This came up in another forum.

Why don't black women date white guys?

Seems to be no issue for black guys to date white girls, but as a "generlization" black women don't date white guys.

Hoping Mistress will answer.. Don't know if its cultural or just a general prefernce.

Not completely true.
There's a black woman who used to work in the same center as I do, who dated a white guy.
There's another black woman who works here who I'm pretty sure wouldn't have any problem with it, either.
She's quite... uhhh.... friendly.
Very cool and very nice, actually.

A while back, way before I got married, there was a black couple who lived across the street from me. She offered to fix me up with one of her friends. Never came to pass, though.

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I have asked more then a few black women that very question.

"White guys are boring and too "soft"."
By "soft", they ment that white guys are too submissive for a black womans aggressive personality.

I have also asked what they think of black men dating white girls.
They hate it.

"White girls (they used another word) will let a black man (they used another word) get away with stuff we wouldn't put up with! Them white girls (they used another word) won't say "boo" to a black man!"

My thoughts are, it's all based in cultural agressive/submissive differencies.
Kinda like why some white men think they will get a submissive woman by marrying an Asian woman.

For me, color takes a back seat to personality.
I have met good counterparts to my personality, from ALL walks of life.
Even some MALES, which is downright disturbing on more then a few levels!
And NO, I'm not. (i don't THINK anyway!)
Not that there's anything WRONG with that, if that's your thing!
It's just not my thing.
NOW I sound like I'm trying to convince MYSELF!

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Edgar Bronfmann, owner of Seagrams, and many other things, is married to a black woman.
It DOES seem more common for black men to date white women than the other way around, though.
Someday, it won't matter.
From the movie Bulworth: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118798/
""All we need is a voluntary, free-spirited, open-ended program of procreative racial deconstruction. Everybody just gotta keep ****in' everybody 'til they're all the same color. "
-Senator Bulworth

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quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: From the movie Bulworth: ""All we need is a voluntary, free-spirited, open-ended program of procreative racial deconstruction. Everybody just gotta keep ****in' everybody 'til they're all the same color. " -Senator Bulworth

Yeah, I have ALWAYS loved that quote!
And the whole movie, for that matter!

Chocked-full-o-truth, too!
One color would solve SO MANY problems!
It can't happen SOON ENOUGH.

quote Originally posted by Uaana: Why don't black women date white guys? Don't know if its cultural or just a general prefernce.

Hmm...I thought they already do? Money and good personallity tends to "equal or cancel" negetive things out, hehe. It seem to work pretty good for Billy and Hallie in the movie, Monster's Ball.

quote From the movie Bulworth: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118798/ ""All we need is a voluntary, free-spirited, open-ended program of procreative racial deconstruction. Everybody just gotta keep ****in' everybody 'til they're all the same color. " -Senator Bulworth

Unfortunately, many blacks/Hispanics/etc propagate racial stereotypes. For example, many of the black staff I work with in my job (prison) seem to speak and act like they're from "the hood". There's one officer who came from a very upscale background (parents are both doctors, lived in an upscale neighborhood, went to a prep school, etc) who talks and acts like he was raised in the ghetto. I asked him about it (I tend to speak my mind) and he replied, "Sh**, my n****. Wass you tink. I a bad mother f***er.". I don't know why people have to put on airs.

quote Originally posted by Monkeyman: Unfortunately, many blacks/Hispanics/etc propagate racial stereotypes. For example, many of the black staff I work with in my job (prison) seem to speak and act like they're from "the hood". There's one officer who came from a very upscale background (parents are both doctors, lived in an upscale neighborhood, went to a prep school, etc) who talks and acts like he was raised in the ghetto. I asked him about it (I tend to speak my mind) and he replied, "Sh**, my n****. Wass you tink. I a bad mother f***er.". I don't know why people have to put on airs.

Sad but true. I think that they try to impress their "homies" there and at home. It may also have to do with music choice. They try to imitate their idol artists, who speak that way. I personally know what music choices do to people....

quote Originally posted by Monkeyman: I don't know why people have to put on airs.

To empower themselves.
To fill gaps in a percieved empty self-image.
To mimic traits they don't have, but percieve & admire in others.
To assimulate the "herd", rather then stand uniquely alone.
Acting out their group image of "cool".

To be "the same" and/or "better then".

BTW second reason I'm asking.
There's a girl at work, I like her, we both get along great.. but she's black and doesnt even think about white guys.
Weird since we've flirted and whatnot at after work parties, but come sunrise, or less beers I'm off limits again.
I find it annoying since I like her and don't really care what color she is (I"m not trying to fulfill a fantasy).. but once the lights are on as it were I'm off limits.

My apologies for dragging my personal life into this.. but hey.. I like her.. Just hate that as soon as she remembers shes's Black I'm no longer an option.

quote Originally posted by Uaana: BTW second reason I'm asking. There's a girl at work, I like her, we both get along great.. but she's black and doesnt even think about white guys. Weird since we've flirted and whatnot at after work parties, but come sunrise, or less beers I'm off limits again. I find it annoying since I like her and don't really care what color she is (I"m not trying to fulfill a fantasy).. but once the lights are on as it were I'm off limits. but hey.. I like her.. Just hate that as soon as she remembers shes's Black I'm no longer an option.

It may be all about what her "peeps" would think.
"Selling out to the slave owner" and all that other kind of bullshit that cross-culture haters try to foist on forward-thinkers.

i almost married a black woman, which is saying a lot since i'm not the marrying kind. we were together 7 years, were friends for years before that. we went our separate ways over career issues, she got a job in SC and I got one in VA.

because of the culture, black women have strong personalities. it takes a man with a strong personality (not "hard", but you must know who you are) to deal with that, and the fact that friends, family and the general population sometimes throw up roadblocks.

sometimes in the course of the day i see appealing black women, but they are generally cautious in their dealings with white men. there are a lot of reasons why they dont want to get involved, some from the peer pressure and some from the cultural issues.

growing up in the 60s and 70s there was a cultural openness to difference among the young, i'm not so sure it's still there. i had no problem with hendrix or blues or motown, she had no problem with the allman brothers or grateful dead. i'm certain i cant relate to rap. and it goes deeper, at least to the inequality in the relations between tom jefferson and sally hemming, which still dogs us.

if youre interested in her, sound her out as you would any other woman. she may have preconcieved notions about what you want, and you can dispel or confirm them. honesty and openness are the foundations of any relationship. go from there. luck.

I dated a black girl years ago.Not long after my first wife left me(damn redheads..lol) .We got along great and the relationship was good.I just got alot of flack from my family.They dont believe in the whole interacial thing even though I am part Native American on my mothers side(not a huge part but enough to make me legaly one).The relationship ended though mostly because it was a long distance relationship(her being in NYC and my being in central NY).I see nothing wrong with it.Unfortunately the steriotypes are on both sides.

I don't think that's at all true. I've seen many black women with white guys.

quote Originally posted by lurker: it takes a man with a strong personality .. ..there are a lot of reasons why they dont want to get involved, some from the peer pressure and some from the cultural issues.

That's it right there. Most black women have a strong cultural identity, and are uhh... opinionated. If most of her friends are black, chances are good she's not interested in you. I think that peer pressure thing comes up a lot. Really.

I dated several black women. I was hooked-up with one for several years. And I'm all whitey with the little pecker.

It was all good, no real problems with family or society, except there is a difference in culture. You do get the occasional stares, but for the most part, I don't think people really care.

Today! I'm married to an Asian.

I also dated a woman from Pakistan for awhile.

So I guess I've been around the globe. Although I haven't dated a latin chick.

quote Originally posted by Uaana: BTW second reason I'm asking. There's a girl at work, I like her, we both get along great.. but she's black and doesnt even think about white guys. Weird since we've flirted and whatnot at after work parties, but come sunrise, or less beers I'm off limits again. I find it annoying since I like her and don't really care what color she is (I"m not trying to fulfill a fantasy).. but once the lights are on as it were I'm off limits.

Hmm... Maybe it due to her age, geographical, family history, friends, preferences or simply ignorance? Most of your questions maybe best answered by her. But for the most part, some of your questions are perhaps right in front of you? What's her racial make-up of friends on and off work? Does she equally hang with... Whites, Blacks asian, Mexican, or Others? Where does she live? Is it mostly mixed or one sided?

My first girlfriend was a black chick. Since her I've hooked up with few black chicks. It has more to do with general culture of the area. I grew up over seas on a military base with a higher rate of diversity and less biases.

quote Originally posted by Uaana: BTW second reason I'm asking. There's a girl at work, I like her, we both get along great.. but she's black and doesnt even think about white guys. Weird since we've flirted and whatnot at after work parties, but come sunrise, or less beers I'm off limits again. I find it annoying since I like her and don't really care what color she is (I"m not trying to fulfill a fantasy).. but once the lights are on as it were I'm off limits. My apologies for dragging my personal life into this.. but hey.. I like her.. Just hate that as soon as she remembers shes's Black I'm no longer an option.

If shes really set in her ways she probably feels that blue birds should fly with blue birds & in her case black birds fly with black birds just like in nature. Ocassionaly you might find a robin or two amongst the flock.

...or in your specific case, she "just don't dig white guys"

...I don't dig asian chicks... nothing personal, they just don't float my boat.

It's not something we "WHITES" are *allowed* to talk about, but there is MASSIVE Reverse-Racism(Still just plain old racism IMHO) in America/The World. Somehow it's not viewed as *wrong* in America because of something *some* whites did hundreds of years ago.

Don't even get me started on the Arab/African slave traders(not white),

As one famous comedian once said, "I don't see what's the problem with racism, Once the lights are off, it's all the same."

I just want to find a girlfriend/companion. I don't give a sh** what race she is.

I don't really think its a matter of race, but more of a matter of class and culture. I have no problem with black girls who "act white", I've been attracted to many. I don't like black girls who act "ghetto" at all. In fact, I don't like white girls who act ghetto, at all. Its just a personality I'm not compatible with. Stupidity+aggression is not a recipe for attraction in my book. I've seen plenty of black girls with white guys, but they're usually in the same "class" and "culture". Like, "wiggers" dating ghetto black girls, and preppy white guys dating preppy black girls. The only reason white guy+black girl is kind of "rare" is because a lot of African American families are either A. Actually in the ghetto or B. Living a suburban lifestyle while emulating the ghetto lifestyle, and not many white guys are in those same areas. I hope that changes though, and things become balanced. Because hip-hop is becoming more mainstream you'll probably see white/black more often as cultures mix. I'm not into rap or whatever though, if I meet a black girl who's into the same stuff as me and has a personality I like, I'll probably date her. It helps that I like big butts and I cannot lie .

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Ive seen both couples quite a bit. I personally think anyone of any race should date people of their own race...simply because it makes life far simpler. Ive seen many bi racial kids treated as outcasts by both along with the parents. If anyone takes that as being racist, it isnt meant as that....just a statement of real world fact. Of my 2 best friends for years, one is white and one is black .

quote Originally posted by Tinton: I'll probably date her. It helps that I like big butts and I cannot lie .

Hehehe.

quote Originally posted by 87FieroGTx: It's not something we "WHITES" are *allowed* to talk about, but there is MASSIVE Reverse-Racism(Still just plain old racism IMHO) in America/The World. Somehow it's not viewed as *wrong* in America because of something *some* whites did hundreds of years ago. Don't even get me started on the Arab/African slave traders(not white),

Oh NO...DON'T GO THERE.

[quote]Somehow it's not viewed as *wrong* in America because of something *some* whites did hundreds of years ago.[/quotes]

Damn. I guess I DO have to go there...in order to educate ones of little minds. Whether you agree or not (not that I TRULY care) Whites are still benefiting from slavery...and it's the only issue majority of Whites refused to understand. I'm gonna make a rare assumption that you have some mediocrum of intellegence. Check out the figures of housing, healthcare, pay rate, education descrepencies between Whites and Blacks.


It's amazing how people don't wanna deal with this. This is how come we still have racism and continue to have racism in this country...cause of attitudes like YOURS.

Thank you for keeping the flames of hate alive.

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oops, looks like someone stepped on a nerve.

however, this looks a little suspicious to me.
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racism exists, and it is not the exclusive province of whites. it's gotten better since my youth, and i look forward to a day when race will be an irrelevant curiosity. but i dont expect it to happen in my lifetime. till them, i choose my friends carefully, based on how they act, not how they look.

quote Originally posted by lurker: oops, looks like someone stepped on a nerve. however, this looks a little suspicious to me. GDS-1 Date Registered: 02-27-2006 Status: Member Total Posts: 120 Current Email: Not available. Homepage: http:// Occupation: Location: Tacoma,WA,USA Interests: ICQ Number:

What's the point of posting that? Most of that I choose is PRIVATE... So BE suspicious.

quote Originally posted by Wichita: a latin chick.

mmmmmmmmm Latin woman mmmmmmmm LOL !

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bieng born and raised in South Dakota, we dont have alot of blacks here so i never really grew up ith the whole inter racial thing as a part of my local "culture"
BUT
in the past 8 years or so sioux falls (where i live) they have made it a port of entry of sorts for ethieopians, and sudaniese (sp?) (( people fron sudan)) and alot of other areas arround there, but there not the "north american" blacks, there the deep black, nearly purple, that are straight out of the tribes that have the lines scared in their foreheads you see alot of thoes guys here with white women, but never the other way arround
they seem to go after the "larger plus sized" lower class white women too

its nice to have people like that here from other ****ries because they actually APPREACIATE living here they come here knowing nothing and they try soo hard... since they come from literly nothing,.. living the jungle in tribes

but im just a honkey from SD

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quote Originally posted by $Rich$: living the jungle in tribes but im just a honkey from SD

They would most likely be from Sahara and sub-Sahara africa states. Not jungles but desserts.

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quote Originally posted by GDS-1: What's the point of posting that? Most of that I choose is PRIVATE... So BE suspicious.

the point of posting that was because it is a common tactic of trolls to conceal information such as e-mail address or interests. since your posts appeared somewhat agitated it seemed possible that you were more interested in provoking a reaction than actually contributing to the discussion.

ive spent the last couple of minutes reading your posts in other areas of the forum. you appear to have an 88gt with a 5 speed, so i will assume for now that your presence here is legitimate.

quote Originally posted by GDS-1: matter of fact...Damn right it stepped on a nerve. You think I shouldn't step up to somebody if they're disrespecting/offending members of my race!? You think I should keep my mouth shut like a "good little Negro"?

no, i dont expect you to do nothing, but (IMO) you could have addressed the racism issue without trying to inflame passion further. i personally think of myself and others, as persons, not as black, brown, white, red or yellow. those who choose to think of themselves as a frequency of reflected light are shortchanging themselves.

i appreciate your use of good grammar and spelling. if there's anything that annoys me, it's people who mangle their own language.

i'll be glad to continue this conversation via PM if you wish.

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Please, tell me how we've disrespected you? When I say "we" I don't mean "white people", I mean the other people who posted in this thread. Don't look at things as just being black and white, that IS racism. Personally, I'm drunk as **** right now, and I'm tired of the **** I've had to take for what my ancestors did. Hell, my ancestors didn't have ANYTHING to do with slavery, every single one of them was either a Native American or was living in Europe up until the late 1800's. You lump all white people together as the "slave owners", well, a LOT of us didn't have a single ****ing thing to do with that. And you talk stereotypes? Oh yeah, its stereotypical for a white man living in the south to be a former "slave owner" who is keeping everyone else down and hates everyone.

No, I don't think you should keep your mouth shut, you can say what you want to say. What I do disagree with is the TONE that you used in your responses.

About your responses to my post, what you came up with is your intepretation, in no way was my post meant to be inflammatory or racist.

Act "white"? It really isn't white as it is being well-mannered and kind. That has nothing to do with the color or your skin. Period. I have a right to choose what I'm attracted to, my entire post can pretty much be summed up like this: "I don't care about skin color, I just want a girl who has things in common with me". Sorry if I'm not attracted to self-assertive angry women, that just ISN'T my thing.

When did I say that "black folk" can only be 2 things? And when did I say that white people can be "all things"? I just narrowed it down. Preppy and "ghetto" can also be called "rich" and "poor", if you like. I've had to live in both during my lifetime. And please, don't give me **** for calling poser white boys "wiggers", I've been called "****ing cracker" enough in my life. Wiggers is a legitimate term for describing white boys who purposefully (and painfully) try to act "ghetto".

Racist drivel? Come live where I live, and see what I'm talking about. I'm merely commenting on what I see. Where I went to high school it was more than 50% minority, there were 10 African American guys in my grade who actually acted "preppy", the rest acted like they were from the "streets" even though most of them came from the same suburban area I lived in.

Who "jacked" rock and roll? Is Eminem "jacking" rap? I don't know, I only been here for two decades.

So, you're saying I'm into the KKK and Aryan Nations? You are completely wrong and completely out of your mind. I guess you'll spin that into racism too, eh? . So, since we're making stuff up about eachother, is this the part where I'm supposed to make something up about your mother and call you "gay"? Let the immaturity continue!

Ignorant racist post? Nothing I said was blatently racist, all of what you took as "racism" is what you interpretated.

Also. You think I should keep my mouth shut like a "good little cracker"?

quote Originally posted by Phranc: They would most likely be from Sahara and sub-Sahara africa states. Not jungles but desserts.

yes your correct

quote Originally posted by GDS-1: And there's many bi-racial kids who DON'T get treated as outcasts. Life ain't simple. And as for the friend aspect...wanna cookie?

This is something I agree with. Many bi-racial kids don't get treated as outcasts. I'm just out of highschool, and there wasn't a single bi-racial kid who was an outcast. There were a couple of crazy white kids (ehhhh....didn't mess with them, didn't want another Columbine) and they were pretty much the only outcasts. Wish they weren't, but I wasn't the one who put them in that situation. Quite frankly, the bi-racial kids were the ones who could bridge the gaps and be in several groups at one time. I was kind of like that, I hung out with the nerds, skaters, etc, the only group I didn't associate with was the preppies. They were always too mean and nasty. I can be mean too, but it usually takes something to set me off, with them they were mean 24/7.