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Donald Trump cuts off trade talks with Canada, "effective immediately" by blackrams
Started on: 06-27-2025 09:46 PM
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Donald Trump cuts off trade talks with Canada, "effective immediately"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/m...d18a3db2c56496&ei=48

Our second largest trading partner. Looks like that may change...................

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Report this Post06-28-2025 01:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike in SydneySend a Private Message to Mike in SydneyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Only time will tell but I’m betting that we have Tex-Mex for dinner. TACOs are my favourite.
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Originally posted by Mike in Sydney:

TACOs are my favourite.


OK, (not making fun here) have a question. Did you misspell favorite or is that the way it's spelled down under?

Had tacos last night here also.

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Report this Post06-28-2025 08:12 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike in SydneySend a Private Message to Mike in SydneyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Nope. F-a-v-o-u-r-i-t-e is the way it’s spelled in Australia and many other countries in the English Commonwealth. So is colour and a few others. It took me several years to get used to it, too.

BTW, the only time I get good Tex-Mex, tacos, enchiladas, quesadillas, refried beans, etc. is when my wife cooks them or when we get to the U.S. and get to our favourite (there’s that spelling again) Mexican restaurant.
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Originally posted by Mike in Sydney:

Nope. F-a-v-o-u-r-i-t-e is the way it’s spelled in Australia and many other countries in the English Commonwealth. So is colour and a few others. It took me several years to get used to it, too.

BTW, the only time I get good Tex-Mex, tacos, enchiladas, quesadillas, refried beans, etc. is when my wife cooks them or when we get to the U.S. and get to our favourite (there’s that spelling again) Mexican restaurant.


I suspected such was the case. I am aware of English Commonwealth spelling issues somewhat.

Reference you getting Tex-Mex and the other things mentioned, we can help out there. Now that SCOTUS has agreed that our "Illegal Immigrants" can be exported to nations other than their country of origin, all ya gotta do is tell us how many you want.

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Let the new tax in the BBB hit Canada and see who cries uncle first. While it is unlikely, the US tech companies could also just cut off services to Canada.
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Originally posted by Mike in Sydney:

TACOs are my favourite.


The entire world is becoming more and more aware of the chicken content.

 
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...the US tech companies could also just cut off services to Canada.


Not happening. Too much money to be made, tax or no tax.
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Report this Post06-30-2025 03:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ray bSend a Private Message to ray bEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
fascist snake oil salesman

what else has he ever been ?

just a fascist snake oil salesman
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ray,
I'm still looking and waiting for that Stock Market collapse you predicted................. Yeah, the market has had it's ups and downs but.................

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Originally posted by Patrick:

The entire world is becoming more and more aware of the chicken content.


I'd suspect the Ayatollah might have some thoughts about that.
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The entire world is becoming more and more aware of the chicken content.
Not happening. Too much money to be made, tax or no tax.


I suppose tacos can be made of chicken. One can make a hotdog taco. I have never seen a chicken taco on any menus around here. About 90 miles from Mexico.
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Who chickened out?


Canada cancelled its digital services tax.

https://www.theglobeandmail...ada-us-trump-carney/

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Originally posted by blackrams:

ray,
I'm still looking and waiting for that Stock Market collapse you predicted................. Yeah, the market has had it's ups and downs but.................

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happen but not forever

IF one missed 37k DOW down from 45K
ONLY NOW RETURNING TO NEAR JOES NUMBERS
AFTER 6 MONTHS IN RUMP RULE
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Oh, do you mean the way the market fluctuates all the time? Not sure if you’ve forgotten to take your meds or, overdosed on them.

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Originally posted by Doug85GT:

Canada cancelled its digital services tax.


Yes, Trump's hissy fit (ending trade talks) got a concession from Canada... but as expected, it's led to talks being resumed again. Unfortunately, Trump is also now back to harping on his infantile "51st state" bullsh!t. All that this accomplishes is steeling the resolve of Canadian negotiators. I suspect that behind the scenes, American negotiators roll their eyes every time Trump opens his mouth.
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Trump's hissy fit...


 
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You nailed it!
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Originally posted by Patrick:

Yes, Trump's hissy fit (ending trade talks) got a concession from Canada... but as expected, it's led to talks being resumed again. Unfortunately, Trump is also now back to harping on his infantile "51st state" bullsh!t. All that this accomplishes is steeling the resolve of Canadian negotiators. I suspect that behind the scenes, American negotiators roll their eyes every time Trump opens his mouth.


Perspective, it's all about perspective. Call it whatever you may but, the fact is, concessions were made. I fully expect that eventually those in charge up north will recognize DJT places America first in his priorities. Play fair or else. The trade tariffs imposed by other countries were by far not in the US's best interest. President Trump intends to level the playing field.

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Originally posted by blackrams:

Play fair or else.


Yep, the world needs to recognize that the right honorable Donald J Trump is now calling the shots. No more will the US of A be taken advantage of by every horse trader on the planet.

And if you believe any of that, you've probably been swallowing the hogwash that Trump sycophant, Karoline Leavitt, has been spewing on a daily basis.

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Yep, the world needs to recognize that the right honorable Donald J Trump is now calling the shots. No more will the US of A be taken advantage of by every horse trader on the planet.

And if you believe any of that, you've probably been swallowing the hogwash that Trump sycophant, Karoline Leavitt, has been spewing on a daily basis.


As I said, Perspective, it's all about perspective. Tell me again, who conceded...........................

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Tell me again, who conceded...


If you pull Karoline's nose out of Trump's azz (and clean her up a bit), she'd be delighted to tell you that Canada "caved" on the digital services tax.

Negotiations aren't won or lost over one concession. Trade talks have resumed, and that's ideally what Canada wanted.

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Originally posted by Patrick:

If you pull Karoline's nose out of Trump's azz (and clean her up a bit), she'd be delighted to tell you that Canada "caved" on the digital services tax.

Negotiations aren't won or lost over one concession. Trade talks have resumed, and that's ideally what Canada wanted.


As I've previously stated, comments (like the above) and insults thrown have no influence except to show you in a very bad light. I have no doubt about how those "negotiations" will end.

Edited: Oh yeah, forgot to ask, do you have any idea on when your "leadership" will (if ever) start pulling their weight with NATO. You always seem to ignore that question.

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I have no doubt about how those "negotiations" will end.


Let's hear it!

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Originally posted by blackrams:

As I've previously stated, comments (like the above) and insults thrown have no influence except to show you in a very bad light.


Where exactly in this thread have I insulted any forum member? Unlike yourself...

 
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Not sure if you’ve (ray) forgotten to take your meds or, overdosed on them.

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Originally posted by Patrick:

Where exactly in this thread have I insulted any forum member? Unlike yourself...

[QUOTE]Originally posted by blackrams Here:

Not sure if you’ve (ray) forgotten to take your meds or, overdosed on them.

[/QUOTE]

A valid point, ray b's view of reality seems skewed which is why I commented. Admittedly, I have questioned his views before. Apologies to ray b.

 
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I have no doubt about how those "negotiations" will end.

Edited: Oh yeah, forgot to ask, do you have any idea on when your "leadership" will (if ever) start pulling their weight with NATO. You always seem to ignore that question.

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Reference how this will end, I expect a more leveled playing field. Actually, I'm hoping some of those US owned businesses and factories located in other countries (to include Canada) will move their production to the US. But I do realize that will be a very expensive move and unlikely to happen. New facilities though are a different issue.

Still ignoring the question on Canada keeping its word and paying its's agreed to share of a NATO Defense?
Does living under our umbrella make you feel safer?

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Originally posted by Patrick:

If you pull Karoline's nose out of Trump's azz (and clean her up a bit), she'd be delighted to tell you that Canada "caved" on the digital services tax.

Negotiations aren't won or lost over one concession. Trade talks have resumed, and that's ideally what Canada wanted.

I agree with this, though I am deeply disappointed at Canada caving to a tariff threat, especially when we know the chance of a TACO reversal is near-universal. It was an extremely awkward tim to flinch, and I think they've enabled him to continue using TACO tactics that are extremely destabilizing to the stock market and economy.
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I am deeply disappointed at Canada caving to a tariff threat, especially when we know the chance of a TACO reversal is near-universal.


I was initially a bit surprised at the decision... but this digital services tax was originally mandated by the previous federal government, and perhaps the current administration (under new PM, Mark Carney) has different goals in mind in regards to negotiating a fair trade deal with the US. Carney is nobody's fool, I suspect he's thinking/planning several steps ahead.

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Originally posted by Patrick:

I was initially a bit surprised at the decision... but this digital services tax was originally mandated by the previous federal government, and perhaps the current administration (under new PM, Mark Carney) has different goals in mind in regards to negotiating a fair trade deal with the US. Carney is nobody's fool, I suspect he's thinking/planning several steps ahead.


Any opinion of PM Carney's plan for NATO membership?
Please advise, does Canada have any crickets? Just asking for an honest opinion of Carney's view/policy on NATO.

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