quote Originally posted by Mastermind: Foxfire, not interested in proving anything to you or my other detractors. Why not take pictures of your car and post them?

My car isn't worth posting right now, and I don't have a 4.9 like you supposedly do.

As for proving anything, I'm asking you to allow me to post pics for the people that don't live near you.

How many of you forum members would like me to get a few pictures of Mastermind's 4.9 Fiero?

I would like to apologize to cliff and all of the forum members out there (except mastermind) for my previous post .Now back to the fierorama pics.

Chris .

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I have to back Firefox(steve ) on this one, he is willing to drive over to your house, on his own time and money, and also buy you lunch, what gives? I too will take up the challenge, I live on the north west side of chicago, and can make it even easier for us to get together. Also with the Fieroramma thing, and not finding Archie, thats BS, anyone can spot Archie from a mile away, he is a pretty tall guy with a "unique" figure I might add. I usually sit back and watch these threads, and say nothing, but this is getting rediculous. Oh yeah, I WAS at Fieroramma, look...

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quote Originally posted by Mastermind: As if I'm the only one here with a 4.9 he has plenty of other members to choose from.

Just because something is posted doesn't mean it's true. I could post a picture and photoshop it to look anyway I want, color, wheels, engine bay etc. Anyone remember certain timeslips that were posted? Therefore, take comfort in believing whatever you want.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: Just because something is posted doesn't mean it's true. I could post a picture and photoshop it to look anyway I want, color, wheels, engine bay etc. Anyone remember certain timeslips that were posted? Therefore, take comfort in believing whatever you want.

So let FireFox get a few pics.....

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: Just because something is posted doesn't mean it's true. I could post a picture and photoshop it to look anyway I want, color, wheels, engine bay etc. Anyone remember certain timeslips that were posted? Therefore, take comfort in believing whatever you want.

So my pics of my car are photoshopped? Nice try loser but plenty of people have seen my car it does exist i drive it daily ,perform my own maintenance and punk meatheads like you all the time . Why don't you take a pic of yourself and photoshop a brain on it. Like i said before PUT UP OR SHUT UP !
Hey check it out a 4.9 turbo can anyone guess who's car it isn't in?

I'd rather not post any pictures. I'm sure some will accept my perogative not too and others won't. Such is life.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: I'd rather not post any pictures..

Why?

Now for my ALL KNOWING AND POWERFUL THOUGHT ON THIS.

Can we just let this die. This dude is a fake. Let it go, let him live in the fantasy life he has created. Im no archie supporter, nor and I against him. Im for ALL Fiero owners, but Im not for BSers(is that right?).

You had your chance to make good on your word. You blew it. So just go away.

No one wants you on here, and I think if you do still want to be a part of this place you will agree.

So go away, regroup, and go get some integrity. Time heals all wounds and many people on here have gone away and come back to open arms.

The further you take this though the longer this place will be against you.

So stop lying.

Put Up or Shut Up.

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88GT 5 spd Red w/tan int. engine swap later....still doesnt run well.
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quote Originally posted by Masterbator: I LIKE TO PLAY WITH 12 YEAR OLD BOYS!

your sick

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quote Originally posted by crzyone: Pretty much done, just waiting on the wiring harness. Once its in the car its off to the exhaust shop, I already have the mandrel bends, just need them to weld and its done.

Damn, you dont waste any time do you You're using the 4 speed right? That sucka's gonna fly.

And Mastermind, I like the caddy tranny, but im going to upgrade it to the 4T65EHD in the future. I have a plan or 2 for my little motor.

quote Originally posted by Mr. Pat: Damn, you dont waste any time do you You're using the 4 speed right? That sucka's gonna fly. And Mastermind, I like the caddy tranny, but im going to upgrade it to the 4T65EHD in the future. I have a plan or 2 for my little motor.

What's the advantage in going with the 4T65EHD? I know it's heavy duty but they say it weights a ton.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: I'd rather not post any pictures. I'm sure some will accept my perogative not too and others won't. Such is life.

He won't post picks because it's probably pink with a fuzzy steering wheel and pastel seat covers from K-Mart's Barbie collection.
The reason he Passes so many cars going light to light is they are too busy laughing at him and his pink car. He thinks his 4.9L is so fast but still he won't race me. He is the one that says I'll see his tail lights, When I accepted and wanted him to do it for pink slips, he chickened out. How about $1000.00 cash? Would you race for cash?

OH SNAP MASTEBATOR YOU ARE BEING CALLED OUT!!!!!!!

Dude if your car is so quick why dont' you race Orief? Everyone here knows what it does at the track!

BTW I thougth you pulled yoru engine Orief?

The 65 that im going to get has LSD and is rated at 500hp and 550tq. You need those numbers when you plan on turbo charging an LT1 The 80 is the heavy one. The 65 isnt a whole lot bigger physically.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: Just because something is posted doesn't mean it's true..

Exactly.....

That's why no one can understand why you don't take Firefox up on his offer. He's willing to drive down to you...take pics with his camera....verify that you do, in fact, own the car...and even buy you lunch. You have absolutely NOTHING to lose. So, by refusing to do so, you only validate the theory that you don't own a 4.9 Fiero...or a Fiero of ANY kind.

quote What do I gain by posting pictures for people who only help CLETUS belittle 4.9 swaps?

Credibility...

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: I can't post any pictures. I don't have a Fiero. I'm sure some will accept my perogative to lie and others won't. Such is life.

That's what it should have said.

quote Originally posted by Firefox: That's what it should have said.

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quote Originally posted by Oreif: Actually, I found out AFTER this thread was started that you did have a Fiero with a 4.9L installed. It was installed by Ed Parks. Then I talked with a few people and found out a few other things about you including what a few folks at Ed's place really think of you. I actually know a lot more than you think. I'm just seeing if you are man enough to stand up for yourself. Alas, You are not. Everytime I ask you to prove something, You give excuses or avoid my question all together. Many people here have explained that they just want you to stand by your word. Then you start the "I have nothing to prove" BS. You tell me you'll "see me at the lights", I accepted your challenge and you STILL avoid it. There are a few members willing to drive a good distance just to take a pic and again you chicken out or avoid the offer. On day you'll grow up and lose some of that misplaced ego and gain some self-respect. Until that day comes (if ever), You will always be thought of as someone who is full of BS and does not stand by his word.

Irrespective of all the coaxing, I reserve the right not to post pictures.

OREIF CALLED YOU OUT!!! RACE HIM YOU PU55Y!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And its even on the street where we all know its where you like to race! Or is his car not a 16 second car so you will have to decline on that offer?

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: Irrespective of all the coaxing, I reserve the right not to post pictures.

Fine, But can you at least answer two questions:

1.) Why didn't you keep your word that you would bring it to Fierorama and also introduce yourself to Archie??

2.) Why do you not want to race after YOU called me out?

Just to refresh your memory: "I hope we meet up at a light so you can tell be how much better the back of my GT look over your notchback. "

(BTW ~ You can tell me all you want about the back of your GT as you watch the taillights of my notchback as I easily pull away from you.)

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I still hope we meet at a light while I'm out and about. However, I'm not going out of my way to do it.

I am sure he would have no problem driving to your house. How not out of the way could that be? Then you guys can go race. Also firefox said he would take pics of your car. Meet you wherever you want. So that cant' be out of the way for you.

You are just making excuses now. You are one pathetic human being. Please leave this forum. You suck and we all know it.

SH

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: I still hope we meet at a light while I'm out and about. However, I'm not going out of my way to do it.

You are so full of excuses.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: I reserve the right not to post pictures.

That's really mature.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: I still hope we meet at a light while I'm out and about. However, I'm not going out of my way to do it.

Just name an intersection or light and a time/date. You won't have to "go out of your way". This appears to be the only way you'll race. I don't cruise the gay/lesbian side of town so we would never meet by chance.

quote Originally posted by The Punisher: I am sure he would have no problem driving to your house. How not out of the way could that be? Then you guys can go race. Also firefox said he would take pics of your car. Meet you wherever you want. So that cant' be out of the way for you. You are just making excuses now. You are one pathetic human being. Please leave this forum. You suck and we all know it. SH

Maybe I'll think about it AFTER you learn to drive a manual and meet earl with his 4.9 at the drag strip. you little twinkie.

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why dont' you reply to everyone elses post. Orief is calling you out and telling you to name a place. name it punk.

this thread isnt' about me. ITS ABOUT YOU!!! man up punk beyotch and meet orief and proceed with the ass spanking your wimpy 4.9 deserves. if you even have one.

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I'm not even sure he owns a fiero anymore... probibly a beat up miled out oil burning pos.

quote Originally posted by litespd: Credibility...

Ouch, there's the closing word... Mastermind, you're digging yourself deeper the more you post, are you trying to get banned? What woyld be the good in that?

And back to the interesting stuff...What kind of intake on that turbo'd 4.9 up ^there^ FIEROPHREK?

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quote Originally posted by The Punisher: why dont' you reply to everyone elses post. Orief is calling you out and telling you to name a place. name it punk.

He doesn't reply to everyones post because everyone keeps eliminating his excuses. He said he didn't want to "go out of his way"
So I made it so he wouldn't have to, thus removing his latest excuse, But as you can see he completely ignored my post.
I think he knows that I would beat him and he's trying to save face. Too bad it's affecting his credibility. (Not to mention when he says he's going to do something and he does not.) He even posted in the 4.9L 1/4 mile time thread that his car was only good light to light and was a poor drag racer.

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quote Originally posted by Oreif: He even posted in the 4.9L 1/4 mile time thread that his car was only good light to light and was a poor drag racer.

isn't light to light drag racing?

quote Originally posted by USFiero: Ouch, there's the closing word... Mastermind, you're digging yourself deeper the more you post, are you trying to get banned? What woyld be the good in that? And back to the interesting stuff...What kind of intake on that turbo'd 4.9 up ^there^ FIEROPHREK?

Hey USFIERO i can openly admit that is not my car. I took that pic at carlisle this year and i'm unsure if its a forum members or not. I believe its a custom tube that hooks a LT1 throttle body to the 4.9's intake manifold. It was a pretty cool setup and the turbo was BIG ! I think it could take masterminds 4.9 any day of the week.

quote Originally posted by FIEROPHREK: Hey USFIERO i can openly admit that is not my car. I took that pic at carlisle this year and i'm unsure if its a forum members or not. I believe its a custom tube that hooks a LT1 throttle body to the 4.9's intake manifold. It was a pretty cool setup and the turbo was BIG ! I think it could take masterminds 4.9 any day of the week.

I believe that is Her88gt's (I think) she was at Fieroramma this year. She is from Canada.

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Hey, Mastermind. What's the deal? You going to go through with this or not? I need to know where and when so I can adjust my schedule for you.

Mark the traveler

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quote Originally posted by Golden86: I believe that is Her88gt's (I think) she was at Fieroramma this year. She is from Canada.

Yes, that is a pic of my car.

Becky

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I have a picture of masterminds car! All hail the "Air Fiero"!

You all can have all the fun you want. However, I'm not gonna post any picture of my car until I want too and no amount of coaxing, harrassment or insults is gonna change it.

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quote Originally posted by Mastermind: You all can have all the fun you want. However, I'm not gonna post any picture of my car until I want too and no amount of coaxing, harrassment or insults is gonna change it.

If that didn't sound like a 3rd grade retort, I don't know what does.....