White House Press Briefing with Sarah Huckabee Sanders; September 25, 2017.
The Fake News media brought out their "Ghosts of Charlottesville" blitz package; Sarah Huckabee Sanders was in the backfield, looking out for the President.
Fake News media reporter
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Thanks, Sarah. Does the President believe that there are very fine people who kneeled yesterday watching those games? Or are they all SOBs?
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
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I think you're trying to conflate different things here. Look, we certainly respect the rights that people have, but I think we also need to focus -- again, this isn’t about the President being against something, which is what everybody wants to draw. This is about the President being for something. This is about the President being for respecting our country through symbols like the American flag, like the national anthem, and the hundreds of thousands of people that actually stand versus the few hundred that may have knelt.
Fake News media reporter
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A quick follow-up, if I can. The President said that kneeling has nothing to do with race. Colin Kaepernick took a kneel -- took to his knees in these games -- many of these games -- specifically because he said black people in this country were not being treated fairly by police. How is that not an issue of race?
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
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I think that the focus has long since changed and certainly the message and what a lot has been communicated over these last several weeks through this process -- through this protest by these players.
<Later in the briefing>
Fake News media reporter
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Sarah, when Colin Kaepernick says that his protest is about fighting police brutality, fighting racial disparity, racial injustice, you're not taking him at his word. You're saying the focus has long since moved on. But when white supremacists say that their protest is about heritage and not hate, the President does take them at their word. So why is there this disparity about who gets to decide what protest is about?
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
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I think if the debate is really, for them, about police brutality, they should probably protest the officers on the field that are protecting them instead of the American flag.
White House Press Briefing with Sarah Huckabee Sanders; September 25, 2017.
The Fake News media brought out their "Ghosts of Charlottesville" blitz package; Sarah Huckabee Sanders was in the backfield, looking out for the President.
He is now out of the NFL, Vegan and Communist. Gone is his career.
Now THAT is what I call "social justice"!!
That jackass's name comes up repeatedly in relation to this nonsense and serves as a DAILY REMINDER to him that his NFL career, such as it was, is OVER.
Here is one commentator's take on this whole kneel and disrespect the flag and the anthem along with President Trump's comments on Saturday. So who do you think is going to come out ahead on this? President Trump or the NFL? Read what this guy thinks.
Personally, I think he is right on. Could be a huge hit on this sport. I know I didn't even bother to turn on the game tonight and I didn't even watch anything yesterday in real time. So that might not help the advertisers and if it doesn't help with advertising then it will quickly bring down the income for the NFL. Then what do they do?
I am anxiously waiting to see what happens with all this social justice warrior inspired baloney.
I'll be interested to learn just how all this has effected the NFL viewer's ratings.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
This is like slapping your mother because of someone else. Disrespectful and if your father didn't raise you better the public will voice it's disagreement with your "protest"
You just have to laugh at the hysterics of the left these days. They have been promoting disunity for decades and now someone stands up to them and they can't stand it.
The one thing I have to say is that President Trump is in their heads full time, as exemplified by the responses here on Cranach. Now they are taking a knee in response to President Trump, because of what he tweeted.
The optics can't get any better. Who would have known it would only take a few tweets to get them to bend the knee to Trump. Maybe Cersei could learn from this.
On somewhat of a tangent from the original conversation I'd like to read some acceptable ways that Kaepernick could have garnered national attention to his cause that would not receive backlash. What I'd like to see is how he could have circumvented this conversation about how he protested and gotten the conversation directly to the thing he protested for.
On somewhat of a tangent from the original conversation I'd like to read some acceptable ways that Kaepernick could have garnered national attention to his cause that would not receive backlash. What I'd like to see is how he could have circumvented this conversation about how he protested and gotten the conversation directly to the thing he protested for.
Your question pre-supposes that Kaepernick has done something positive and that what he has done will actually accomplish something. I don't think it will. He could have taken his star power and actually worked with communities to heal the animus between low-income blacks and the police. But, no he decided to try to blow things up. Almost everyone in this country does not want to have blacks or any other race treated improperly, and many of us have fought in the past to bring about the social justice that the loudmouths are claiming to be striving for. So just what has he accomplished?
On somewhat of a tangent from the original conversation I'd like to read some acceptable ways that Kaepernick could have garnered national attention to his cause that would not receive backlash. What I'd like to see is how he could have circumvented this conversation about how he protested and gotten the conversation directly to the thing he protested for.
The simple FACT is that he DIDN'T do something different.
Neither did a good number of other NFL employees.
Engaging in hypothetical ruminations and conjecture is not productive in any respect when confronted with the REALITY of what has happened.
If we are to go down the path you suggest, we might just as well spend our time hypothesizing about what would have happened if the Japanese had never bombed Pearl Harbor.
It's pointless mental masturbation, but feel free to pleasure yourself.
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The simple FACT is that he DIDN'T do something different.
Neither did a good number of other NFL employees.
Engaging in hypothetical ruminations and conjecture is not productive in any respect when confronted with the REALITY of what has happened.
If we are to go down the path you suggest, we might just as well spend our time hypothesizing about what would have happened if the Japanese had never bombed Pearl Harbor.
It's pointless mental masturbation, but feel free to pleasure yourself.
Can you name a single way that someone could cause national media attention about police brutality(or any other racial issue) AND garner a notion of "respect" from you?
Can you name a single way that someone could cause national media attention about police brutality(or any other racial issue) AND garner a notion of "respect" from you?
Can you name a single way that someone could cause national media attention about police brutality(or any other racial issue) AND garner a notion of "respect" from you?
IF that ever happens I might let you know.
I also might not.
In the meanwhile I am quite content to leave all of the preoccupation with racial and identity politics to you perpetually aggrieved and whining moron leftists.
I want you idiots to do a LOT more of the kind of childish antics that are the subject of this thread, because the more of it you do the further and further into the political abyss you pull the left in this country by showing the majority of Americans what you really are, helping to ensure that you will never hold power again.
..and that's a WONDERFUL thing.
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In the meanwhile I am quite content to leave all of the preoccupation with racial and identity politics to you perpetually aggrieved and whining moron leftists.
I want you idiots to do a LOT more of the kind of childish antics that are the subject of this thread, because the more of it you do the further and further into the political abyss you pull the left in this country by showing the majority of Americans what you really are, helping to ensure that you will never hold power again.
..and that's a WONDERFUL thing.
What I love is that you can't name a single method.
If you respected this country, you, and Trump, would respectfully disagree with a method of peaceful protest. It is no different than any other protest. Instead, he chooses to call them a "son of a ***** " in a speech. That is not respect, that is the utmost form of disrespect. You don't care about their methods, you care about punishing people you disagree with. This is one of the most extreme shows of cowardice I have seen on this forum, and it is sad. Respect the constitutional rights of Americans, and respect your fellow countrymen. Say you disagree, that is fine, but don't hide behind this "respect the flag" crap, actually have the balls to stand behind your real opinion. Want to look at the flag code? Go ahead, read it. I expect you to boycott every company that uses the flag in advertisement, everything the flag is printed on, and every time it is shown horizontally.
This ain't about the flag, this is about opinions. You would yell at them no matter WHAT they did.
Can you name a single way that someone could cause national media attention about police brutality(or any other racial issue) AND garner a notion of "respect" from you?
Can't speak for Randy.
But, I can't think of a single way to piss off more folks than this type of protest (speaking for myself).
There was a time in my life (before my knees went bad) that I assisted placing flags on Veterans graves on different holidays. I don't believe I ever saw a single grave marker or headstone where the race of the Veteran was noted. I personally knew (friends) of all races and I have who paid for your and my freedom and Constitutional rights with their lives. In my opinion, disrespecting our flag is no different than pissing on their graves. I really don't believe they thought this through before jumping on the band wagon.
NFL players, entertainers, celebrities and others have huge resources they could invest/utilize to make dramatic social impact and yet they chose to disrespect my flag and those that others have paid the ultimate price to protect. I can't say what each of these SOBs could do to make their point and eliminate racial issues but, this sure as hell ain't the way to change. The NFL is made up of 70% black Americans. The NFL was/is the biggest show in town currently, it draws the biggest advertising dollars, the Super Bowl is the show to watch for most Americans. I'll not be watching any NFL activities until this crap is stopped. It saddens me greatly to see such a display of disrespect. They can do it but, just because they can doesn't mean they should.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
I won't suggest there aren't racial issues in the US and the world but, this is pure You can insult me all you want but if you can't respect the flag that stands for all those rights you now exercise, then find another flag.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
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Once again, kneeling is not considered disrespectful according to flag code. The fact that you guys are so triggered by this has no basis in any fact. There are many things the flag code says are disrespectful, including using it as clothes and for advertising, but kneeling is no where part of this.
I'm a Viet Nam vet and I'm not a fan of Kapernik but I fully support the first amendment. I'm a little bit curious if any of those who are upset by his protest have served their country. First amendment is one of the things That I did my service for.
is NOT a First Amendment issue, good to know you have no clue of the thinks you fight for..
All these protest, kneeling, locking arms and such are phony displays meant to stroke the player egos. In time they will tire of the protests and go back to standing during the National Anthem because the newness of their woke state will have worn off.
However, Trump’s argument of American pride will not have changed. This enduring approach will be exactly the same a year from now.
Who’s the winner?
Trump.
So, learn a lesson.
When you protest make it stick, don't look like a dick.
Once again, kneeling is not considered disrespectful according to flag code. The fact that you guys are so triggered by this has no basis in any fact. There are many things the flag code says are disrespectful, including using it as clothes and for advertising, but kneeling is no where part of this.
LOOK A TEACHER WITH NO CLUE.
NATIONAL ANTHEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU STAND, NOT KNEEL.. HAS ZERO TO DO WITH THE FLAG CODE.. other than looking at it while singing it..
What I love is that you can't name a single method.
If you respected this country, you, and Trump, would respectfully disagree with a method of peaceful protest. It is no different than any other protest. Instead, he chooses to call them a "son of a ***** " in a speech. That is not respect, that is the utmost form of disrespect. You don't care about their methods, you care about punishing people you disagree with. This is one of the most extreme shows of cowardice I have seen on this forum, and it is sad. Respect the constitutional rights of Americans, and respect your fellow countrymen. Say you disagree, that is fine, but don't hide behind this "respect the flag" crap, actually have the balls to stand behind your real opinion. Want to look at the flag code? Go ahead, read it. I expect you to boycott every company that uses the flag in advertisement, everything the flag is printed on, and every time it is shown horizontally.
This ain't about the flag, this is about opinions. You would yell at them no matter WHAT they did.
All of your pictures show people bringing politics into their workplace, and using that workplace to push their political views upon their paying audience, who actually paid to see something else.
You don't see that as a problem?
To answer your question about what these celebrities could do to further their goals.....
Sponsor gatherings of police and residents of disadvantaged neighborhoods so that both groups can talk about their concerns.
Use their bully pulpit in the media (but outside the workplace) to put out a message that personal responsibility and hard work pay dividends in this country. This could be done by the Players Associations sponsoring media advertising, holding educational workshops with young people, media talk show appearances...
Work with Big Brothers/Big Sisters
Any positive message that fosters communication between the police and the residents of the 'oppressed' segment of the population
And importantly, doing it on their personal time, not the time that others have paid for to watch them perform their career specialty. That time doesn't belong to them, it belongs to the paying ticket holders.
Except apparently, Dale Ernhardt Jr who tweeted congrats to the NFL players for being courageous.
I think he's had too many speed barrier incidents.
They didnt say you couldnt give an opinion. Dale hasnt got on his knee. Dale is a loser anyway. He always rode on daddys name. He should have retired 5 years ago. He isnt relevant anymore...just has fans...also because of his name. The only NFL players that are courageous are the ones like the former ranger who stood with hand over heart despite what he was told to do. Blacks are always ' courageous' in groups, but most are cowards alone...at least that ive seen. Ones that will argue with a gun in their face may not be cowards...theyre just stupid or mentally ill.
BTW, recall the OUTRAGE back in 2010 when Tim Tebow took a knee to say a prayer?
I wonder what's different now?
What's different? Tebow is white. The media and leftist extremists hate whites. Which brings up my question, can someone explain white guilt to me. If you've never done anything wrong why should you feel guilty because of your skin color?
Ah, the Internet equivalent of plugging your ears and going "nananananana I can't hear you!" because you don't have an argument to make anymore.
Posts like these make me happy.
This is evil incarnate.
I find no happiness in another's demise. Heck, I find no happiness in the supposed demise of another's even.
I am happy that you post.
Edit: Could you please fix your pictures?
NSFW
@ Threedog...
What do you think about black racism?
There are thousands of hours on Youtube that has black racism. It is everywhere, allowed, and even promoted. I am NOT asking for equal time. I want all idiots to stop being idiots.
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