quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: DL10 knows whats up with this deal anyway, he is the expert on my v8 relationships.

I don't really know what you mean...............am I the only V-8 guy that's been nice to you.
Like allot of people here I find you come off as a young, cocky, know it all online, I really didn't get that impression when I met you in person at the 25th. You need to learn that just because you think your way is the best way to do something...........it's not the only way. Respect others right to think their way is best.

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quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: Being a avid poker player... I saw alot of moves in the way archie worded things when he "challenged" me, that would indicate that he was bluffing... But aside from that I "folded" my hand because I simply didnt have the chips in front of me, as he offered a $5000 challenge to me, that I couldnt have accpeted even if I had a top fuel dragster that he wanted to race heads up against archie on a lawnmower. When I typed money/pinks, the thought in my head would mean a dollar value under the value of my car (roughly $700 or so).... So sure it was a mistake on my part and if I ever "issued a challenge" again I would specifically say a dollar amount. I usually stay away from taking out a home equity loan against my parents house to race people on the internet. edit: DL10 knows whats up with this deal anyway, he is the expert on my v8 relationships.

That's a load of :BS:
You're trying to blame Archie for you pussing out on your own challenge.
If the bet was too much, all you had to do was say, "I can't afford that - but I'll race you for the pink slip to my car." You did specifically say "pinks" right?

You made a challenge you had no intention of backing up and then continue to talk smack. You didn't have the chips, or the stones, apparently.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: .... When I typed money/pinks, the thought in my head would mean a dollar value under the value of my car (roughly $700 or so).... ...

Hmmm, still sounds like back peddling - I doubt Archie has anything in his shop with a value of less than several thousand bucks, and if I were going to challenge someone that thrrew an offer out like the one you did; and if I knew I cold beat them, I would have made the offer worth my time... it would be an easy cash cow.

Anywho, you come across as a blowhard know it all. You often refer to a whole lot of swaps you do, but where are they, and who has them. Your craftsmanship is questionable in my mind because I saw recent pics of your car on the other forum. Craftmanship and the small attention to detail tells me a whole lot about someone.

You just might know a thing or two about tuning, I am not sure cause I know nothing about it... but you seem to talk down to those that might have a different swing on how to get something done.

Lastly what is the real purpose of this thread? My thoughts are if you feel unwelcomed, fade into the dark and move on to where you feel welcomed. You are who you are, and if your skin is so thin that you think you need to change based on the input from an internet forum where more than half the people only know you from a screen name and trash talk over the internet, then you are in for an interesting life.

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You guys can think what you want on the archie challenge front.. I made a mistake, and I got called out for it... I made that clear I thought? Pretty sure I "admited" to whatever I was getting flamed at.. its pretty cut and dry honestly and doesnt need any more discussion.

I've never had a problem with you.

Seems like some people on the internet have egos to uphold, and sometimes egos get threatened or people are misunderstood. Sometimes people are just too sensitive.

Just go about your business and ignore the ones that dislike you. The people that you help or offer advice to will be appreciative, and that makes it worth having you around.

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quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: You guys can think what you want on the archie challenge front.. I made a mistake, and I got called out for it... I made that clear I thought? Pretty sure I "admited" to whatever I was getting flamed at.. its pretty cut and dry honestly and doesnt need any more discussion.

You just don't get it, do you?

Look, I have no personal grudge against you and I'm certainly NOT interested in seeing you run off this forum, but it's apparent you're still in acute denial. Until you quit accusing Archie of some kind of trickery and admit that you simply chickened out, there will always be a shadow over your presence here.

As Formula88 suggested, if you didn't have the actual cash to put up you could've counter-offered to have raced for "pinks" (which were mentioned by you in your original so-called "challenge").

You wanted to be the big shot by making the "challenge". Losing your car to Archie might've hurt, but honestly, that's nothing compared to the respect you've lost in this forum over that whole fiasco. It'll take a LONG time to earn it back.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: I am waiting for the manual v8 guys to accept my challenge, I will race for whatever, money/pinks, heads up best of 5 races pinks style anywhere in the midwest.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: Being a avid poker player... I saw alot of moves in the way archie worded things when he "challenged" me, that would indicate that he was bluffing... But aside from that I "folded" my hand because I simply didnt have the chips in front of me, as he offered a $5000 challenge to me, that I couldnt have accpeted even if I had a top fuel dragster that he wanted to race heads up against archie on a lawnmower. When I typed money/pinks, the thought in my head would mean a dollar value under the value of my car (roughly $700 or so).... So sure it was a mistake on my part and if I ever "issued a challenge" again I would specifically say a dollar amount. I usually stay away from taking out a home equity loan against my parents house to race people on the internet.

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Situations like this I'm reminded from a quote of.. of all things.. a cartoon. Futurama episode where Bender gets launched into space and becomes a "god"..

God Entity: Bender, being God isn't easy. If you do too much, people get dependent on you. And if you do nothing, they lose hope. You have to use a light touch, like a safecracker or a pickpocket.

Bender: Or a guy who burns down a bar for the insurance money.

God Entity: Yes, if he makes it look like an electrical thing.
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.

I think I'm in your same boat in real life, darkhorizon. I'm a cocky smartass kind of guy who typically yaps off at the mouth without a second thought. Luckily for me though, my random thoughts tend to be rather intelligent and funny. Plus I'm a huge guy, so not many say anything. On the 'net I try to keep a lower chilled profile and just back out of internet retard arguments. Not worth getting all pissy about, y'know?

I creep in the Tech section all day long. I note your posts and I don't think you've generally lead anyone wrong or anything. So no problems here, bro. Do what you do.

quote Originally posted by doublec4: Seems like some people on the internet have egos to uphold, and sometimes egos get threatened or people are misunderstood. Sometimes people are just too sensitive.

There is also the guy or two who may have a jerk for a boss at work, so they take it out on whoever they can. Seemingly exploding without warning.

Its been years now... I really didnt think you guys would still be on me about this archie deal....

What is it you want me to do? I really feel that I explained how wrong I was or whatever, so harassing me about it more is not getting anything done right?

quote You wanted to be the big shot by making the "challenge".

No, I really just wanted to race some V8 guys for fun, ego is not a something I strive for. If you want proof of that just call my parents, family, friends, ect.

quote f you didn't have the actual cash to put up you could've counter-offered to have raced for "pinks"

I remember at least wanting to do this, but if I remember he wouldnt go for it, for obvious reasons, he didnt have a car cheap enough to race me with.... which was basically the whole point I tried to make in the first place. he also forced me to agree to the race without even seeing the car I was going to race... another shady bit of what was going on... I had pictures of every bolt, screw, and bracket of my car on the internet, and I didnt even know the color of his racecar.

quote admit that you simply chickened out,

I specifically remember counter offering a no money race in the situation where I didnt even get to see archies setup before hand, but again it may have just been what I was thinking and I didnt say it due to all of the flaming going on. I am pretty sure I did admit to "chickening out", so again, why go on and on about this?

Hi lots of peoples a critisizing you .
But for my part i would like to have a guy with your knowlwedge and good infos you give for the 3.8 So my SBC laying around in my garage for over a year would have been installed in my car .
I know you don't favor the SBC but this is what i have .
Looking for info of parts missing on TPI intake and a lot of tiny little other things stopping me from doing it
My engine is new (Rebuilded) have tha almost complete Archie deluxe kit ( Just the rad and few hoses missing ) and a 5 Speed Getrag rebuilded too .
I've tried with so many guys here but they are all too technical for me .
Thanks
Robert

I sent you this Pm awhile ago

And you didn't even answered me with such an answer like ( sorry i don't know much about SBC or wish i could help ) no answer at all .
And i'm pretty sure you could have been helpfull

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Is this a thread about another thread in another section?

quote Originally posted by maryjane: Is this a thread about another thread in another section?

Not particularly, but it was started via this thread.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/098666.html

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: I specifically remember counter offering a no money race in the situation where I didnt even get to see archies setup before hand, but again it may have just been what I was thinking and I didnt say it due to all of the flaming going on. I am pretty sure I did admit to "chickening out", so again, why go on and on about this?

People go on and on about it because you keep trying to blame Archie for your chickening out.
It was plainly obvious you didn't think anyone would take you up on your challenge when you made it, so you didn't have to worry about backing it up.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: Its been years now...

Here's the original challenge. Your post was dated 01-07-2008 11:21 AM. How long are the "years" where you live? It's been right at 1 year and 2 months by my calendar.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...2/HTML/086397-6.html

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: I am waiting for the manual v8 guys to accept my challenge, I will race for whatever, money/pinks, heads up best of 5 races pinks style anywhere in the midwest.

Archie's reply:

quote Originally posted by Archie: I never saw that challenge before, but you're on. We will be racing for $5000.00 cash, just like on Pinks. (bring cash or Money Order) We will be racing at Great Lakes Dragaway. We can run in late April or early May whatever day you can make it into town. Bring proof that the car you are racing belongs to you. Put up or shut up. Archie

and your bail out....

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: I do stuff other than watch threads on here...I do go to school full time, and pay for it myself without loans. I dont think I am about to agree to a race without knowing anything about the car I am racing. I have information on every single part of my car available on the net here, and I dont even have an idea of what he wants to bring. On the otherhand, knowing I will take crap for this, but I am not going to call archies bluff here, as I dont have 5000 to risk, nor do I want to take my car into the drag racing direction at the moment. i like driving it around town, and the fact I have already gotten back what I invested in it.

So you throw down the gauntlet to a drag race, then when someone calls your bluff you say you're not into drag racing and accuse Archie of bluffing.
You should go into politics. You have a great way of remembering things the way you want to rather than how they actually happened.

So, now I am reminded of how horrible of a person I am, now involving another situation on another forum...

I am now officially warned by a group of locals to "watch my back" because they are out looking for me. I apparently upset some person via some posts I did on the a local car forum.. . These people are people that I have tried to be friends with, or at least just "not hated by" for a few years now.. and it seems like anything I say or do, makes things worse... I spend HOURS of my time helping them with something, or giving them information, at one time or another.. had mutual conversations without any mention of how completely horrible and useless person I am, or how everything I say hurts people emotionally.

I am really beginning to question If I can ever be saved from this problem of mine... I can honestly say that I have pretty much no friends left at this point.. I graduate from school here shortly.. I dont have a job lined up yet and I dont see how I could ever even hold a job if I could get one, if I can not even have a single friend in a entire city. I wont even begin complaining about the fact that I am 22, and havent even attempted to have a girlfriend, mostly because I know my chances for that happening are exponentially lower than being a mutual friend with another person, guy or girl.

So not only I feel like I am not wanted around this forum, but I dont even think the world wants me any more.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: So not only I feel like I am not wanted around this forum, but I dont even think the world wants me any more.

Eh, don't sweat the small stuff.
It's only life.

You just need to stop worrying about other people and just do you.
If that means closing your mouth a little when you feel like opening it, then do it.
Start feeling better about yourself & your sucesses, just for you, not for showing off to others.

Go do some volinteer work.
That always makes you feel better about yourself.

Just try to be the best person you can.
Make the effort.

To me being the best person I can be, means I am the person that gets **** on by people that can take advantage of me, or I have zero relationships at all.

I blame whoever taught me that being nice to other people is the best way to go about life... because the more I help other people, the more I get **** on... The more I knowlege I gain, the more I look like a "knowitall" and then in turn, the more I get **** on. Now hey, I found a few people that I can trust, ok, let me build a turbo setup for them, oh way, YOU JUST GOT **** ON BUHHAHAHA.

I feel like I am just going to go through life giving out free everything till someone actually pays me back, on mutual terms.

I feel like I am playing the part of the ******* that you know that has a hot wife, and a ton of friends, and a cake job... but I dont get any of those things, and everyone just thinks I am an ******* . its like I can not possibly have a positive relationship with someone, because they just find some reason to hate me.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: So not only I feel like I am not wanted around this forum, but I dont even think the world wants me any more.

So instead of sitting around and crying about your life on an internet forum, why don't you identify the issues that cause you problems and try to correct those?

Your life is what you make it, not what others make for you.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: I really think it is just time for "me" time.....

It sounds like you are the kind of person that needs to have alot of people around you & in your life all the time.

Dump that.
Go solo for awhile.
Hermitize.

Clear your head for awhile, maybe reinvent yourself, then slowly get back in the game, one person at a time, slowly, and with light intent.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: I really think it is just time for "me" time..... I gave the world too much of my time expecting it back.... I either need to understand that I cant ever expect things back, or I need to stop giving to the world. I always thought that I tried to look for the good in all things too... I at one time thought that nearly every time I got screwed really bad, I came out on top with some other relationship i was involved in.... But anymore I find that to be a bit cloudier than before, and I just dont believe it as much as I did before.

Your first mistake was expecting something back, if your gonna do something for someone do it because it feels right, not because you think it's gonna get you something in return. Start doing that, doing things for yourself, and you might actually wake up one morning and realize that life may suck most of the time but every now and then it's really great (the alternative REALLY suX).

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Dealing with failure is easy: work hard to improve. Success is also easy to handle: you've solved the wrong problem, work hard to improve.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: It sounds like you are the kind of person that needs to have alot of people around you & in your life all the time. Dump that. Go solo for awhile. Hermitize. Clear your head for awhile, maybe reinvent yourself, then slowly get back in the game, one person at a time, slowly, and with light intent.

Is that you Dr. Fleischman??

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quote Originally posted by GT86: So instead of sitting around and crying about your life on an internet forum, why don't you identify the issues that cause you problems and try to correct those? Your life is what you make it, not what others make for you.

Maybe I am the type of person that figures problems out better when he talks to another person about them? It works for fiero crap, so I figure it would work for "important" stuff about me too. I am sorry that you had to click my post, read it, then sh!t on me about it.

quote Originally posted by GT86: So instead of sitting around and crying about your life on an internet forum, why don't you identify the issues that cause you problems and try to correct those? Your life is what you make it, not what others make for you.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: Maybe I am the type of person that figures problems out better when he talks to another person about them? It works for fiero crap, so I figure it would work for "important" stuff about me too. I am sorry that you had to click my post, read it, then sh!t on me about it.

Actually, he is giving you very good advice. The Drama Queen pic ? Ehh, sometimes we all need a biatch slap.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: It sounds like you are the kind of person that needs to have alot of people around you & in your life all the time. Dump that. Go solo for awhile. Hermitize. Clear your head for awhile, maybe reinvent yourself, then slowly get back in the game, one person at a time, slowly, and with light intent.

Some more excellent advice.
'Ya know, I know a lot about cars. All kinds including Fieros. I never get in Tech and try to help. There is more than enough help there which is actually better than me. (I do help in my CJ7 forum. Better help but not at the same volume.)
I have not read this thread in depth (nor know you very well) but it does seem as if you have an acceptance need. Sort of like you always need to prove yourself.
I agree with Boondawg. You have to like yourself first before anyone else will. I have seen your posts, I don't dislike you.

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Dark,

I've read through several of your posts and you have posted responses in some of mine. I don't post very much, but having read through this, I thought I would tell a little about me or just a snippet.


I moved 2000 miles away from home when I was 18, with the full knowledge that ALL people are friendly , kind and honest. I became "acquantinces" (sp) with a couple that lived in my complex that was having a tough time. I had just upgraded my $200 car and got a $1000 car, so I was looking to sell the first one. They had no money to buy it straight out, but they both worked. We wrote out a contract. First week goes by , no payment. Second week goes by no payment. I've seen them around the complex all this time still being friendly and full of excuses. End of the third week I don't see them, they have moved out. By blind luck two weeks later I spot my car in another complex parking lot. I call the police and tell my story and they said I could repo my car, so I do. Later that night the husband and several of his more intimidating buddies show up at my door wanting his car back. He also left a bunch of his construction tools in the car. I told him I will keep the car and will return his tools just to get these people out of my life. I return his tools and he slashes all four tires on my car in appreciation.

I know its not alot of money but it was mine. I've had many crappy things happen in life, including for a time being friendless, which is very tough.

Life lessons learned

1. Don't trust anyone
2. If you are going to do favors for friends start small to gauge their true friendship
3. Don't EVER expect anything in return
4. Acquantinces will come and go, a true friend lasts forever ( of which I have two )

I have more but, just remember you are still young and have a long life ahead of you. Chalk it all up to experience and grow from it.

quote Originally posted by wanobi: Acquaintances will come and go, a true friend lasts forever

Thats the key word that will help you here.....acquaintances. I myself have known some people for over 18 years and they are my acquaintances....not friends. You can do things with those people but if they dissappear from your life, who cares. Things they say don't affect you as much. The only friend I have is my wife...well, more than a friend but you get the idea. It is really important to be able to distinguish the two words and maybe choose one or the other for all of the people that you associate with.

quote Originally posted by IMSA GT: The only friend I have is my wife....

Well said!
She gets the closest to 100% of my trust.

DH, stop with the pity party already.
You act like a jerk because you're insecure that people won't like you and think you're stupid.
Because you act like a jerk, people don't like you. That makes you more insecure, so you act like more of a jerk.
If you make enemies everywhere you go, here's a clue - maybe it's not them, it's you. The only constant in all of your relationships - IS YOU.

Personally, I don't want you around here. Even if you have some knowledge to share, your arrogance makes no one want to deal with you. You constantly take the attitude that your way is the ONLY way and if someone does something different, it's because they're dumber than you. If you need this explained, re-read the jerk comment above.

The Archie challenge is a perfect example. You made the challenge to look like the big man and make people like you. When you punked out, you kept trying to say it was for this reason or that reason, but you never manned up and actually said, I'm sorry, I had no intention of ever backing up my challenge, etc. Sure, you've talked a lot about admitting it - but you never did actually admit it. You've danced around and around it because admitting it would make you lose respect. News flash - it's already lost. At the time you actually stood to gain some respect by owning up to your BS.

Pull your head out of your butt and get yourself squared away. Get ok with liking yourself and then worry about the rest of the world.

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quote Originally posted by Formula88: Personally, I don't want you around here. Even if you have some knowledge to share, your arrogance makes no one want to deal with you. You constantly take the attitude that your way is the ONLY way and if someone does something different, it's because they're dumber than you.

If NOT being around here was based on THAT, and the word "knowledge" was replaced with "opinion", this place would be a GHOST TOWN!!!!

quote Originally posted by Formula88: get yourself squared away. Get ok with liking yourself and then worry about the rest of the world.

I agree.

quote Originally posted by Boondawg: If NOT being around here was based on THAT, and the word "knowledge" was replaced with "opinion", this place would be a GHOST TOWN!!!!

I agree. My point is more that just because you may be knowledgeable that doesn't mean people will like you and line up to hear your offerings of wisdom.
There have been several people here who were knowledgeable of certain swaps and topics, but were banned because they're also jerks. Knowledgeable or not, you're still expected to act like a reasonable human being.

And before you ask, "reasonable" is defined by the community standards. Our community. That's the rating system at work.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: It works for fiero crap.

Hey Hey now. Lets not bring my Fiero into this.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: Maybe I am the type of person that figures problems out better when he talks to another person about them? It works for fiero crap, so I figure it would work for "important" stuff about me too. I am sorry that you had to click my post, read it, then sh!t on me about it.

I'm not crapping on you, just trying to get your attention. You're throwing yourself a right good pity parade, and generally the only way to get through to someone who is doing that is to be rude. Hence, the drama queen pic.

But the rest of post was sincere. Quit feeling sorry for yourself, quit complaining, and take action towards self improvement.

quote Originally posted by GT86: Quit feeling sorry for yourself, quit complaining, and take action towards self improvement.

As blunt & painfull as that may be to hear, it is true.
Only you can change you, just as only you are the only one who can allow others to take advantage of you.

It all starts & stops with you.
Sorry.

This is all stuff I needed to hear.. I have just had other opinions coming from other places, that I should keep doing what I do, and just do it better/different. I dont think that is going to work, because it just becomes stupidly more complex and harder to deal with at that point.

Although formula is a douche, his advice is always spot on when it comes to me... But I still hate that you can go back to one situation where I did not handle myself on the internet properly. A poor choice of wording left me open to an attack, and I was unable to defend against without "losing respect". In reality, I didnt make that challenge to gain respect, I did it just so I could race xxx car and see how I do... My intentions of posting are always clear in my head, but apparently they are not interpreted by others the way I see them.

So all I am saying is, you have made the archie point clear, but I wont agree with it because I FEEL true intentions were lost in "internet translation", as I posted without being VERY SPECIFIC, which was just a mistake... I dont know why you do not realize this by now.

quote way and if someone does something different, it's because they're dumber than you.

This is great, but in my mind I feel sorry for said person, because they would be doing something wrong, that will just cause them problems later on,.or they could do something different to save them a ton of money, or whatever.... In my mind I would feel bad for not telling them the right way to do it, but instead, I suggest something, then I am a jerk, and not only does that person hate me and not listen, but the rest of the world sees that and forms the same opinion.

So that brings me back to the "dont trust people, and dont give a **** about other people" solution posted by many on this page.... Yes, that is a very honest, and obvious solution but it would require a drastic change of my mentality, that will be hard to overcome. I feel that it is impossible for me to actually give advice or whatever without the "you are a dumbass" tone... even more so on the internet.

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: But I still hate that you can go back to one situation where I did not handle myself on the internet properly. A poor choice of wording left me open to an attack, and I was unable to defend against without "losing respect". In reality, I didnt make that challenge to gain respect, I did it just so I could race xxx car and see how I do... My intentions of posting are always clear in my head, but apparently they are not interpreted by others the way I see them. So all I am saying is, you have made the archie point clear, but I wont agree with it because I FEEL true intentions were lost in "internet translation", as I posted without being VERY SPECIFIC, which was just a mistake... I dont know why you do not realize this by now.

Although your profile mentions you're from Michigan, it's obvious you're still living in a state of Denial.

Sometimes I just can't help myself.

Why are you still here?

j/k it's the alcohol (really) any other posts by me tonight will probably have the same excuse, and I honestly have nothing against you. (or anyone for that matter), btw is anyone noticing I can still still type/spell better (while drunk) then you know who?

quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: This is great, but in my mind I feel sorry for said person, because they would be doing something wrong, that will just cause them problems later on,.or they could do something different to save them a ton of money, or whatever.... In my mind I would feel bad for not telling them the right way to do it, but instead, I suggest something, then I am a jerk, and not only does that person hate me and not listen, but the rest of the world sees that and forms the same opinion.

The point you can't seem to grasp is that in your mind your way is the "right" way and anything else is wrong. Sure, there's only one right way to hook up positive and negative battery cables, but when dealing with engine swaps there are a myriad of different ways things can be done. Everything is a trade off. To some people the cheapest swap possible is most important. To others, it's having ________ engine because they like it. Still others are only concerned with 1/4 mile times. But all you see is that YOU would do it YOUR way, and they need to do it YOUR way because anything else is wrong.

You're not a jerk for making suggestions. You're a jerk for telling people their preferences are wrong. If you liked red, you'd tell someone with a blue Fiero that their paint color was wrong and they shouldn't have spent $10,000 having Chip Foose paint it when you did your car with 3 cans of Rustoleum for $7.95.

If you can't grasp that, you're always going to be labeled and treated like a jerk.

As for the Archie challenge, even your reply still dances around without excepting responsibility for your actions. Your ego wrote a check your car couldn't cash, and you are still trying to blame others and call it some kind of misunderstanding.

You've got a LOT of growing up to do.

You know I don't you from Adam and we have never talked on here. What I can't understand is WOW...this post is still going with you still posting???? Hey man up bud. Either crap or get off the pot. Tell everyone your sorry and take your ball and go home or fess up that this was nothing more than attempt to get sympathy or people to cater to your sense of being in the center stage. Dude life ain't fair and you give of yourself because you want to not because of what you will get in return. If thats the reason you give then my friend you are doing it all wrong. This is what everyone is trying to say you sound like:

Boohoohoo Everbody hates me...
Boohoohoo Nobody likes me...
Boohoohoo Everybody gangs up on me...

Whats the common thread here????? You are. Change you attitude offer advice not state what you do is the best way and let the owner of the process make a determination and quite taking over threads to prove how smart you are.
And Finnally.if you make a challenge like the one you did and someone like Archie calls you out or calls your bluff (I read the post in the link I wasn't even on at that time) Man up to the challenge or just say I was full of crap and press on. People will respect you more.

Dude you won't get sugar coating from me. It's not in my nature to lie to you to make you feel good. After 3 pages of posts either tell people you are staying and if they don't like tough or...Bye see you don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya and let this drama parade of yours stop.

Shelby

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quote Originally posted by darkhorizon: So all I am saying is, you have made the archie point clear, but I wont agree with it because I FEEL true intentions were lost in "internet translation", as I posted without being VERY SPECIFIC, which was just a mistake... I dont know why you do not realize this by now.

Here's some steps to get you started on your path of self-improvement: admit you screwed up, quit trying to spin it, quit trying to blame others, accept the fact you made a mistake, learn from it, and move on.

We all make mistakes, but people who continually try to talk their way out of it generally have little to no integrity. Nothing is ever their fault, it's always someone else. Makes it easy to justify a lot of bad decisions on your part. Man up. You'll never get respect from others if you don't respect yourself.

[This message has been edited by GT86 (edited 04-19-2009).]