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Tina Fey is Baaaack! Palin suppling SNL with plenty of one lined zingers. by madcurl
Started on: 04-11-2010 12:13 PM
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Flip-flopping through the tulips.



http://www.politifact.com/t...pport-cap-and-trade/

Palin flips on her support of cap-and-trade

Shortly after announcing she would resign as Alaska's governor, Sarah Palin wrote an op-ed column in the Washington Post lambasting the cap-and-trade bill.

"I am deeply concerned about President Obama's cap-and-trade energy plan, and I believe it is an enormous threat to our economy," she wrote on July 14, 2009. "It would undermine our recovery over the short term and would inflict permanent damage."

She said jobs will be shipped overseas, energy sector workers will lose their jobs and electricity bills will skyrocket, echoing points that many other Republicans have used in arguing against the bill.

"Do we want to outsource [work] to China, Russia and Saudi Arabia? Make no mistake: President Obama's plan will result in the latter. For so many reasons, we can't afford to kill responsible domestic energy production or clobber every American consumer with higher prices," she wrote.

Did we mention her op-ed was called "The 'Cap and Tax' Dead End?"

Clearly, Palin is no fan of cap-and-trade.

Before we get to Palin's history on the issue, here's some background on cap-and-trade, a proposal to slow climate change. The bill Palin lambasts was authored by Reps. Henry Waxman of California and Edward Markey of Massachusetts. It would cap carbon emissions with the long-term goal of lowering them by 83 percent by 2050. In the meantime, companies would either have to buy permits from the government to continue polluting or trade them with companies who don't produce enough pollution to meet the government-imposed limit.

Several readers wrote to us after the op-ed was published suggesting Palin had flip-flopped. We should note that this isn't the first time Palin's opinions on climate change have earned her a place on the Flip-O-Meter; in a Sept. 11, 2008, interview with Charles Gibson of Good Morning America , Palin insisted that she's always considered climate change a product of human activity, but we found she had made a Full Flop.

As for her stand on cap and trade, it too has shifted.

Before she became Sen. John McCain's presidential running mate, she did not endorse cap-and-trade outright. When she was named as a possible choice, a U.S. News and World Report column said she had no public position on the legislation but that she had shown signs of being interested in the concept.

During her first few months as governor, Palin created a subcabinet on climate change — a group of advisers assigned to find ways to lower the state's greenhouse gas emissions.

"The state's interest in curbing emissions represents a new emphasis for Palin, who pronounced herself unconvinced about global warming science during her campaign for governor last year," said an April 13, 2007 article in the Anchorage Daily News .

Palin's interest in climate change back then may have had something to do with her state's location. Because of its high latitude, the arctic state has felt the impacts of climate change sooner than the rest of the world.

More than a year later, the subcabinet announced that it would come up with a plan for major industries in the state — oil production, forestry, transportation — to try to reduce climate change.

In the fall of 2007, Palin became involved with the Western Climate Initiative, a coalition of Western states and Canadian provinces with the goal of slowing climate change, according to her Web site. The group established a regional cap-and-trade program in September 2008, but Alaska does not have to meet those goals because it is designated in the group as an observer, not a partner.

Palin became more direct about cap-and-trade when she teamed up with McCain, a Republican who famously went against his party in 2003 by introducing a cap-and-trade bill with then-Democrat Joe Lieberman. McCain stuck with his pledge to to lower emissions during the campaign, writing in the March 18, 2008, edition of the Financial Times that "the risks of global warming have no borders."

Palin echoed McCain's platform in the Oct. 2, 2008 vice presidential debate against Joe Biden. (It's on YouTube . Skip to the 29-minute mark to hear her talk about climate change and cap-and-trade.)

During the debate, Palin emphasized the importance of energy independence, of "cleaning up the planet" and of "encouraging other nations to come along with us." She went on to say, "We've got to reduce emissions."

"We've got to become more energy independent for that reason also. ... As we rely on other countries that don't care as much about climate as we do, we're allowing them to produce, and to emit, and to pollute more than America would ever stand for."

When debate host Gwen Ifill asked Palin whether she supported capping carbon emissions, her answer was unequivocal:

"I do," she said. "I do."

It's worth noting that Ifill did not ask Palin if she supported cap-and-trade specifically. But Palin's comments make it clear she at least supported the "cap" part. (Indeed, although the caps have generated most of the opposition, capping and trading are inextricably linked. If you cap emissions, you need a mechanism like the trading to provide incentives for companies to reduce their emissions.)

Fast-foward to Palin's recent op-ed in the Washington Post and it's clear that she has done a dramatic reversal on the issue. She was in favor of capping emissions as McCain's running mate and is now writing op-eds blasting the idea. We see that as a Full Flop.

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Originally posted by maryjane:

I'm not at all surprised that the irony of you making a complaint regarding someone else's word use went zooming right over your head.





One more for Mary's record.


 
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Originally posted by washingtonmonthly:

http://www.washingtonmonthl...l/2009_07/019065.php


The Atlantic's Conor Clarke explained that Palin's op-ed suggests she "does not understand cap and trade." Clarke added that Palin's piece "displays an ignorance for the subject so profound it's almost gutsy. Almost." Jon Chait said it "has that 9th grade, five paragraph essay style along with random bits of right-wing jargon sprinkled throughout in appropriate contexts."

As a political matter, Palin's op-ed was probably the first in a series of steps to give people the impression that she knows something about public policy. She's about more than poorly-written Facebook messages, poorly-written Twitter messages, and poorly-written speeches -- she's also willing to publish poorly-written newspaper pieces.




That's enough "proff" for you, hehe.
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Someone else's opinion? Proof of nothing but the writer's bias and speculative sensationalism.

Keep trying tho. Who knows? You may even convince yourself some day.
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Originally posted by maryjane:

Someone else's opinion? Proof of nothing but the writer's bias and speculative sensationalism.

Keep trying tho. Who knows? You may even convince yourself some day.


 
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http://www.huffingtonpost.c...palins_b_351844.html

Readers definitely will get a sense of Sarah Palin's unique writing skills. When she expounds on her rise from small-town mayor to governor to vice presidential candidate, she uses no punctuation whatsoever. She covers twelve years in politics with one very long sentence.




More "proff" hehe.


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That's enough "proff" for you, hehe.


Uhhh....Conor Clarke? A 23 year old self proclaimed Marxist with a pissed-off at the world blog who has never held a job, public office, or done pretty much anything in his life? Or are we talking about some other "worldly and experienced" Conor Clarke whose opinion might actually matter?

Is that seriously the best you can do?
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Uhhh....Conor Clarke? A 23 year old self proclaimed Marxist with a pissed-off at the world blog who has never held a job, public office, or done pretty much anything in his life? Or are we talking about some other "worldly and experienced" Conor Clarke whose opinion might actually matter?

Is that seriously the best you can do?


Well, it's the best he's done so far, and it's an improvement-- considering his previous political guru was Tina Fey.
Still, fail is fail.

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Is that seriously the best you can do?






 
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http://www.chicagonow.com/b...tackles-spanish.html
My problem with Sarah Palin using this expression is that she should learn how to speak the English language more eloquently before she starts peppering her speeches with the Spanish language.

Palin has Tweeted that peaceful Muslims should "refudiate" the idea of building a mosque near Ground Zero in New York. Of course "refudiate" is not a word in the English-language.

She even joked about it comparing herself to Shakespeare.


Palin also should learn a thing or two about syntax. Or how about learning how to speak coherently?

From the Katie Couric interview:


It's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where--where do they go?


From the Charlie Gibson interview:


I know that John McCain will do that and I, as his vice president, families we are blessed with that vote of the American people and are elected to serve and are sworn in on January 20, that will be our top priority is to defend the American people.


Remember how Kitty Burns Florey tried to diagram these sentences in an awesome essay she wrote for Slate?

Impossible!

And now Palin is teaming up to defend her amiga, Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer, who has launched a Web site called Secure the Border to defend SB1070. It's convenient that she blames President Obama for chaos at the border when in actuality his administration is deporting immigrants at a higher rate than under the Bush Administration.

Brewer needs to stop exaggerating the immigration issue by making statements like claiming most undocumented immigrants are drug mules or that crime is out of control on the U.S. side of the border when it's actually down. Palin also should do her homework before she rushes to defend such an ill-informed politician.

The pair of them are so much alike that its frightening. I could think of some names to call then in Spanish but I will refrain.

I like what Texas Sen. John Cornyn joked on Twitter.

Cornyn Tweeted, "I didn't know Gov. Palin was bilingual!"

Obviously she's not. I don't see her as a strong proponent of bilingual education either which makes her use of Spanish even more ironic.

She should try to master the English language before she tries to speak Spanish.

¿Comprende?


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