesn't have to be some kind of personal insult... We all fugged' up!
You think Genghis Khan thought about Europeans the same way? I wonder.
A few days ago, CHAZ changed its name to CHOP (Capitol Hill Organized Protest). I guess they realized they weren't actually autonomous...
It seems like some pretty disgusting stuff is going on in there... people being extorted by armed thugs, rape, assault, etc. IMO, the mayor should be held accountable for it. Either that, or she needs to get off her ass and do something useful.
A few days ago, CHAZ changed its name to CHOP (Capitol Hill Organized Protest). I guess they realized they weren't actually autonomous...
It seems like some pretty disgusting stuff is going on in there... people being extorted by armed thugs, rape, assault, etc. IMO, the mayor should be held accountable for it. Either that, or she needs to get off her ass and do something useful.
Being it's fathers day, seems like a good time to spread a little bit of confusion into CHAZ.
Loudspeaker in "Who's your daddy ". That'll keep them occupied for a while.
Truly, that is the problem. Most of these people don't have fathers... and in some cases, the mothers didn't want them either. It's often no wonder these people are the way they are. They want everyone else to hurt as much as they are... and they're trying to destroy the "fairytale" lives they believe everyone else has.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Truly, that is the problem. Most of these people don't have fathers... and in some cases, the mothers didn't want them either. It's often no wonder these people are the way they are. They want everyone else to hurt as much as they are... and they're trying to destroy the "fairytale" lives they believe everyone else has.
Well what do you expect, the media is watering down history, they dont teach the same lessons as when I was in school as it could cause someone discomfort. Everyone gets a ribbon even if they didn't do anything. (ok they may have started that **** when I was in the boy scouts but they all ended up in the trash) When you cant see anything other than your perception and its too much to learn. You have no idea what kind of hell someone has had to live through to get what they have, and to know that at any point it can all be taken away. I have a feeling they are going to learn that its not all rainbows and unicorns on the other side.
News reporting that Seattle mayor will (finally) order police to retake the precinct station and the surrounding area.
I'll believe it when I see it... the damage is already done. Any businesses that were in that area are now probably gone or out of business. There was one coffee shop that supposedly supported them, I'd love to know how they're working out.
My guess is everyone will be too stoned, the mayor is paying them to leave, or it's going to be a huge fight.
Either way ... my guess is she's starting to realize that this isn't reflecting positively on her.
News reporting that Seattle mayor will (finally) order police to retake the precinct station and the surrounding area.
I'll believe it when it actually happens. I've thought over the last couple weeks since it started "What would you do if this happened where you live?". And not like, downtown somewhere. I mean if our residence ended up contained in one of the "zones".
I'll believe it when it actually happens. I've thought over the last couple weeks since it started "What would you do if this happened where you live?". And not like, downtown somewhere. I mean if our residence ended up contained in one of the "zones".
Don't expect it to be mentioned on the news, or televised at all. Even though this would be the news "blockbuster" of the year, none of the news stations will show anything about it. My guess is... MSNBC and CNN won't even mention anything about it... as if it just never happened.
My guess is that the government will some how pay or incentivize them to leave. The government will choose to pat them on the back on their way through this situation. Some may even get housing and public assistance checks as a plea bargain to allow the government to occupy the zone.
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My guess is that the government will some how pay or incentivize them to leave. The government will choose to pat them on the back on their way through this situation. Some may even get housing and public assistance checks as a plea bargain to allow the government to occupy the zone.
Totally agree, and the Democrats will hide all of this information, and herald their ability for peaceful cooperation and discussions as their reasoning for being able to move people out of CHAZ.
Todd, I gotta say... you must've read one too many 
