Barrett did his best dodging the question for the entire election. The main stream press was complacent in not pressing him for a real answer. Finally on Thursday before the election Walker asked Barrett twice during the debate to get a non-answer.

Tax and spend

and borrow and steal (aka Jim Doyle)

quote Originally posted by Rodney: This is how they get around saying they are not raising taxes. Raise or create new fees. During the recall Barrett was ask multiple times where he was going to get the money. He finally answered and said he did not want to raise taxes if he was elected. Good answer. He said he did not want to. He never promised he would not. Smart guy. Rodney

quote Originally posted by frontal lobe: Regarding Walker "buying" the election by getting donations 20 million dollars higher than Barrett, where were those people in September 2011 saying that BIG UNION money bought the recall elections then?

Compare the ACTUAL money spent and things are much closer. The left likes to conveniently ignore the third party money spent in this election. The UNION ads were running non-stop, just like the pro-Walker ads.

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quote Originally posted by cliffw: Nope, I don't agree. I would be more inclined to believe Toddster, but I don't. I don't believe the dumbocrats can learn any more than I believe the repulsivecans can learn. There is no way to classify a belief of the voters. I am inclined to believe that the catch phrase I heard is true. A catch phrase of the Scott Walker effort. "The trend is my friend". He had a record to run on.

If that were the case no one would ever change parties or philosophies. My mother was a Kennedy Democrat. She even campaigned for George McGovern and voted for Jimmy Carter. But at a dinner party with Governor Jerry Brown in 1980 Brown ask "who were these Reagan Democrats" and my mother said "I'm one". When asked why by the Governor she simply replied "I grew up".

Change is inevitable. And although neither major party has a monopoly on goodness or virtue, the GOP right now at least understands Big Government = Bad. And some Americans are starting to get that. Wisconsin has been a blue state for decades, and has gone no where but down hill as a result, just like California, Michigan, etc. They voted GOP out of desperation in 2010 and they are seeing positive results as the debt is under control again, jobs are up, and there is finally some fairness being practiced. This vote was a vote of re-assurance to Walker saying, keep it up!

quote Originally posted by frontal lobe: That is entirely true. AND YET, for the September 2011 recall elections, UNIONS spent 21 to 23 MILLION DOLLARS MORE supporting the Democratic candidates, than the Republican candidates had to spend. That means more then 23 MILLION dollars collected by non-monolithic union members got monolithically contributed to Democratic candidates. I wonder why when union membership in certain unions in Wisconsin became VOLUNTARY, the enrollment reduced in one union from 60,000 to 25,000. I often hear "it's a free country" as a cry from people. Well, here is a group of people that were given freedom of choice back, and exercised it. Regarding Walker "buying" the election by getting donations 20 million dollars higher than Barrett, where were those people in September 2011 saying that BIG UNION money bought the recall elections then?

Ah, I suspect some are a bit nostalgic for the good ol days when organized labor strong armed their way right thru 'free' elections and ALWAYS delivered on their promises or the teamsters just threatened to shut down a stste's commerce till the state capitulated to their demands. Jimmy Hoffa must be rolling in his unknown grave.

quote Originally posted by frontal lobe: Regarding Walker "buying" the election by getting donations 20 million dollars higher than Barrett, where were those people in September 2011 saying that BIG UNION money bought the recall elections then?

I have another question. All those whining about how Walker got out of state money helping his campaign, where were you complaining that big union bussed in half the protesters at the Capitol and had out of state union help organizing and campaigning for the candidate they wanted that lost to Barret, and then for Barret ?

quote Originally posted by Marvin McInnis: Union members are far from a monolithic bloc. Not all union members are Democrats, just as not all of those who attend church regularly are Republicans.

True. Interesting stat about how union workers voted:

The Wisconsin Voter

Union households were a significantly bigger force this time, making up 33% of the vote compared with 26% of the vote in 2010, a definite boost to Barrett. But despite Walker’s prolonged conflict with labor, he didn’t do any worse with the union vote this time than he did in 2010, according to exit polls. He won 37% of union households in 2010 and 38% in 2012 — about the number that polls show represents the percentage of voters in union households that are Republican.

quote Originally posted by cliffw: All those whining about how Walker got out of state money helping his campaign, where were you complaining that big union bussed in half the protesters at the Capitol and had out of state union help organizing and campaigning for the candidate they wanted that lost to Barret, and then for Barret ?

That's gotta be the most convoluted and hard to understand question I've ever tried to follow. I hope that's not the cliffs notes version.....

quote Originally posted by blackrams: Interesting and noted.

Yes, it was MARKED AS SUCH, and I CHOSE to enter it AS IT WAS MARKED.
But my comment was anything BUT political.
It was a comment about hypocrisy.

What is "Interesting and noted" is that those who were flexing their intellectual muscle over "the other sides" use of the word "FORWARD", chose not to comment on the use of the very same word by "their side".

It appears the hypocrisy is not as one sided as "the good guys" would have you believe..

(the below is not directed at you, Blackrams)

As far as me posting in this thread, I never said I don't or won't post in POLITICAL threads, just that it SHOULD BE MARKED AS SUCH for it to BE POLITICAL.
I guess following the rules is ALSO something the usual suspects have a different version of how "it works".

And even if i didn't follow the rules, "Marking the subject don't mean sh!t. It's not YOUR thread, you can't control it".
Remember?
Hmmmm.

And I am not A BIT supprised at who it was that just had to specifically comment about me posting here (as if I EVER said I don't or won't) DESPITE being fully aware of all of the above.
And not about WHAT I wrote, but simply THAT I wrote.
So pitiful to know that is the complexity of their childish joy.
Maybe this oldy will serve them well in the future:

"When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things." ~ 1 Corinthians 13:11

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It will indeed, just as it always has and always will.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: As far as me posting in this thread, I never said I don't or won't post in POLITICAL threads, just that it SHOULD BE MARKED AS SUCH for it to BE POLITICAL. I guess following the rules is ALSO something the usual suspects have a different version of how "it works".

This is NOT COOL JazzMan, as soon as Boondawg finds out you've stolen his PFF password, there's going to be hell to pay...


Todd

quote Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: This is NOT COOL JazzMan, as soon as Boondawg finds out you've stolen his PFF password, there's going to be hell to pay... Todd

With out a smiley, that just looks like a cheap attempt at discounting someone who telling a truth you don't want to hear.
With a smiley, that would have been a CLASSIC!
The smiley makes all the difference.

Unless you were trying to tell me something directly.
If that is the case, my name is "Boondawg".

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quote Originally posted by cliffw: All those whining about how Walker got out of state money helping his campaign, where were you complaining that big union bussed in half the protesters at the Capitol and had out of state union help organizing and campaigning for the candidate they wanted that lost to Barret, and then for Barret ?

quote Originally posted by maryjane: That's gotta be the most convoluted and hard to understand question I've ever tried to follow. I hope that's not the cliffs notes version.....

FAIL ? Heh, and I have been sitting on that thought for days.
cliff notes ... the losing side decries out of state help except when it helps them.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: With out a smiley, that just looks like a cheap attempt at discounting someone who telling a truth you don't want to hear. With a smiley, that would have been a CLASSIC! The smiley makes all the difference. Unless you were trying to tell me something directly. If that is the case, my name is "Boondawg".

Boonie... EVERYTHING I say is sarcasm most of the time, so a smiley face should be put after every post I make.


Todd

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I just now got around to clipping this classic soundbyte from Dan Conry's gloatfest last Sunday.

Enjoy !