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Odd question - Dating Black/White by Uaana
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Originally posted by $Rich$:

you see alot of thoes guys here with white women, but never the other way arround they seem to go after the "larger plus sized" lower class white women too


That is for citizenship purposes. I've seen quite a bit of Africans get married to white trash chicks.

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Originally posted by Phranc:


They would most likely be from Sahara and sub-Sahara africa states. Not jungles but desserts.



Actually, no. Sudan (not sure about Ethiopia) is about half desert and half jungle. The North part is desert and "Arabian" while the south is jungle and "black". They've had an ongoing civil war and genocide there for around the past 50 years. I actually think that IS discrimination, when a genocide happens in Europe we're up in arms in 5 years or less, one happens pretty much anywhere else and we just let it go on.

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I've spent the last couple of minutes reading your posts in other areas of the forum. you appear to have an 88gt with a 5 speed, so i will assume for now that your presence here is legitimate.


What...I was investigated? Apparently you didn't read long enough; I have a coupe, not gt.

But thank you SO much for validating my membership on this board.

 
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no, i dont expect you to do nothing, but (IMO) you could have addressed the racism issue without trying to inflame passion further.


Well, since I am a member of the affected group it's kind of hard to just be...clinical.

 
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those who choose to think of themselves as a frequency of reflected light are shortchanging themselves.


Disagree with that. I have a history that, despite obviously important contributions from the 1400's to today, are largely ignored in "mainstream" history...or relegated to the shortest month of the year. But whatever.

 
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I appreciate your use of good grammar and spelling. if there's anything that annoys me, it's people who mangle their own language.


...uh thanks....
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Originally posted by Tinton:

Please, tell me how we've disrespected you? When I say "we" I don't mean "white people", I mean the other people who posted in this thread. Don't look at things as just being black and white, that IS racism. Personally, I'm drunk as **** right now, and I'm tired of the **** I've had to take for what my ancestors did. Hell, my ancestors didn't have ANYTHING to do with slavery, every single one of them was either a Native American or was living in Europe up until the late 1800's. You lump all white people together as the "slave owners", well, a LOT of us didn't have a single ****ing thing to do with that. And you talk stereotypes? Oh yeah, its stereotypical for a white man living in the south to be a former "slave owner" who is keeping everyone else down and hates everyone.


Apparently you didn't read my entire post. I said White are still benefiting from the effects of slavery, NOT all White people's ancestors were slave owners. I've got some White and Native in my blood too...due to a side effect of slavery. That being said, there were also Blacks that were born from White women and Black men. That happened back in the day too. Your alcohol consumption is affecting your reasoning.


 
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About your responses to my post, what you came up with is your intepretation, in no way was my post meant to be inflammatory or racist.


And the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

 
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Act "white"? It really isn't white as it is being well-mannered and kind. That has nothing to do with the color or your skin. Period. I have a right to choose what I'm attracted to, my entire post can pretty much be summed up like this: "I don't care about skin color, I just want a girl who has things in common with me". Sorry if I'm not attracted to self-assertive angry women, that just ISN'T my thing.

No it can't because if you said it I wouldn't have responded. You mentioned race specifically. Drunk or not, you are still responsible for what you say. Don't backpedal.

 
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When did I say that "black folk" can only be 2 things? And when did I say that white people can be "all things"? I just narrowed it down. Preppy and "ghetto" can also be called "rich" and "poor", if you like. I've had to live in both during my lifetime. And please, don't give me **** for calling poser white boys "wiggers", I've been called "****ing cracker" enough in my life. Wiggers is a legitimate term for describing white boys who purposefully (and painfully) try to act "ghetto".


Ah yes, the "two wrongs make it right" argument. "Wiggers is a legitimate term for describing white boys who purposefully (and painfully) try to act "ghetto".

I say again: what is "ghetto"? Is that another codeword for ****** ? Same like "urban"? I know what the term Wigger is...I'm just a liiiiiiittle bit older than you.

 
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Racist drivel? Come live where I live, and see what I'm talking about. I'm merely commenting on what I see. Where I went to high school it was more than 50% minority, there were 10 African American guys in my grade who actually acted "preppy", the rest acted like they were from the "streets" even though most of them came from the same suburban area I lived in.


That's opening a new can of worms...that being said, I'm not saying you're wrong on that...

Who "jacked" rock and roll? Is Eminem "jacking" rap? I don't know, I only been here for two decades.

So you're too young for Vanilla Ice. As for Rock? Pat Boone, White radio stations, other artist that intentionally tried to cover songs originally sang by Black artist. And the biggest Jacker of all time...Elvis.

 
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Ignorant racist post? Nothing I said was blatently racist, all of what you took as "racism" is what you interpretated.


Thank goodness my IQ is higher than 90. No it wasn't blatant, but an attempt to be subtle. A poor one at that. See, most of my childhood--and young adult--I've been the "only Black person"/token in a group that was predominately White. So I learned some--not all-- drop their guard and say something stupid like "you're not like the others", and "you're different", blah blah blah.

 
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Also. You think I should keep my mouth shut like a "good little cracker"?



No, but come at me with some intellect, rather than being in an alcoholic stupor. Then maybe you can reread your post with more clarity.

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funny, i post in a somewhat controvercial thread and my ratings start going haywire
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That is for citizenship purposes. I've seen quite a bit of Africans get married to white trash chicks.


That is appalling...heaven forbid I go to South Dakota.
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whats that sposed to mean? i wasnt implying about you, thats just what we see alot of here

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What...I was investigated? Apparently you didn't read long enough; I have a coupe, not gt.

i stand corrected.
"88' coupe 4-cyl with 5 speed transmission."
 
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But thank you SO much for validating my membership on this board.

that remains to be seen. besides my opinion doesn't count for much here.

it really wasnt important to me what flavor car you had, the purpose was to see whether you had a posting history. once i found what appears to be a person who is actually interested in fieros, i lost interest. carry on.

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No, but come at me with some intellect, rather than being in an alcoholic stupor. Then maybe you can reread your post with more clarity.


Come at you with some intellect? Sorry, but unlike the others here, I don't have a problem with dropping a few levels to be even with someone in an argument. You came out at me first with the hatred and anger and all I did was send some back. If you want to read an intelligent response to your bigoted ramblings, go look to someone else like Rich or lurker, you won't get one from me here. I won't waste my time trying to reason with you after the posts you've made.

Also, since this seems like a big deal for you, I'll give you my definition of ghetto. A person who acts stupid, immature, and aggressive. I can understand someone who actually lived in the ghetto acting like that (hard world and all that), but I don't understand when people who have no reason to act like that, act like that. People have to respect themselves and not emulate stupidity just because its cool. And no matter what skin color, a person can be ghetto (or urban, or w/e).

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Hey Uaana...if you think enough of the girl to date her, just go ahead and lay your cards on the table. Tell her you find her beautiful and interesting, and you'd like to find out if the two of you could build your friendship into something more. There are fewer sadder regrets than to say the words, "what might have been?" The guy who gets turned down nine times out of ten, is still getting more dates than the guy who never asks.
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Tell her you find her beautiful and interesting, and you'd like to find out if the two of you could build your friendship into something more.

oooh, good line. i'll file that away in case i ever have a use for lines again.
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...See, most of my childhood--and young adult--I've been the "only Black person"/token in a group that was predominately White...


Jeez... From the tone of some of your posts, I'm surprised that you would stoop to such a level. tsk...
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Originally posted by $Rich$:
other ****ries

uhhhh..... spell check on aisle 3!
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GDS-1, it is an ill wind indeed that blows no one any good (doesn't benefit anyone). Slavery was a horrendous tragedy, paid for in blood and sorrow by both black and white (remember the Civil War) Americans, a price still being paid to this day. If this country has a curse, it began the day the first slave was sold on American shores.

The one good thing that can be said of slavery is that the descendants of those who were brought here as slaves were at least spared being born on a continent which seems to be the cradle of sorrows, rife with disease, genocide, war, famine and plague, most of it brought about by human greed and lust for power. Almost every descendant of slavery has a better life than 99% of those born in Africa today. The United States has from the beginning been made stronger by the contributions of all its citizens, among those being persons such as Crispus Attucks, George Washington Carver, and Benjamin O Davis.

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oooh, good line. i'll file that away in case i ever have a use for lines again.


I've been watching you, Mr. Smooth...

Now back to our regularly scheduled diatribe...
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uhhhh..... spell check on aisle 3!


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If this country has a curse, it began the day the first slave was sold on American shores.
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Almost every descendant of slavery has a better life than 99% of those born in Africa today.

1619. indentured servants actually, though i doubt they volunteered.
some people think that many of the ills currently confronting africa are due in part to either the disruption of the slave trade, or colonization by europeans. but that's best left to another thread, for those who care to argue the point.

"mr smooth". yeah, right, that's me.

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1619. indentured servants actually, though i doubt they volunteered.



I've been doing some geneology on my family and have run into more than just a few indents in parts of my family.
Back in the day, in my English/Scottish/Irish ancestry, it was normal for the first born(male of course) to inheret the property/family business, second born entering military/ religion, from there on out alot of kids leaving town, usualy indenturing themselves to pay for passage to North America. Some of the people who 'Floated the Note' were honest and some were less than honest as far as the length of indenture. But eventualy, by law, the indent became free. Back then owners were looking for cheeper labor, guess where they turned?
Kinda like outsourcing today..........?
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funny, i post in a somewhat controvercial thread and my ratings start going haywire


As did mine.
Oh, well.
Voicing personal observations or expirience's has often been mistaken for a factual insult.

Not much can be done about the personal perceptions of others.
People will take you the way they want to take you.
Not so much on what you say, but what they heard.
To bad you can't feel a good heart.

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After reading through this thread I've learned a few things:
1) Sudan has jungle, swamps, river basins and flood plains. And here I thought it was all dessert like you see on TV.

2) I'm reaping rewears from a time when a black slave was worth more then an Irish man. I'd love to know what exactly it is I'm getting. As far as I know there is no white people club that gets special funds and services that black people can't. In fact it goes the other way 'round.

3) I pay my highest earning employee way to much because in America black people are only allowed to earn less then whitey.

This crying about slavery is not going to get a black man ahead in this world niether is talking or acting like a ghetto star. If black people spent more time educating themselves instead of calling everyting racism maybe just maybe the future would look much much better. This whole culture of "whitey owes me" and "its all whites fault" is pathtic. The only person the owes you is you. The only person you can blame is you. And those statements apply to all races.

If you want to talk about slavery do so in an broader view then just all blacks are slave desendants and all whites are slave owner decendents. Who sold the slaves to the euros? African and arab slave traders. Thats right black and arabs were slave owners too. Not evey black person in America is a slave decendant. Many blacks came here after slavery just like many whites. In the south before the civil war not all blacks were slaves. In the north before the war there were many many blacks that were not slaves. There were also some black slave owners in America. The civil war wasn't faught purely for the reason of slavery but alot of white men died trying to free slaves. Many more white soilders died then there were slaves.

(all pronouns is this post are not directed at any one person but used in a sweeping general way)
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phranc:
This crying about slavery is not going to get a black man ahead in this world niether is talking or acting like a ghetto star. If black people spent more time educating themselves instead of calling everyting racism maybe just maybe the future would look much much better. This whole culture of "whitey owes me" and "its all whites fault" is pathtic. The only person the owes you is you. The only person you can blame is you. And those statements apply to all races.

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i would say "word" or amen brother, hell yea, or whatever, but that might be translated as white ghetto trash slang,
so ill keep it uni-race and say
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1) Sudan has jungle, swamps, river basins and flood plains. And here I thought it was all dessert like you see on TV.


What? It's full of cake and ice cream and pies...? What? no spell check? It's DESERT, NOT DESSERT!

 
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2) I'm reaping rewears from a time when a black slave was worth more then an Irish man. I'd love to know what exactly it is I'm getting. As far as I know there is no white people club that gets special funds and services that black people can't. In fact it goes the other way 'round.


Oh God...apparently you didn't bother to read all of my posts, and that comment proves it.

 
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3) I pay my highest earning employee way to much because in America black people are only allowed to earn less then whitey.


And your smart mouth comments are really helping the conversation, right?

 
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This crying about slavery is not going to get a black man ahead in this world niether is talking or acting like a ghetto star. If black people spent more time educating themselves instead of calling everyting racism maybe just maybe the future would look much much better.

Future according to who? And just because you don't wanna talk about it doesn't mean it's going to just vanish. You don't even have the courage to even look at statistical evidence from the independant studies institutions that back up my claim. And you're making a far more generalized statement saying we are not educated...?

 
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This whole culture of "whitey owes me" and "its all whites fault" is pathtic. The only person the owes you is you. The only person you can blame is you. And those statements apply to all races.


Hmm...then I guess BY YOUR LOGIC, we wanted to be slaves in this country and we should ignore that WRITTEN PROMISE of 40 acres and a mule.

Get real. Then the Japanese Americans shouldn't have gotten their reparations either.

 
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f you want to talk about slavery do so in an broader view then just all blacks are slave desendants and all whites are slave owner decendents. Who sold the slaves to the euros? African and arab slave traders. Thats right black and arabs were slave owners too. Not evey black person in America is a slave decendant. Many blacks came here after slavery just like many whites. In the south before the civil war not all blacks were slaves.


Now I know you're hallucinating. Give me some sources of your so-called facts. Until then you're talking about something you have little info on.

 
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In the north before the war there were many many blacks that were not slaves.

But they weren't treated the same either...so that arguement doesn't wash.

 
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There were also some black slave owners in America. The civil war wasn't faught purely for the reason of slavery but alot of white men died trying to free slaves. Many more white soilders died then there were slaves.


MYTH #1: The civil war was about slavery. FACT: Lincoln wanted to preserve the Union; had nothing to do with slaves. Frederick Douglass called him out on that. If the situation was reversed, and the South wanted to leave the US would still be at war. Period

The next myth you did not specifically state but this is still relevent to the lies that was taught in school.

MYTH #2: The Emancipation Proclamation freed the slaves. The hell it did. That was legally useless as the Southern states already split from the Union. Douglass called Lincoln on that too. The 13th Amendment freed the slaves...PHYSICALLY. That only opened up the Apartheid prototype---Jim Crow. Blacks didn't get TRUE freedom--like everyone else--until the Civil Rights Act of 1964. That was only 42 years ago. Some of you lived through it so that's not that long ago in the timespan of this country. But I guess all past indignities should just POOF! go away and forgotten. Don't you know how pathetic that is?


 
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(all pronouns is this post are not directed at any one person but used in a sweeping general way)


Again, who are you fooling?

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phranc:
This crying about slavery is not going to get a black man ahead in this world niether is talking or acting like a ghetto star. If black people spent more time educating themselves instead of calling everyting racism maybe just maybe the future would look much much better. This whole culture of "whitey owes me" and "its all whites fault" is pathtic. The only person the owes you is you. The only person you can blame is you. And those statements apply to all races.

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i would say "word" or amen brother, hell yea, or whatever, but that might be translated as white ghetto trash slang,
so ill keep it uni-race and say
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Jeez... From the tone of some of your posts, I'm surprised that you would stoop to such a level. tsk...

Don't be so condescending.
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Wichita said: So I guess I've been around the globe. Although I haven't dated a latin chick.

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Come at you with some intellect? Sorry, but unlike the others here, I don't have a problem with dropping a few levels to be even with someone in an argument. You came out at me first with the hatred and anger and all I did was send some back.



Don't give me that garbage. 'Cause odds are, you wouldn't be caught dead saying that if you were dealing with posters who aren't predominantly Black. Hell, hardly anybody here writing some of these off-the-wall posts wouldn't even THINK of saying this in a group of predominantly Black group in person.

 
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If you want to read an intelligent response to your bigoted ramblings, go look to someone else like Rich or lurker, you won't get one from me here. I won't waste my time trying to reason with you after the posts you've made.


Should I go over your quotes AGAIN? Dude, get a clue!

 
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Also, since this seems like a big deal for you, I'll give you my definition of ghetto. A person who acts stupid, immature, and aggressive. I can understand someone who actually lived in the ghetto acting like that (hard world and all that), but I don't understand when people who have no reason to act like that, act like that. People have to respect themselves and not emulate stupidity just because its cool. And no matter what skin color, a person can be ghetto (or urban, or w/e).


And "Urban" is a codeword for Black.

Yeah, I can barely contain my contemptous laughter at that explanation.

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Urban is a word refering to cities. Its only a codeword to blacks with a "the white man is out to get me" attitude.
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That's what you think...and anybody with an IQ below 90 would believe that crap. That's why, especially up here, they called Urban Music Month last month, instead of Black Music Month.

Guess all Black folk live in the city...idiots...

It's amazing the internet can make people bold. Thank God I'm the same both online and off.

heh

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1) Sudan has jungle, swamps, river basins and flood plains. And here I thought it was all dessert like you see on TV.



 
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Originally posted by GDS-1:What? It's full of cake and ice cream and pies...? What? no spell check? It's DESERT, NOT DESSERT!


OMG I didn't use spell check !!.

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2) I'm reaping rewears from a time when a black slave was worth more then an Irish man. I'd love to know what exactly it is I'm getting. As far as I know there is no white people club that gets special funds and services that black people can't. In fact it goes the other way 'round.



 
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Originally posted by GDS-1:Oh God...apparently you didn't bother to read all of my posts, and that comment proves it.


Nope didn't waste my time..

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3) I pay my highest earning employee way to much because in America black people are only allowed to earn less then whitey.



 
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Originally posted by GDS-1:And your smart mouth comments are really helping the conversation, right?


What conversation? The one where white people are the problem for everything..

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This crying about slavery is not going to get a black man ahead in this world niether is talking or acting like a ghetto star. If black people spent more time educating themselves instead of calling everyting racism maybe just maybe the future would look much much better.


 
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Originally posted by GDS-1:Future according to who? And just because you don't wanna talk about it doesn't mean it's going to just vanish. You don't even have the courage to even look at statistical evidence from the independant studies institutions that back up my claim. And you're making a far more generalized statement saying we are not educated...?


The future accoring to white people because we all know the word future means diffrent thing depending on what colour you are. Statistics are bogus and can be made to convey any message. I'm sure if I looked I could find just as many stats, that counter yours. I don't say your not educated black people do. "Tests to graduate are racist"." Black people get a lesser education because they are black". I hear a lot of bitching about how whitey is holding down black America but none about the absurd levels of single parents, a culture that gloryfies drugs and gangs and beating women. Why are the drop out numbers for blacks so much higher then whites? Is it because the white man makes it harder for blacks or is it because black culture tells you being smart and educated is being "white"..

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This whole culture of "whitey owes me" and "its all whites fault" is pathtic. The only person the owes you is you. The only person you can blame is you. And those statements apply to all races.



 
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Originally posted by GDS-1:Hmm...then I guess BY YOUR LOGIC, we wanted to be slaves in this country and we should ignore that WRITTEN PROMISE of 40 acres and a mule.



No by my logic if you want 40 acres and mule jack you need to work for it and save your money to purches it like everybody else. That promise was not to you but to the slaves. Now you show me one living slave that didn't get his and I'll buy it for him. .
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f you want to talk about slavery do so in an broader view then just all blacks are slave desendants and all whites are slave owner decendents. Who sold the slaves to the euros? African and arab slave traders. Thats right black and arabs were slave owners too. Not evey black person in America is a slave decendant. Many blacks came here after slavery just like many whites. In the south before the civil war not all blacks were slaves.



 
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Originally posted by GDS-1:Now I know you're hallucinating. Give me some sources of your so-called facts. Until then you're talking about something you have little info on.


Prove me wrong. You can't. Not a single one of the statments I made is false. It doesn't fit your "witey is the only bad guy" mentality so you don't want to see the truth that blacks sold blacks as slaves. Africa was dealing in slave trading long before and long after the US had its awfull, shanefull time with it..

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In the north before the war there were many many blacks that were not slaves.


 
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Originally posted by GDS-1:But they weren't treated the same either...so that arguement doesn't wash.


So a free land owning black man in New Hampshire doesn't count. Why? Because it doesn't fit what you want history to be. Get over it dude..

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There were also some black slave owners in America. The civil war wasn't faught purely for the reason of slavery but alot of white men died trying to free slaves. Many more white soilders died then there were slaves.



 
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Originally posted by GDS-1:MYTH #1: The civil war was about slavery. FACT: Lincoln wanted to preserve the Union; had nothing to do with slaves. Frederick Douglass called him out on that. If the situation was reversed, and the South wanted to leave the US would still be at war. Period

The next myth you did not specifically state but this is still relevent to the lies that was taught in school.

MYTH #2: The Emancipation Proclamation freed the slaves. The hell it did. That was legally useless as the Southern states already split from the Union. Douglass called Lincoln on that too. The 13th Amendment freed the slaves...PHYSICALLY. That only opened up the Apartheid prototype---Jim Crow. Blacks didn't get TRUE freedom--like everyone else--until the Civil Rights Act of 1964. That was only 42 years ago. Some of you lived through it so that's not that long ago in the timespan of this country. But I guess all past indignities should just POOF! go away and forgotten. Don't you know how pathetic that is?



You have alot of it right but keep reading. Your missing the parts that don't fit your views..


Slavery is over. Black people have just as many oppertunities to get ahead in life as whites. In fact they have many more. As a white guy I cant get a university schoolarship just because I;m white. I cant get a discount on the purchase price of a home just because I'm whit. I can't get a promotion in the job place just because I'm white. Stop being oppressed by you own hand. If you want something work for it but don't expect me to lay down and give it to you because at some point in the past blacks were slaves. I never owned slaves and niether did my family. Black culture is ripe with whining and crying. Why is it black culture embaceses drug dealers and gangsers but looks down at education? I quess its the white mans master plan. Come on 50 cent is a hero but Dr. Rice is a traitor to her race because shes a sucsessfull black women. 40 years ago you could claim blacks were being held down by whites but today the only people holding blacks down are blacks. Rev. Jackson uses blacks to line his pockets. Do you think that man wants blacks to rise above? Hell no he doesn't. The more oppressed blacks are by thier own "woe is me I can't get ahead because I'm black" attitudes the more $$$$ he makes. Instead of debating me on here why not go to the corner and teach the drug dealers that they are to blame for thier own problems.
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Thats what heppens when people get together and tell other people how they feel. You arent free to express yourself without the risk that someone will disagree and will want to silence you. It is an unfortunate aspect of democracy in that you are not an individual but a pawn in a chess game. Beware of your gambit because the sacrefice you will make will be one of your own volition.
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Nope didn't waste my time..


I know some of it was over your head, but I didn't want to dumb it down for you.

 
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Slavery is over. Black people have just as many oppertunities to get ahead in life as whites. In fact they have many more. As a white guy I cant get a university schoolarship just because I;m white. I cant get a discount on the purchase price of a home just because I'm whit. I can't get a promotion in the job place just because I'm white. Stop being oppressed by you own hand. If you want something work for it but don't expect me to lay down and give it to you because at some point in the past blacks were slaves. I never owned slaves and niether did my family. Black culture is ripe with whining and crying. Why is it black culture embaceses drug dealers and gangsers but looks down at education? I quess its the white mans master plan. Come on 50 cent is a hero but Dr. Rice is a traitor to her race because shes a sucsessfull black women. 40 years ago you could claim blacks were being held down by whites but today the only people holding blacks down are blacks. Rev. Jackson uses blacks to line his pockets. Do you think that man wants blacks to rise above? Hell no he doesn't. The more oppressed blacks are by thier own "woe is me I can't get ahead because I'm black" attitudes the more $$$$ he makes. Instead of debating me on here why not go to the corner and teach the drug dealers that they are to blame for thier own problems.


You sound like that racist Bruno from Black/White.

1. You don't know a damn thing about my culture to even make that bogus statement.
2. You think every Black person follows Jackson? What, I'm supposed to follow him? You are pathetically mistaken. I follow NO ONE.
3. And attitudes like yours aren't helping either.

You don't wanna hear me, but thaks okay. Just because You deny what I say doesn't make it any less true. And Yeah, I know now you wouldn't dare say crap like this if this subject was discussed IN PERSON.

See, I'm guessing I'm the only Black person on this thread. So it seems mighty comfortable to say what you're saying here.

Not that it matters, Condi Rice is being looked down on by SOME Blacks because she's working for BUSH.

Act like you know...oops. You can't.
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I just want to find a girlfriend/companion. I don't give a sh** what race she is.



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That is appalling...heaven forbid I go to South Dakota.



Why??? are you AFRICAN? And to say you're AFRICAN or AFRICAN-AMERICAN is about as ignorant as me going around saying I'm Norweigen or Norweigen-American.

Quite honestly GDS-1, and this is from a TRAINED Equal Opportunity Representative in the military, from your posts, YOU are just as racist, if not more racist than the other posters in this thread.

Give me a 15 minute recorded one on one conversation with you and I bet that you will have more racist remarks in that conversation than if we even put Tinton one on one with you.
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Hey Phranc and GDS-1...

You know we're talking about dating, right? If you wanna b!tch about racial inequality or whatever, why don't you start a new thread or take it to PMs, instead of trashing this thread?

Thank you for your consideration.
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Originally posted by GDS-1:


You sound like that racist Bruno from Black/White.

1. You don't know a damn thing about my culture to even make that bogus statement.
Your right I know nothing about black culture. It doesn't surrond me daily. I only live in an area thats a majority black. 8 out of 14 people that work for me are black but they must not count. Black culture only exsists in black peoples homes and isn't found any where else..

2. You think every Black person follows Jackson? What, I'm supposed to follow him? You are pathetically mistaken. I follow NO ONE.
You follow no one but yet you hold the same views as him and many other black public faces..

3. And attitudes like yours aren't helping either.

What attitude? The one where I think you need to stop being a victem of your own conseptions? The one that says you need to bust your ass to get ahead in life even if your black? The one that is sick of being told that slavery is why blacks can't get ahead today?.

You don't wanna hear me, but thaks okay. Just because You deny what I say doesn't make it any less true. And Yeah, I know now you wouldn't dare say crap like this if this subject was discussed IN PERSON.

Yea you're right I'd cower in fear. I have these dicusions all the time in person with blacks, hispanics and asians. I don't fear letting my oppinion be known..

See, I'm guessing I'm the only Black person on this thread. So it seems mighty comfortable to say what you're saying here.
I'd say the same things if I was the only white guy. See I don't care what colour you are untill you say you cant get ahead because of your colour or that you want special treatment because of your colour. I'm willing to bet your not the only black person on this thread. In fact I'd like to know what they think about this..

Not that it matters, Condi Rice is being looked down on by SOME Blacks because she's working for BUSH.

Act like you know...oops. You can't.


Insulting my inteligence cheapens your arrgument. Its incredably childish and no one will take you seriously..
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Originally posted by Blacktree:

Hey Phranc and GDS-1...

You know we're talking about dating, right? If you wanna b!tch about racial inequality or whatever, why don't you start a new thread or take it to PMs, instead of trashing this thread?

Thank you for your consideration.


Word dude I'm sorry.
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Quite honestly GDS-1, and this is from a TRAINED Equal Opportunity Representative in the military, from your posts, YOU are just as racist, if not more racist than the other posters in this thread.

Give me a 15 minute recorded one on one conversation with you and I bet that you will have more racist remarks in that conversation than if we even put Tinton one on one with you.



Bring it!

I'll prove you wrong. Honestly.


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Originally posted by Blacktree:

Hey Phranc and GDS-1...

You know we're talking about dating, right? If you wanna b!tch about racial inequality or whatever, why don't you start a new thread or take it to PMs, instead of trashing this thread?

Thank you for your consideration.



Wasn't intended to...but with this subject--dating and race--opens up a large Pandora's box. Tinton said some things--among certain other posters--and I had to call 'em on it. Read that post.
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Originally posted by Blacktree:
Hey Phranc and GDS-1...
You know we're talking about dating, right?


OMG!
I just realized another, probably very real, reason why more white men don't date black women.

It's not worth dealing with the possibility of receiving all the sh!t from guys like GDS-1 who might take offense at such an occurance, not to mention all the redneck counterparts. Sad.

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