Without mods? No. Turbo will require some modifications, like a different MAP sensor, possibly better ignition, different spark plugs, and a reporgrammed module for the ECM.
I wouldn't put more than about 8 PSI through a stock 2.8 though.
Thanks for the reply sorry I was a little vague. From what I have been reading it sounds like a good idea to change out some of the ignition components. A better coil such as Accel is affordable.
Will my 5 speed handle the extra hp with out changes?
Thanks for the reply sorry I was a little vague. From what I have been reading it sounds like a good idea to change out some of the ignition components. A better coil such as Accel is affordable.
Will my 5 speed handle the extra hp with out changes?
I don't know what the condition of your clutch is, but it might be a good idea to upgrade it too. Just don't try to launch hard on boost or shift hard into peak boost and you should be fine. People run the Getrag with 4.9 and 3800 swaps, so a 2.8 with a small turbo at ~8 PSI peak should be fine, as long as the clutch is good and you don't thrash it to pieces.
Oh, and you'll need injectors. I'm not sure which other injectors fit exactly, but I think I've seen Mustang 17 lb-hr injectors mentioned before that can be used.
I've got a naturally aspirated 3800 with the stock 5 speed Getrag (and a Spec 3+ clutch). I rarely launch hard but I haven't had ANY slippage and nothing's blown up.
Where do I get a Getrag trans? Is this after market or did they come from the factory on GM cars? My 96 Camaro had a 3800 is this where you got it from or I suppose there were plenty of Gm's that came with this
Where do I get a Getrag trans? Is this after market or did they come from the factory on GM cars? My 96 Camaro had a 3800 is this where you got it from or I suppose there were plenty of Gm's that came with this
"'86-88 2.8L 5-speed "Getrag": This exact transmission is unique to the Fiero. According to the Hollander manual, five-speed transmissions from the cars below can be used if the shift arm is rotated 180 degrees. However Rodney Dickman (rodneydickman.com) advises this information is incorrect. Rodney makes a hardware kit which will allow these transmissions to be used with the Fiero. Transmissions which will work are: Cadillac Cimarron '87-88 gear driven speed sensor Chevrolet Beretta '87-89 2.8L gear driven speed sensor Chevy Cavalier '87 2.8L five speed, w/electronic speedometer Chevy Cavalier '88-89 2.8L electronic speedometer Chevy Celebrity '87-88 gear driven speed sensor Chevy Corsica '87-89 2.8L gear driven speed sensor Pontiac 6000 '87-88 gear driven speed sensor Pontiac Tempest '87-89 2.8L gear driven speed sensor
Five-speed Getrag transmissions from the cars below can be used in the '86-88 2.8L 5-speed Fiero by switching the speed sensor, shift arm, and/or speedometer cable. The shift arm must use the Rodney Dickman kit to work. Cadillac Cimarron '87-88 cable drive speedometer Chevy Cavalier '87 2.8L five speed w/cable drive speedometer Chevy Cavalier '88-89 2.8L cable drive speedometer Olds Firenza '87 2.8L five speed
Other 1987-94 GM cars (Pontiac Grand Prix, Pontiac Grand Am, etc.) used a similar Getrag 5-speed transmission but the linkage system for the slave cylinder and release arm is different than the Fiero. On these transmissions the release arm is inside the transmission and the slave cylinder mounts to the bell housing. Rodney Dickman offers an adapter that allows this version of the Getrag 5-speed to be used in the Fiero. http://fierosails.com/TransMan.html
50% of the current hp? I've heard differing ratings for the V6 this is an 87 SE. I've heard 120 and 145. Can it be setup to be strong in a RPM range of your choosing? For example I like the mid to high end.
Originally posted by slider: Thanks for answering!
50% of the current hp? I've heard differing ratings for the V6 this is an 87 SE. I've heard 120 and 145. Can it be setup to be strong in a RPM range of your choosing? For example I like the mid to high end.
Stock HP rating is 135-140 for the 2.8. With 8 PSI peak boost, you can expect around 200-210 HP at the crankshaft.
As for where it will be strongest, it's just a matter of how you tune the setup.
Where do I get a Getrag trans? Is this after market or did they come from the factory on GM cars? My 96 Camaro had a 3800 is this where you got it from or I suppose there were plenty of Gm's that came with this
Not sure about this question. I believe the 5 speed transaxle in an 87GT is a Getrag. Mine was until I swapped in a later model 6 speed.
BY the way, I run a 383 sbc and never had trouble with the Getrag
Where do I get a Getrag trans? Is this after market or did they come from the factory on GM cars? My 96 Camaro had a 3800 is this where you got it from or I suppose there were plenty of Gm's that came with this
The Fiero uses a transaxle like a FWD (front wheel drive) car. The Camaro doesn't.
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Originally posted by 2.5:
Rodney makes a hardware kit which will allow these transmissions to be used with the Fiero. Transmissions which will work are: Cadillac Cimarron '87-88 gear driven speed sensor Chevrolet Beretta '87-89 2.8L gear driven speed sensor Chevy Cavalier '87 2.8L five speed, w/electronic speedometer Chevy Cavalier '88-89 2.8L electronic speedometer Chevy Celebrity '87-88 gear driven speed sensor Chevy Corsica '87-89 2.8L gear driven speed sensor Pontiac 6000 '87-88 gear driven speed sensor Pontiac Tempest '87-89 2.8L gear driven speed sensor
Five-speed Getrag transmissions from the cars below can be used in the '86-88 2.8L 5-speed Fiero by switching the speed sensor, shift arm, and/or speedometer cable. The shift arm must use the Rodney Dickman kit to work. Cadillac Cimarron '87-88 cable drive speedometer Chevy Cavalier '87 2.8L five speed w/cable drive speedometer Chevy Cavalier '88-89 2.8L cable drive speedometer Olds Firenza '87 2.8L five speed
Originally posted by garage monster: Not sure about this question. I believe the 5 speed transaxle in an 87GT is a Getrag. Mine was until I swapped in a later model 6 speed.
BY the way, I run a 383 sbc and never had trouble with the Getrag
Yes, the stock 5 speed in all V6 Fieros was the Getrag 282. The only way it wouldn't be the 282 is if someone swapped a different trans in, it was a 4-speed (85-86), or an automatic.
I am sure he did not beef up the suspension at all. Look at v8 archie's site, he has tons of info about this. I run an LT1 in an 86 with the 5 speed transmission. The suspension is stock on my car. When it runs (long story) it runs like a raped ape. I do not recommend the 5 speed on a drag car but a daily driver works fine.
I agree with the stock Getrag being able to handle a turbo 2.8. I ran that and a turbo 3.4, and have a 3800sc. I have stomped on it few times and it has not exploded.
I think manual transmissions in general have to be build to handle at least twice the torque of the engine they are bolted. Simply, consider the jolting and shock they take, the spikes in torque would easily shatter gears at the engines rated torque.
Do we have a manufacturers confirmed torque rating for our little Getrag?
If so I need to get a torque gauge on my dash so I don't exceed it!
I'll go with the figure of 200ft lbs for a sound good condition Getrag 5 speed trans as that's what one of the GM designers told me years back. Lots of swaps use this box with higher torque and for short bursts/limited WOT use they seem to hold up fine. Clutch drops, or repeated 1/4 mile runs where the torque applied is way over spec will bring a different result.
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