quote Originally posted by pokeyfiero: So, you think she is presidential material?

Yes. Although, after this vacuous "community organizer" that was elected, that doesn't mean what it used to.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: Yes. Although, after this vacuous "community organizer" that was elected, that doesn't mean what it used to.

Is the ***** presidential material?
Sounds kinda like you are comparing to me.



Not because she is lesser of two evils.
Not better than Obama.
Not better because she has balls bigger than most men in this country.
Not better just because she has tits and gets your pecker hard when she spouts out a bunch of stuff they had to spoon feed her while they taught her basic geography.

Whats better? Being the toilet paper or the plunger? Wanting either means you don't understand **** .

quote Originally posted by pokeyfiero: Is the ***** presidential material?

Yes. And don't be a misogynist, calling her a "b*tch". Not cool. Let's treat women with some respect.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: Yes. And don't be a misogynist, calling her a "b*tch". Not cool. Let's treat women with some respect.

Oh John. Make no mistake about her. She didn't get where she is being Miss Manners. She is a bulldog and a player. You misunderstand. I don't call her that to be mean. It really is the only thing I like about her.

Tell me what is presidential about her.

Is it her commanding knowledge base that she has at her disposal?
Is it her extensive foreign affairs experience that entices you?
How about her calm steady demeanor that says I think about things before I do them?

I don't want to put words into your mouth. I want to hear what is so awesome about her besides her wardrobe.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: Yes. Although, after this vacuous "community organizer" that was elected, that doesn't mean what it used to.

She may have been in the 1970s--maybe even the 80s early 90s--not in 2012 tho. She is nowhere near mean enough, ******* enough and strong enough to do what this country needs done to itself. Not even close.

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quote Originally posted by maryjane: She may have been in the 1970s--maybe even the 80s early 90s--not in 2012 tho. She is nowhere near mean enough, ******* enough and strong enough to do what this country needs done to itself. Not even close.

I am agreeing with you.
She has done a great thing for the country in waking up the women to the fact that liberal policies are destructive to America, and future generations.
Though some will argue that Obama should get the credit for that.

Obama, Palin tied 46/46 in 2012 polling

No, this is not coming from Rasmussen or an internal GOP poll, but from the normally Democrat-sympathetic Public Policy Polling. PPP pitted Barack Obama against five potential Republican challengers for the 2012 presidential campaign, and the only one Obama beat was … Jan Brewer. Even that, PPP admitted, resulted from Brewer’s lack of name recognition. The headline, though, is Sarah Palin’s dead heat with the President:

With his approval numbers hitting new lows it’s no surprise that Barack Obama’s numbers in our monthly look ahead to the 2012 Presidential race are their worst ever this month. He trails Mitt Romney 46-43, Mike Huckabee 47-45, Newt Gingrich 46-45, and is even tied with Sarah Palin at 46. The only person tested he leads is Jan Brewer, who doesn’t have particularly high name recognition on the national level at this point.

It’s not that any of the Republican candidates are particularly well liked. Only Huckabee has positive favorability numbers at 37/28. Romney’s at 32/33, Gingrich at 32/42, Palin at 37/52, and Brewer at 17/20. But with a majority of Americans now disapproving of Obama it’s no surprise that a large chunk of them would replace him as President if they had that choice today.

There are two things driving these strong poll numbers for the Republican candidates. The first is a lead with independents in every match up. Romney leads 48-35 with them, Gingrich is up 50-39, Huckabee has a 46-40 advantage, Palin’s up 47-42, and even Brewer has a 38-37 edge.

In case one wonders whether PPP’s sample is to blame, the partisan split favors Democrats by five points, 39/34. That’s probably overstating the actual size of the gap and the percentage of Democrats in the general population, which means that the independents got short shrift as well. Also note that this poll surveyed registered voters, not likely voters — a sampling technique that would tend to favor Democrats and Obama a little more.

The news is almost uniformly bad for Obama in the poll. His approval rating is now seriously underwater at 45/52. That gets even worse among independents, 40/56. He doesn’t get above 46% in any matchup with Republicans, not even Jan Brewer, whom he beats 44/36, with 20% undecided.

For Palin, the numbers show she can play against Obama. She pulls 8% of those who voted for Obama in 2008 and 35% of those who “don’t remember” (?!?), which puts her on par for outreach with Gingrich (9%, 40%), Romney (9%, 32%), and slightly better than Huckabee (6%, 32%). If that’s not vindication for those who argued that Palin couldn’t do as well with unaffiliated voters, it’s cetainly something close to it.

Update: There seems to be some confusion in the comments over the number of people who claimed not to remember how they voted in 2008. That was 9% of the respondents in the survey (combined with those who voted third party). Since Obama won the 2008 popular vote by seven points (53/46) and this Dem +5 poll shows only 46% of respondents acknowledging their vote for Obama, I’d say it’s a healthy probability that most of that 9% voted for Obama and don’t want to acknowledge it now. Of that 9%, Palin wins 35%, Gingrich wins 40%, and so on.

quote Originally posted by fierobear:

Yeah, Bear, but you have to remember, this thread is only about a bimbo "entertainer" [cough cough] with only about 4 braincells to rub together and those who idolize her onelined zingers--the first part of this sentence explaining why she (Fey) is only capable of stringing together those few words without suffering a complete mental lapse.

Having said that, I would not at all be surprised to see the dems dump The Messiah of Socialism in favor of Hillary Clinton in 2012.

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Cash strapped Fresno, but shelling out the dough to Palin. You go girl!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/...calif_palin_contract

FRESNO, Calif. – The foundation arm of a cash-strapped California public university paid Sarah Palin $75,000 to speak at a 50th anniversary gala, officials said Friday.

The former Alaska governor's speech last month at California State University, Stanislaus drew intense criticism and scrutiny and also attracted sizable donations for the public school. According to school officials, it raised more than $207,000 for the university, making it the most successful fundraiser in the campus's history.

Officials refused to divulge the terms of her contract or her speaking fee until Friday.

Additional details only came to light after students fished part of what appeared to be Palin's contract from a rubbish bin. That prompted California Attorney General Jerry Brown to launch an investigation into the finances of the university's foundation arm and allegations that the nonprofit violated public disclosure laws.

The material recovered by the students detailed perks such as first-class airfare for two and deluxe hotel accommodations. The school's foundation said those expenses amounted to $2,500.

The funds raised by the gala were intended to help pay for scholarships and a variety of pressing campus needs, which the foundation was to determine after consulting with university officials.

The rural university, like dozens of other public colleges, has had to cut some classes and cancel several scholarships as a result of California's ongoing financial woes.

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quote Originally posted by madcurl: Cash strapped Fresno, but shelling out the dough to Palin. You go girl! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/...calif_palin_contract FRESNO, Calif. – The foundation arm of a cash-strapped California public university paid Sarah Palin $75,000 to speak at a 50th anniversary gala, officials said Friday. The former Alaska governor's speech last month at California State University, Stanislaus drew intense criticism and scrutiny and also attracted sizable donations for the public school. According to school officials, it raised more than $207,000 for the university, making it the most successful fundraiser in the campus's history. Officials refused to divulge the terms of her contract or her speaking fee until Friday. Additional details only came to light after students fished part of what appeared to be Palin's contract from a rubbish bin. That prompted California Attorney General Jerry Brown to launch an investigation into the finances of the university's foundation arm and allegations that the nonprofit violated public disclosure laws. The material recovered by the students detailed perks such as first-class airfare for two and deluxe hotel accommodations. The school's foundation said those expenses amounted to $2,500. The funds raised by the gala were intended to help pay for scholarships and a variety of pressing campus needs, which the foundation was to determine after consulting with university officials. The rural university, like dozens of other public colleges, has had to cut some classes and cancel several scholarships as a result of California's ongoing financial woes.

Let me see here.

207 take away 75............. Wait a second,letme pull off my other sock. Umm what are you bitchin about again?

http://theweek.com/article/...ound-zero-mosque-jab

Sarah Palin's 'Ground Zero mosque' jab
Palin jumps into a local New York City zoning dispute and wreaks havoc with the English language — all in a single, provocative tweet
posted on July 20, 2010, at 12:00 PM

Sarah Palin has joined the fracas over a Islamic community center and mosque that's being proposed for a site two blocks from Manhattan's Ground Zero. In a series of what The Economist calls "lexicologically inventive" Twitter posts, Palin asked peace-seeking Muslims to "refudiate" the mosque as an "unnecessary provocation" after 9/11. Her mangling of the word "repudiate" aside, is Palin right, or wise, to jump into this dispute? (Watch a Fox discussion about Palin's comment)

quote Originally posted by madcurl: http://theweek.com/article/...ound-zero-mosque-jab Sarah Palin's 'Ground Zero mosque' jab Palin jumps into a local New York City zoning dispute and wreaks havoc with the English language — all in a single, provocative tweet posted on July 20, 2010, at 12:00 PM Sarah Palin has joined the fracas over a Islamic community center and mosque that's being proposed for a site two blocks from Manhattan's Ground Zero. In a series of what The Economist calls "lexicologically inventive" Twitter posts, Palin asked peace-seeking Muslims to "refudiate" the mosque as an "unnecessary provocation" after 9/11. Her mangling of the word "repudiate" aside, is Palin right, or wise, to jump into this dispute? (Watch a Fox discussion about Palin's comment)

The irony. A man incapable of even spelling the word "proof", now tries to make points by pointing out someone else's spelling/grammar errors?

madcurl is just following Rule #12:

quote Alinsky's Rule 12: Destroy the Individual RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.) Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals

quote Originally posted by texasfiero: madcurl is just following Rule #12: [QUOTE]Alinsky's Rule 12: Destroy the Individual RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.) Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals

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So that applies to the people here that can't stop ranting the same about Obama?

quote Originally posted by pokeyfiero: So that applies to the people here that can't stop ranting the same about Obama?

No, our criticism of Obama is justified, and backed up with evidence. Alinsky (and his followers) don't care about truth, evidence, proof or anything but "the end justifies the means." Also, it's not about Obama personally, it's about his policies.

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Hey--you spelled 'proof' wrong---just ask Madcurl. 1 o--2 f's.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: No, our criticism of Obama is justified, and backed up with evidence. Alinsky (and his followers) don't care about truth, evidence, proof or anything but "the end justifies the means." Also, it's not about Obama personally, it's about his policies.

There ya go!

Ooooh, big surprise HERE...

When McCain picked Palin, liberal journalists coordinated the best line of attack

Yeah, go Sarah!

Palin: Obama lacks 'the cojones' to tackle immigration

quote Originally posted by Washingtonpost: "the cojones"

That's SNL material right there.

quote Originally posted by madcurl: That's SNL material right there.

Who cares? She has the guts to say it. More power to her.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: Who cares? She has the guts to say it. More power to her.

Wow! SHe has guts. Hooray for her. She has guts and nothing to lose.

Maybe she just has no restraint.

Why not vote for me as president John? How do you think that would work out? I got guts.


It takes more to be a president. Palin for her outspoken guts or Obama for his popular well spoken demeanor. Neither are presidential material but both have the fanatical little minions.

It is hard to find great men in this day and age of political correctness and fanatical popular voting. Every little shiny object that passes by takes all our attention away.

What makes her presidential?

quote Originally posted by pokeyfiero: What makes her presidential?

She's actually RUN something, both in the public and private sector. Obama hasn't...and it shows.

quote Originally posted by pokeyfiero: What makes her presidential?

She can "refudiate" Pres. Obama.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: She's actually RUN something, both in the public and private sector. Obama hasn't...and it shows.

All you can do is compare her to Obama? I just told yuou Obama isn't presidential material!

You simply refuse to answer this question with any semblance of honesty.

[Grabs John's head and shakes violently] Do you understand I am not asking you who is better or who would do less damage?[/Grabs John's head and shakes violently]

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quote Originally posted by madcurl: She can "refudiate" Pres. Obama.

Wow. It's a good thing she's the only one who uses a malaprop.

John Unless someone else would like to explain it to you I can't. I said presidential.
It just may be that your definition of presidential has been watered down so much that you are happy with being ***** slapped instead of but ****ed.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: Wow. It's a good thing she's the only one who uses a malaprop.

Yeah, Palin uses hand instead and very Un-Maverick-y I might add ,hehe.

quote Originally posted by madcurl: Yeah, Palin uses hand instead and very Un-Maverick-y I might add ,hehe.

If no one else does it, that makes it maverick-y.

quote Originally posted by madcurl: Yeah, Palin uses hand instead and very Un-Maverick-y I might add ,hehe.

Curley, she will not win in 2012, which means she has one thing in common with Obama.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: Who cares?

Who cares?

Actually, the word "Cojones" is a vulgar word in the Spanish language and in some families using the word may result in one being slapped in the mouth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cojones
Cojones (s. cojón [koˈxon]) and huevos (eggs) are vulgar Spanish curse-word usages for testicles.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: She has the guts to say it.

She has the guts to say it? If you're gonna use it-at least try and use in the correct context.

http://www.npr.org/template...Id=128931647&ps=cprs
Secretary of State Madeleine Albright employed cojones when talking about Cuban military pilots who attacked civilian planes: "This is not cojones," she said, "this is cowardice." Albright's comment may not have been politically correct, but it was anatomically correct.

quote Originally posted by fierobear: More power to her.

More power to her?

What amazes me is that the Tea Party Brigade (TPB) here didn't post 8-10 threads regarding the vulgar word by Palin. Let's see-teabagging vs. Cojones-which one most Americans know the real meaning of the words?

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Pretty thin Curl

http://onlineslangdictionar...efinition+of/cojones

"2. describe courage."

quote Originally posted by Uaana: Pretty thin Curl http://onlineslangdictionar...efinition+of/cojones "2. describe courage."

A woman or for that matter a male-uttering the word in public is uncouth. Palin is indeed embarrassing her TPB.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/uncouth

 –adjective
1. awkward, clumsy, or unmannerly: uncouth behavior; an uncouth relative who embarrasses the family.
2. strange and ungraceful in appearance or form.
3. unusual or strange.

Well when she gets to heaven you will just have to scold her.

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quote Originally posted by madcurl: She has the guts to say it? If you're gonna use it-at least try and use in the correct context.

You, a person whose diatribes are legendary for a lack of context, proper grammar, syntax and spelling; giving anyone "lessons" in context?
That's so incredibly cute, not to mention being way beyond hipocrisy.

quote More power to her? What amazes me is that the Tea Party Brigade (TPB) here didn't post 8-10 threads regarding the vulgar word by Palin. Let's see-teabagging vs. Cojones-which one most Americans know the real meaning of the words?

quote Cojones-which one most Americans know the real meaning of the words?

I rest my case. Perhaps you should run that sentence by any 5th grade English teacher-------- for correction.

As far as the word "cajones" being vulgar, few would agree with that assertion, anywhere on the planet. It falls under common usage, and is acceptable just about anywhere exept in your tiny, straw grasping world Madcurl.

Keep reaching tho--don't give up. Maybe, (as you put it on several other occassions), you'll find some real "proff" somewhere.

The question you should be asking, is the same one everyone else is asking themselves.

"If Tina Fey had used her position in the entertainment world to criticize President Obama, how many nanoseconds would it have taken you to label her as a racist?"

quote Originally posted by maryjane: You, a person whose diatribes are legendary for a lack of context, proper grammar, syntax and spelling; giving anyone "lessons" in context? That's so incredibly cute, not to mention being way beyond hipocrisy.

Coming from a person with 440 threads within 1-yr (mind up-in the o/t section).


440: Economist who predicted the last 2 $ crisis says (by maryjane, started: 02-28-2010, last post: 2010-03-01 16:20:16 CET)

Idiosyncratic postings of the Tea Party Brigade (TPB).


Hehe. Compared to my 66 postings.

66: What John McCain once said. (by madcurl, started: 04-07-2010, last post: 2010-06-21 03:46:45 CEST)

quote Originally posted by madcurl: Coming from a person with 440 threads within 1-yr (mind up-in the o/t section). 440: Economist who predicted the last 2 $ crisis says (by maryjane, started: 02-28-2010, last post: 2010-03-01 16:20:16 CET) Hehe. Compared to my 66 postings. 66: What John McCain once said. (by madcurl, started: 04-07-2010, last post: 2010-06-21 03:46:45 CEST)

I see three options here
1. You didn't care about politics until Obama became a candidate.
2. You have some sort of hatred for Palin.
3. You only care about Palin and Obama stories and don't delve any deeper into what is going on with other issues.

So MJ has 440 posts in OT? What of it? Did you break them all down by content?
I know that 99% of my posts in the past 4 years have been in OT since my Fiero has been parked for the majority of that time period.

quote Originally posted by madcurl: Coming from a person with 440 threads within 1-yr (mind up-in the o/t section). 440: Economist who predicted the last 2 $ crisis says (by maryjane, started: 02-28-2010, last post: 2010-03-01 16:20:16 CET) Idiosyncratic postings of the Tea Party Brigade (TPB). Hehe. Compared to my 66 postings. 66: What John McCain once said. (by madcurl, started: 04-07-2010, last post: 2010-06-21 03:46:45 CEST)

I'm not at all surprised that the irony of you making a complaint regarding someone else's word use went zooming right over your head.

Nor am I surprised that on top of not being able to spell, punctuate, or use proper sentence syntax, you also cannot count accurately.
I have far far more than 440 threads in OT in 2010, (search doesn't show them all) but then again, I do not complain about how many posts anyone else has either. That, of course, would make me a hipocrite.

You can look up the definition--or go look in the mirror. I'll do the hard part for ya--I doubt you have any problems at all when it comes to admiring yourself in the mirror.
1) A person who engages in the same behaviors he condemns others for. (2) A person who professes certain ideals, but fails to live up to them.

What I DON'T do, is start very many threads in Gen or anywhere else----about myself. I'm just not much on Narcissism.

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