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Swapping in a newer Getrag transmission by fierosound
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Information pulled together from several threads (thanks guys).
Wiki on transmission: https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...rag_282_transmission

These are circa 1989-1994 Berreta/Cavalier Getrag trannys - note location of arm on clutch fork - INSIDE the bellhousing.
Some may have HTOB (Hydraulic Throw Out Bearing - also useable)
If they come from a V6 car, the transmission will bolt directly to the V6 2.8L V6.

Sometimes you may find a Quad-4 Getrag that's too good to pass up (new or low miles)
You can have a transmission shop change the bellhousing half of the Quad-4 Getrag transmisson to a V6 bellhousing.
Tips: //www.fiero.nl/forum/A...100421-2-095259.html

With a Quad-4 trans you'll need the bellhousing from a V6 Getrag (you probably have a worn out V6 tranny anyway)
When you swap an original Fiero bellhousing, you'll only need the Cable Linkage Conversion Kit below.



Here's the scoop on parts needed for newer FWD V6 Getrag transmission as pictured above in our Fiero application.

In some cases you may have to split the case to change the gear for the VSS. (speedometer)
Dickman has the gear $25: http://rodneydickman.com/pr....php?products_id=330
Instructions with pictures //www.fiero.nl/forum/A...120111-2-104858.html

You use this transmission with stock Fiero Getrag 5-speed shift cables and stock clutch slave cylinder.

Use the stock Fiero select cable bracket - or new one from Rodney if you don't have one. $24
rodneydickman.com/product_info.php?products_id=184


You will need these FWD transmission conversion items from Rodney...

- cable linkage conversion kit $75
http://rodneydickman.com/pr...o.php?products_id=58



- shift cable bracket $67 (if you don't have factory one)
http://rodneydickman.com/pr....php?products_id=184



- slave cylinder adapter $55
http://rodneydickman.com/pr...o.php?products_id=52


Dickman's brackets (in blue) pictured below. Slave cylinder bracket not shown here.



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The bracket for the Select Cable will need to be bolted on.
The transmission already has pilot holes that need to be drilled and tapped for the bolts.

Here are close up pics of what has to be drilled, and one with the select bracket installed.



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Reverse light switch...


Original switch GM part number is 10075403 (from P22 parts book - but GM likes to recycle numbers)
http://www.gmpartsdirect.co...&partnumber=10075403
http://www.gmpartsgiant.com...tch-as-10075403.html

Fiero Store original type switch http://www.fierostore.com/P...%20%205SPD&d=342&p=1



An alternative http://www.reddevilriver.com/Related_Products.html

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Originally posted by fierosound:


In some cases you may have to split the case to change the gear for the VSS. (speedometer)
Dickman has the gear $25: http://rodneydickman.com/ca...h=28&products_id=330
Instructions http://www.rodneydickman.com/n36.html
With pictures http://centralfloridafieros...dex.php?topic=1119.0



The later Getrags have a magnetic VSS that produces ~24,000 PPM. This will match up to a lot of the later PCMs. (Matched the 4.9, perfectly.)
It may also work with a 7730, depending upon the application.
You will still need the buffer circuit to connect with the speedo output of the PCM, and the speedometer.
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Report this Post07-11-2016 07:40 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierosoundEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Getrag 5-speed cable routing.
http://www.meisners.net/Fiero/TSB/TSB88714.htm

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We're looking for a back-up transmission to use in our Fiero-truck Lemons vehicle. Is there any information on the specific vehicles the Quad-4 Getrag were found in? We have the spare bellhousing already available from a blown 282.

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Originally posted by DonP:

We're looking for a back-up transmission to use in our Fiero-truck Lemons vehicle. Is there any information on the specific vehicles the Quad-4 Getrag were found in? We have the spare bellhousing already available from a blown 282.


Getrag MG-284 w/Quad 4 engine
Chevrolet Lumina, Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme, Pontiac Grand Prix,

Quad 4 engine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quad_4_engine

Getrag w/Q4
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...rag_282_transmission

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Regarding using Quad-4 FWD Getrag trannys with swapped bellhousing...
//www.fiero.nl/forum/A...100421-2-095259.html


From: www.rodneydickman.com

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Report this Post05-23-2020 12:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierosoundEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Facebook FIERO Group has a files download section with manuals.
Join group and download Muncie_Getrag 5-speed.pdf
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2204429635/files/

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For those of us that don't have facebook, if you want to send me the files, I can host them and put up a link here so anyone can download them.
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Report this Post05-23-2023 11:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierosoundEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Another site with PDF manuals and more
https://fieroinfo.com/
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