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Looks Like California is Targeting Cruise Nights! by Oreif
Started on: 04-06-2008 08:26 AM
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Last post by: blackrams on 04-13-2008 07:50 AM
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Report this Post04-12-2008 01:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Vonov:

But tell me...how do you propose to find out who's running stolen equipment, and who's out there late at night, when most of the crimes are committed, if we stop making traffic stops? I'm always open for new ideas. If I can find a way to reduce crime AND stop making the citizens angry at cops because of traffic stops, I'll likely be the next Chief of Police in my city! (One is as likely as the other, lol.)


Well Vonov, there should be more officers like you on the force everwhere! Asking question and gaining the public trust is the key IMO. A good start is perhaps;

1. Once a month public gatherings at various location where young kids who want to show off their cars and where vendures can cater to them.
a). Taco Bell and late nigh venders usually are magnets for the younger crowds. IMO I would think many would be pleased to here that Law enforecement are there and not to give out tickets. It's a plus/plus for all and no doubt will expose the bad apples too.

2. Area drag strips;
A). This might help aid those whom want to display the egos, but in a legal way.

3. A kinder, gentler police officer might help too.
a). Giving a motorist a break every-now-and-then can go along way (Heck, I know few officers have let me go and I didn't forget it either).

As for stopping crime and stolen engine and parts;

1. Use your current Highway Patrol agency to issue inspection on all motorist who are ticketed.
A). Have them show-up with proper verifications or ID of various parts. CHP (California Highway Patrol) in CA performs this already. This might prevent "car profiling" thus no one party gets their panties in a jam.

b). Many import tuners hate swapping out their illegal mods; whereas thieves don't care and will seek another town to ride "dirty."

2. Increase inspections at known chop shops in town. Increase the fines and jail times.

3. Create a "mole" in infiltrate the system.

4. Use a "bait-car" to catch thieves. Park it in known areas where car crimes/theft has taken place.

5. Local visit to area high schools. Slide show about whats illegal and what isn't.


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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:
The thing is that you should fight for every right not just for yourself or people like you but for everyone and especially people different than you.


OK

Ron

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Originally posted by blackrams:

Well, I've been called worse. I might agree with you if I had ever seen any type of activity as you're describing by police, but that hasn't happened and isn't likely to IMO, as I said before, "nothing good happens after midnight on the streets", yeah, I know your scenerio could happen anytime but, as this story was about 100 + cars and their driver's hanging out in a private parking lot, I don't see that happening.



I wasn't calling you foolish - just that viewpoint. No insult intended.

You're saying you've never seen the type of behavior we alluded to and it isn't likely to happen. See, the thing is people are all different. The law is written in such a way that "justice" doesn't depend on you getting the "good" cop. There is enough room for abuse of the system. We don't need to open the door and just trust the Police to do the right thing. They may even intend to do the right thing and think you're guilty - and now the burden is on you to prove otherwise.

Our Constitutional rights are there to protect us from our government - to limit it's power for a reason. Good and bad people will come and go, but if the rights are respected then there is a certain burden of proof required before you can detain, search, or arrest someone.

If the "I've got nothing to hide" people give up their rights because, as they say they have nothing to hide, then if there comes a time when they feel they're being unduly harassed or accused it will be too late. It's like insurance. You can't just go buy insurance for when you have a wreck. You have to maintain your insurance constantly and hope you never need it. Your rights are the same way.
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Originally posted by Formula88:
I wasn't calling you foolish - just that viewpoint. No insult intended.


No problem. None taken.

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