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Mattwa's 4.9/4T60E swap. by mattwa
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35 key on engine off and holding, and 32 engine running is OK.

The books say more, but thats the numbers that really happen.

I would say keep looking, fuel pressure is OK.

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I own your page number 8 Matt !!!
Suck it up Buddy !!!

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Well regardless of good pressure or not, looks like my 26 year old fuel lines have started leaking on me. They were very rust to start with, but me trying to remove the filter yesterday must have done something to finally start a leak. Not sure exactly where, but it doesn't matter as I now really need to replace them.
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Well, look at it this way, there short !!!

A guy could use a rubber line rated for fuel injection, as long as they are routed away from moving and HOT parts.
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Matt call me before u replace your lines
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Update on the fuel lines, looks like the fitting I bought in the mail were the wrong size, almost seems like the ad lied. I don't know what to do about the lines now, at least at the fuel rail section. I really hate those GM metric fuel fittings. Anyone know what size line that is even? I bought a bunch of 3/8", but that seems overkill looking at the size of the lines that's on there now. I don't know at this point.

In other news, I got my SMC filler today, plan to work on my spare decklid tomorrow to fill the holes. I also got a distributor cap cover from a 4.5, I really like the difference.
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Originally posted by mattwa:

Anyone know what size line that is even?


3/8" line is what I used.

Fittings:
Both of the caddy fuel rail connections are 14mm x 1.5. The fiero side is one 14mm x 1.5 and one 16mm x 1.5. You can adapt to AN lines pretty easily but be prepared as the cost really skyrockets. Cost is generally $100+ depending on line choice. They look really cool though!

Here is one of the adapters you'd need to do it as a reference...
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/EAR-991954ERL/

So total you need three of the 14mm x 1.5 to -6 AN and one 16mm x 1.5 to -6 AN adapters. Then you need the AN fittings and hose to connect everything.

If you have access to a GM fuel line flaring tool you can re-use the old fittings and bend stainless line. This is my preffered method as I appreciate the original steel fittings over the aluminum aftermarket. The tool is spendy though. Of course there are cheaper methods too but I they have been covered many times so I wont go into them. Nice looking coil cover Matt!

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Thanks, I don't want to go that route though, too expensive. In my case, I'm replacing the lines all the way to the tank, because they are rusted, as I said they started leaking on me. So now I think I'm going to get some 5/16 line and use that along with my 3/8 line. My goal is to get to from the tank to the fuel rail with no rubber lines.
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You need to have some sort of flex in the lines somewhere. Any engine movement can fatigue and eventually break all solid lines. If you follow the fiero rubber lines down you will find them hose clamped on near the tank anyway. Double clamped on the pressure side. Any method will work just keep a little bit of flex in there somewhere. Later Matt.
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Yea, that's true, I should give it some flex between the frame and fuel rail, even though my engine barely moves, it could be enough to break something in the future.
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Well today I removed all my old fuel lines and started making the new. They look SO much better already. I started at the fuel rail and worked my way down. Wasn't a really fun time either, getting gas everywhere, piece of rust in my eye. Yea. Still isn't done though, gotta connect up the remaining new lines and get a new fuel fitler.

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Looks great!
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Looks great!


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Nice work. Are those the Dorman fuel line repair ends?
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Nice work. Are those the Dorman fuel line repair ends?


Yes they are. The whole system down to the rubber hose on the sending unit is being replaced. All lines were rusted.
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Nice job! I like it!
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Today I finished the remaining fuel lines, and after a few minor issues with a piece of hose, it is currently running great with no leaks that I can see. The new lines look much better, and I was even able to use a new fiero fuel filter. However, I still created more potential leak points then before.

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No new updates, being working on the newest Fiero in the family, Skye. Goldie feels lonely and jealous, so I'm taking her to school tomorrow (more on that in a sec).

I got pictures today of all four Fiero's around the neighborhood since Alex stopped by.



In other news, I start college again tomorrow. Yay.
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In other news, I start college again tomorrow. Yay.


Get expertise, get degree, get money, get real car.
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He already has a REAL car !!!

As can be seen, he has a driveway FULL of them !!!

Even his friends drive a REAL car !!!
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I agree Paul, except without going to expensive luxury sedans and such, a main reason why I enjoy Fiero's so much is because I can actually fit in them comfortably, being 6' 5", it's more difficult to find cars that I can fit in, that I can afford.
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... that I can afford.


Right, school's going to remedy this. Good luck with classes.
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Right, school's going to remedy this. Good luck with classes.


I can surely hope so. Thank you.
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Today I installed a few things. A TLG decal, and LED 3rd brake light, along with a PFF username decal. Both on my rear window. Also got the TLG LED side marker light kit in the mail too yesterday, so I'll be installing those sometime soon, hopefully, without breaking them.
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Today I finished installing my LED side marker lights after my delay of breaking two of them, and they look awesome!! Such a nice upgrade. They look better in person, it's hard to get a good picture in daylight or pure darkness.


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So now I got a hard SES code again. It will not go away, so I know it must be something looking into. My bet is EGR again, but regardless, I really need to get a code scanner.
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Got the code checked today, I didn't get to see the number, but was EGR system fault. Again. Ugh, oh well, I got it cleared. I can't pull any vacuum off the EGR valve, i'm sure it's still bad. Almost wanna delete that system and rid of the code/programming for it.

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I'm finally getting my gold Fiero put back on the road
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I just wanted to post some pictures I got from Vernon8360 via email of Goldie and myself, and my parents, and my friend Danielle at the 2nd annual Tyler Shipman Car Show! Thanks for the pictures Art!
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Nice pics your car looks great!
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I gotta admit Goldie does look really good in those pictures! The re-painting of the black trim made a huge difference. Great shots Art!
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Just for the record, last tank of gas I got 17.6MPG all city. I have lead foot syndrome at times so that may have effected it.
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Just for the record, last tank of gas I got 17.6MPG all city. I have lead foot syndrome at times so that may have effected it.


Yup !!!

Last highway/city I checked mine I got 29.

I need to update to a 4.9 if I am going to get any better huh?
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That's my all city mileage, all highway is 30 MPG.
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Today I was in a spray painting mood from painting Skye, so I painted some silver on Goldie today. I was going to do the other side of the fuel rail but I ran out of silver paint.
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whens the next car show out there?
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whens the next car show out there?


Well there is always a large car show at Quaker Steak n Lube every Sunday, usually 300 cars on a nice day.
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I'm looking for one where there will be a few local fieros.
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Um, when my friend Alex is over, our driveway is a good place to start. Lol, with 4 fieros I don't think you'll see as many in one place around here.

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Well while going to pull-a-part today, my fuel pump started making the really bad sound that it did eariler in June or July, like a big vibration. and my SES light came on, AGAIN, for the EGR fault most likely. I'm getting tired of this, hopefully fixing it will improve highway gas mileage even more.

But my 255's are pretty much shot, they are worn down past the warning marks and are becoming scary to drive on at times. Most likely going to do some tire swapping soon. Damn Alignment killed the tires.
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Took off the 255's today, and put on the rear tires from Skye. They have more tread on the outside compared to the 255's so my bad alignment will finish these tires off.

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Alignments are less expensive than tires.
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