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Fiero Monster by 4thfiero
Started on: 02-17-2016 02:14 PM
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Also i found this

http://www.getrag.com/en/pr...h_Transmissions.html

sources for dual Clutch trannys yes??? I wonder if they will bolt to my ecotec!
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What DonP and his crew did to the rear suspension was basically give up on it .They really liked the way the front end worked but decided they could not gain anything more from the 88 fiero rear suspension so they sold the car and built a mid engine Sonoma truck with the 3800 sc and the multitude of left over fiero stuff .The suspension in the rear of the truck is a double wishbone SLA .And after that he stopped posting because the thread was not fiero related any more . For the good info about the 88 rear suspension, go to the other link and then go to Bloozes new website .There is a link on the second last page .Blooze's new site is easier to find stuff on cause you don't have to sort through the endless comments .
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Also i found this

http://www.getrag.com/en/pr...h_Transmissions.html

sources for dual Clutch trannys yes??? I wonder if they will bolt to my ecotec!


Yes, Getrag makes some. However, not for GM. Like I said, there are no DCTs in GM's current lineup. Even the Z06 is still just an automatic. I'm pretty sure Getrag do not make any DCTs with an Ecotec bell pattern. You would need to adapt one of the Fiat-Chrysler or other applications to the Ecotec using an adapter plate. And then you'd need to figure out the wiring, get a steering column/wheel with the paddles to control it, etc…
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Could u explain to me how that adapter plate thing works...bcc its in between the tranny and the engine...doesnt that push the tranny too far away??? how does the tranny still engage when the adapter plate is pushing it an inch or more away from the engine??? Could i adapt one of the Getrag ones? or do i HAVE to use the Fiat or crysler ones...
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Could u explain to me how that adapter plate thing works...bcc its in between the tranny and the engine...doesnt that push the tranny too far away??? how does the tranny still engage when the adapter plate is pushing it an inch or more away from the engine??? Could i adapt one of the Getrag ones? or do i HAVE to use the Fiat or crysler ones...


You make a custom flywheel.

I think Getrag might make the ones for Fiat-Chrysler. I don't have all the details. I just know that Fiat-Chrysler is one of the few manufacturers that use a DCT in transverse configuration. Getrag don't manufacturer things for consumers. They manufacture transmissions for vehicle manufacturers. You will need to find a production vehicle that uses a DCT transaxle, and then adapt that into a Fiero using an adapter plate and at least a custom flywheel, to use it. You'll also need a controller for it that will work with the GM ECU. I don't know if PCS or any other aftermarket trans controller manufacturers have an option for any DCTs yet. You may also need more engineering/fabrication work to get it mounted. I don't know exactly what all is needed beyond the obvious mounts/adapter/flywheel/axles/electronics aspects yet.
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My 2014 Ford Focus has a 6 speed dual clutch automatic .The more expensive models have paddle shifters .This trans has been very problematic though .With only 23000 KM on it I had the clutch pack replaced under warranty .Ford had to totally redesign the clutch pack to stop a slippage problem common to these cars .Now that is fixed , it works great .But it would be hard to get one from a wrecker because how would you know if it was fixed or not ?
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My 2014 Ford Focus has a 6 speed dual clutch automatic .The more expensive models have paddle shifters .This trans has been very problematic though .With only 23000 KM on it I had the clutch pack replaced under warranty .Ford had to totally redesign the clutch pack to stop a slippage problem common to these cars .Now that is fixed , it works great .But it would be hard to get one from a wrecker because how would you know if it was fixed or not ?


I guess i would buy one and get the clutch pack replaced anyways?
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It is probably not a good option for you .I think the reason the high horse power ST models only come with manuals is because these automatics are on the weak side .But if you can find a dual clutch auto that could be made to work it would be a big advantage on the track .Turbo cars work a lot better with autos .On a short track like the one I was on at the 25th anniversary it would not help. At Woodland Hills I drove the whole track in 3rd gear .At redline in 3rd , I am at 100 MPH .I did that once on the main straight and just barely kept the car on the track at the next corner .On a longer track where you have to do a lot of shifting , your turbo will fall off boost a lot and cost you time .
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It is probably not a good option for you .I think the reason the high horse power ST models only come with manuals is because these automatics are on the weak side .But if you can find a dual clutch auto that could be made to work it would be a big advantage on the track .Turbo cars work a lot better with autos .On a short track like the one I was on at the 25th anniversary it would not help. At Woodland Hills I drove the whole track in 3rd gear .At redline in 3rd , I am at 100 MPH .I did that once on the main straight and just barely kept the car on the track at the next corner .On a longer track where you have to do a lot of shifting , your turbo will fall off boost a lot and cost you time .


Interesting, i was under the impression the ST comes with the dct...?

I guess i can make any dct work with my setup as long as i get an adapter plate and mounts...and a controller. ill try and do some more research, bcc i agree they would be awesome.

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http://gmauthority.com/blog...clutch-transmission/

Apperantly GM will be getting a dct that bolts to ecotecs !!!!
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