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A Barn Find and a piece of Fiero History by Thunderstruck GT
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Originally posted by mrfred8:

found these on ebay (note image will go red x when ebay listing goes stale)


I had to re-size them to a maximum width of 1024 pixels for PIP, but these images will still be here when the sun goes supernova.



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I had to re-size them to a maximum width of 1024 pixels for PIP, but these images will still be here when the sun goes supernova.





The third pic, that is what Fieros should be, I want that kit.

Edit to add: that first pic is misleading, it is painted as an 88, but the car is an 87. You can see the e-brake cable in the back, and the front rims have the offset. Why do I notice these things.?.?

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Originally posted by RAREW66:
A tip that I can give in seeing if there is any residue left on the glass from stickers or decals that have been removed. On a cool morning, fog up the windows on the inside. You might surprise yourself with what you find. My real pace car opened up like a book with all the window markings that proved it one of the three pace cars.
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Have you tried Fred's tip yet?

If not I would before I had the windows professionally cleaned

Just a thought....................

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I fail to see how a small piece of re-purposed styrofoam will help remove that wheel lock. Won't it just crumble?
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Have you considered welding hex nuts to the wheel lock nuts to get them off?
Or maybe you're determined to save them... At least McGard is nearby.
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Originally posted by David Hambleton:

Have you considered welding hex nuts to the wheel lock nuts to get them off?
Or maybe you're determined to save them... At least McGard is nearby.


Being that they are assembly line locks and they have never been off I want to save them.

Other than cleaning it, I want to try and get the car mobile yet keep it as close to as found as I can.

The rotors are rusty, the brakes are seized and 2 tires go flat. Unfortunately, the only way to fix all that means the wheels need to come off.

The person I talked to at McGard all but guaranteed me that they will still have a tool/key readily available. I have an auction in the morning and after that I'm headed over to McGard.
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Originally posted by Thunderstruck GT:

It's an interesting piece. You set the key portion into the lock's pattern, then screw the outer collar over the outside of the lock. This firmly seats the key into the lock for easy removal.

And only $14.99


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That's kind of an interesting gizmo. I like the idea that it can "lock" itself to the nut during removal.

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Maybe I can shed some light on this car and having a vin #.

Usually the cars given to auto shops schools are dealer donated, not manufacturer donated, unless they live in Flint or something like that where there is an actual factory there. So they would be just something off the dealers lot and of course have a vin. #

The cars given to movies on the other hand generally don't have Vin.# or even blank plates because they are just for use in a movie or TV show. I think a while ago we had a thread in OT about someone selling one of the CSI Tahoe's or whatever they were. it had no Vin.# ether and the complications of that can get screwy when it comes to getting a title in some states that require titles.

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Dang. Be careful when cleaning it.
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Bead blast it.
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Haha!!

That's a neat piece of Fiero history you turned up there. Thanks for sharing the photos.
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"Pilot Build" Vehicles are Vehicles made during Manufacturing Validation Process, these vehicles are assembled with Production Intend parts, however they are not Production Approved at the time, only design intent so that assembly and/or Manufacturing Assembly Changes to part design can be requested. Many times these vehicles are assembled with parts that were rejected by quality control, as they are unsaleable vehicles. That would explain the wheel / tire sprayed in red paint as some defect existed on that one that couldn't be used on a Production Release Vehicle.

In other words, if you have to build Manufacturing Validation Vehicles that will be scrapped, you try to save as much money as possible by using below spec parts that can't be used on Production Cars.

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This just gets cooler and cooler
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Apply for a custom title....like you made it yourself. It's vin doesn't exist yet in the books, so why not "build" your replica, then title it? I've never done this, or researched it so I don't know if it's even possible......just thinking out loud.
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I used to be an Instructional Assistant at the local vo-tech. 80% of our vehicles were manufacturer donations, though I never got to see the "behind the scenes" as far as paperwork, etc. We had an 04 Impala that was donated directly from GM. It's roof was crushed by the car carrier it was on, but ironically the sunroof was intact and still operated. Others were flood vehicles and lemon law buybacks. We also had an 05 Jeep Grand Cherokee that had "mud" made out of bedliner sprayed all over it. It was used in a commercial. I have pics but won't post them here, I've already hi-jacked enough. I know that all of the Mopar products had a contract signed, that the VIN tags were to be removed and returned along with proof of the vehicle being crushed when we decided we were done with them.

I can't wait to see what all you find as you keep digging into this car. It's a dream come true for a lot of people, myself included!
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Originally posted by Thunderstruck GT:

As long as I am alive this car will never get a title.

Titling a vehicle of this nature would ruin its history.


WHOA! EASY YOSEMITE SAM! Holster yer piece and come back to the table! So far, this is just a discussion.......it's not like he's talking about putting a ricer wing on it or anything.
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Very cool find. Kind of like a cracker jack box with a prize inside. Thanks for posting this. It's almost like we got to dig through the car with you. Very informative.
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LOL!

No need to holster anything there Mr. Fudd just stating the fact.

If and when I pass this car along to another owner it will only go to another collector who I know will know to do the same.

I am also being very careful about what gets restored. I am hitting as many sources as possible to get as much of the history of the car as possible. If indeed GM was the one that damaged the vehicle, whatever damage they caused will stay as is or if repaired, the damaged items will be saved and recorded..


Well if this is how you feel then if or when you want to sell it you should defiantly call RAREW66 (Fred) first I am pretty sure he lives in a Fiero museum or he has one in his back yard with lots of collectible Fieros and memorabilia. He is the man to preserve this Fiero.
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Well if this is how you feel then if or when you want to sell it you should defiantly call RAREW66 (Fred) first I am pretty sure he lives in a Fiero museum or he has one in his back yard with lots of collectible Fieros and memorabilia. He is the man to preserve this Fiero.


If you want to know what Fred has you have to come to the Heartland show. He brings out all the fun stuff for everyone to see and has a great time at a BBQ at his house/museum after.

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If you want to know what Fred had you have to come to the Heartland show. He brings out all the fun stuff for everyone to see and has a great time at a BBQ at his house/museum after.

Scott



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Also sure if you bring this car there will be lots of comparing between this and Freds pilot car and other prototypes.

Just be careful Fred might just convince you that it should be part of his collection too

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Wow. Hard to believe that is the same rotor. Very nice.

There is a lot of rust there, with the sway bar, control arm, end links, brake hose brackets, etc. Is that next up?
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How are the brake lines under the car? Mine are the most rusty thing on the whole car.

Sorry. Didn't mean to put down your find. Oh, no! What happened to the aluminum? I replaced all the rusted portions of the trunk on a former Fiero with aluminum, then coated it and fiberglassed it. I figured it should hold for another 30 years.

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