Yellowstone, I work with a chef from Germany. Very intelligent and insightful gentleman. We talk alot about his country & my country, much in the same context of subjects that get talked about around here.
VERY interesting comparing the two ways of modern life. We talk about his countries past, too. I have gained some rather new insight into that, as well as how the average German working man's life is going today.
He gives the impression that business & life in Germany is pretty good. Good wages, low crime, good health, and people are pretty damn happy.
Uh, who attacked who? Grow a brain...THEN coment. Everyone has a right to defend themselves, which brings us back to:
The Point...the VALID Point, that Nazi Germany enforced strict gun control for the simple reason that a disarmed populous is helpless against their government. Nothing has changed in that regard. That is why we have the 2nd ammendment. And the fact that it is the second is significant.
Damn those crazy right wingers!! (kidding people, I know we've been through that discussion more than once on here)
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yellowstone Member
Posts: 9299 From: Düsseldorf/Germany Registered: Jun 2003
Long-term causes of the war included the imperialistic foreign policies of the great powers of Europe, including the German Empire, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the Ottoman Empire, the Russian Empire, the British Empire, the French Republic, and Italy. The assassination on 28 June 1914 of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, the heir to the throne of Austria-Hungary, by a Yugoslav nationalist in Sarajevo, Bosnia and Herzegovina was the proximate trigger of the war. It resulted in a Habsburg ultimatum against the Kingdom of Serbia.[10][11] Several alliances formed over the previous decades were invoked, so within weeks the major powers were at war; via their colonies, the conflict soon spread around the world.
Uh, who attacked who? Grow a brain...THEN coment. Everyone has a right to defend themselves, which brings us back to:
The Point...the VALID Point, that Nazi Germany enforced strict gun control for the simple reason that a disarmed populous is helpless against their government. Nothing has changed in that regard. That is why we have the 2nd ammendment. And the fact that it is the second is significant.
MYTH why do you post UNTRUE BS over and over
THEY ALLOWED PEOPLE TO HAVE LONG GUNS
the germans never disarmed the populous and the nazi's had no new gun laws EXCEPT FOR THE JEWS
PLENTY OF OUR AIRMEN WERE CAPTURED BY ARMED FARMERS WHEN SHOT DOWN
SORRY BUT HITLER DIDNOT DISARM HIS PEOPLE
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OKflyboy Member
Posts: 6607 From: Not too far from Mexico Registered: Nov 2004
Can we now move on from the Nazi stuff and get back into the discussion if anybody cares to do so? My god, there are some people a bit obsessed here...
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Originally posted by ray b: the germans never disarmed the populace and the nazis had no new gun laws EXCEPT FOR THE JEWS
thanks for that. did some research, which puts an interesting twist on the argument. looked at 8 websites, some of them pro-gun. the nazi law of 1938 extended the previous law of '28, which imposed government control over possession of firearms and ammunition. this '28 law was put in place by the Weimar Republic to suppress the violence of both bolsheviks and fascists who were engaging in massive street battles. while on the face of it this suggests that gun control was not particularly "fascist", it also suggests the more sinister possibility that well-intentioned efforts to control weapon possession can be perverted by later administrations. to say that weapon possession by those unsympathetic to the nazis would have changed anything is speculative at best, but with gun control the outcome seems far more certain.
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Originally posted by yellowstone: Can we now move on from the Nazi stuff and get back into the discussion if anybody cares to do so? My god, there are some people a bit obsessed here...
please accept my apology. it is not my intention to harp on the naziism question, but to explore the implications of gun control in the context of any government or nationality. we can ask similar questions about the soviet union, turkey or uganda.
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Boondawg Member
Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
My god, there are some people a bit obsessed here...
Becouse it ain't about what you originally posted. It's about your audacity to question this countries wanton use of firearms against each other. Communist.
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OKflyboy Member
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Becouse it ain't about what you originally posted. It's about your audacity to question this countries wanton use of firearms against each other. Communist.
Or sometimes its about the evolution of a thread. Just because the OP wants a topic to go a certain way (guilty of that myself) doesn't mean the participants will go along with it (guilty there, too). Can't control people's thoughts or reactions... life's funny that way.
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Boondawg Member
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Or sometimes its about the evolution of a thread. Just because the OP wants a topic to go a certain way (guilty of that myself) doesn't mean the participants will go along with it (guilty there, too). Can't control people's thoughts or reactions... life's funny that way.
(kidding people, I know we've been through that discussion more than once on here)
did some research, which puts an interesting twist on the argument. looked at 8 websites, some of them pro-gun.
