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A Barn Find and a piece of Fiero History by Thunderstruck GT
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you now have an illegal vehicle to operate, or even own based on the stickers.

What do you plan to do with it ?
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Lastly, the car sat in a ploe barn, on a dirt floor, with the driver's window down for 15 to 20 years.

It just burns me up when some asshat either willfully neglects, or purposely destroys something because they devalue it. "This POS? I'm far too lazy to roll the window up... let the next guy worry about that."
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GM sold a lot of their Heritage Collection at Barrett-Jackson labeled the same way. No one, not even GM seemed to mind.


Pretty darn sure those cars are sitting in Museums somewhere.
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What is that white/brown stuff in the trunk? It starts out white, but time/rust seems to turn it brown.
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Any idea what they were digging for there?
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Interesting none the less. Cool story.
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So without a MSO or previous title, what do you intend to do with the car? How are the tail lights?
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Like mentioned, someone vandalized the car. Both seats, both carpets and the passenger door pocket was cut.


Geez some people are azzholes.

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Nice find. Depending on the state that your reside in, you may or may not be able to secure a title or registration for on road use. If your state issues historic plates then it can most likely be registered and driven as a hobby vehicle. Despite the abuse it still appears to be in decent condition. A bit of work should get the car back to where it should be. The Fiero Store sells all of the trim moldings so you can buy the one with the marker light from them.

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I thought that the donated GM vehicles had no VIN. With a VIN you can get a title. In VA you would pay about $200 to run the VIN and check to see if it was listed as a stolen vehicle. If it comes back clean, the state issues you a new title. That is how it works for "normal" cars, I've done it. If you can't get a title, I'd invest the money it takes to clean it up like new and then try to sell it to someone who has a collection. There are folks who would pay a good price for a clean, never driven car like that. I'm not talking 20-30K, but 10K for sure.

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...he was a jerk and she was a Beee itch. That is why I think he is the one that vandalized the car.


I don't know if they had children (hopefully not), but it's sure easy to see how kids get all messed up.
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If you can't get a title, I'd invest the money it takes to clean it up like new and then try to sell it to someone who has a collection. There are folks who would pay a good price for a clean, never driven car like that. I'm not talking 20-30K, but 10K for sure.

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I would sure like to know where to find those folks. I have been trying to sell my less than 1900 original miles 85 2M4 for more than a year with no success, and it is already clean with good title.
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NICE - absolutely brilliant that you have a piece of fiero history there and looks like you got all the options added.

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I know people that have 'illegal' unlicenseable cars. They use either Historical, Collector or Dealer tags to drive them to shows...but not as family drivers.

When i was in high school, Mopar was big on donating cars. I took auto shop myself. They even had a couple of Mopar mechanics that would booby trap the cars and had contests to see what school could diagnose and repair it the fastest.

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I have been trying to sell my less than 1900 original miles 85 2M4 for more than a year with no success, and it is already clean with good title.


Is there a link to a current advertisement?

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The car is definitely a piece of history that should not be parted out. A little elbow grease and it would look a lot better. There will be parts on the car that do not look like production parts.

One thing that you need to understand is that 1) The car cannot be titled. There was never a MSO issued , so a VIN search will show that the car was never technically a vehicle that conforms to the Federal laws of the definition of a motor vehicle. This car is different than a vehicle that was sold new by a dealer that has a VIN plate on it with no valid title. So, the thought that it has a VIN plate affixed to the car does not make it eligible to have a title, simply because Pontiac did not certify it as a vehicle for public sale and consumption. 2) The liability disclaimer stickers stuck on the car are null and void. They had some meaning before 2009, but GM went out of business and is new corporation where this car was not claimed as an asset of the new corporation. So don't be too concerned about the language of the stickers.

The SPI tag on the left front inner fender well should have the RPO codes, WD1-Pilot Build Vehicle and WU4- Not certified for sale outside of GM Corporation. It is the WU4 RPO code that kills the chances of getting a title. It is by no means illegal to have this car in your possession as it is nothing more than an asset. But it is very illegal to drive it on a public road.

This car is a great find, and I hope that you take the steps to preserve it the way it is.

If you think that you might want to sell the car, drop me a line.

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