Ahh so males in their mid-twenties is what you think about when crusing in the Fiero.

MAsterbator, congratulations on your kill of yet another 16 second automobile. Your car is ub3r f4st y0!

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quote Originally posted by Oreif: Like I said, If you had made the statement BEFORE you broke your word, I would have believed you about the race with the Acura. The problem is it has been PROVEN that you are NOT be able to keep your word, So why should we believe you now???

I never said I had weapons of mass destruction. Unless you count how the 4.9 destroys most light to light competition.

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quote Originally posted by Mastermind: [snip] it's not like your some kinda ace mechanic or something. [snip]

Yeah, Archie hasn't done any swaps. He's never engineered a complete chassis overhaul to fit a completly different body on the frame of what used to be a fiero.(GT40 if you didn't already know)

You just paid someone to do your work. Isn't your mother calling you?

Ok dude your not proving you were there though. I yes, you are saying some things that only people who were THERE would know...but wait?? All you have to do is ask someone how it was in detail....So yes you are saying some things that how Oreif was next to that guy selling all those parts and he was next to Norm but it's not that hard to get this info from someone who was there.

I haven't personally seen your other threads others are talking about, but you obviously in this thread just proved how much you are BSing. I mean do you even have any pictures of your car?? What about this, I mean you truly blew your chance to prove yourself at Fierorama cuz of all the talk you had about introducing yourself, but if you really have a 4.9 then write on a piece of paper with your PFF name on it and have it on the engine & take a picture so yeah..

Anyways, I saw a lot of people but didn't introduce myself to most people. If anyone can remember well enough, I was the kid in tan khahis with a white t-shirt with dark/black blue lettering with twin stripes on sleeves. I wonder if i'm in anybodies pictures?? lol.

Mastermind, if you have a 4.9, borrow, steal or buy a digital camera and prove it. You've been here all this time talking up your awesome 4.9 and don't care that people are now calling you a liar. I'm beginning to think that you are just a 4.9 troll and don't actually own one. How old are you Mastermind? You can't tell me you don't know anyone with a digital. Heck, you can go buy a crappy $30 digital just to prove all of us wrong. A man with integrity would care if he was being called a liar.

quote Originally posted by crzyone: Mastermind, if you have a 4.9, borrow, steal or buy a digital camera and prove it. You've been here all this time talking up your awesome 4.9 and don't care that people are now calling you a liar. I'm beginning to think that you are just a 4.9 troll and don't actually own one. How old are you Mastermind? You can't tell me you don't know anyone with a digital. Heck, you can go buy a crappy $30 digital just to prove all of us wrong. A man with integrity would care if he was being called a liar.

Cletus aka Archie and his AARP have belittled the 4.9 swap to the point that I no longer care to prove anything. My car runs fine it outruns cars on the street light to light which is what I need for my type of driving style. So, I don't care what Cletus or his supporters think or do.

BTW AARP is not American Association of Retired People. No, it means Association of Archie's Rabid Promoters. People who can find no fault in anything Cletus does or states. Irrespective of how disrespectful, crude or rude he states it.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: I never said I had weapons of mass destruction. Unless you count how the 4.9 destroys most light to light competition. No, actually I think of UFOs and how alien they are to Fieros. My car runs fine it outruns cars on the street light to light which is what I need for my type of driving style.

Do you even have a drivers license??? Are you even old enough to get one?? It is obvious you have no self respect, intelligence, or integrity. There are a bunch of members here (myself included) who just want you to prove you actually own a 4.9L Fiero. It has nothing to do with us supporting or not supporting Archie.

We just want you to prove you actually own a Fiero with a 4.9L.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: Cletus aka Archie and his AARP have belittled the 4.9 swap to the point that I no longer care to prove anything. My car runs fine it outruns cars on the street light to light which is what I need for my type of driving style. So, I don't care what Cletus or his supporters think or do. BTW AARP is not American Association of Retired People. No, it means Association of Archie's Rabid Promoters. People who can find no fault in anything Cletus does or states. Irrespective of how disrespectful, crude or rude he states it.

I don't want to takes sides or get involved in this, but honestly from your posts I've seen no level of maturity that would give archie any reason to treat you other than how he has. I think he could also take the initiative to not stoop to that level, but you aren't making any effort to make yourself seem mature/trustworthy/desirable to deal with, you simply seem to want to attack archie and have him and people who know him not deffend his integrity.
What is your purpose?

Buy a cheep disposable camera. Take pictures of your car. Got to walgreens and have them put them on to a CD.

Now you can show us that you have a 4.9 Fiero.

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Custom Gun Metal 86 GT 4.9 V8 5spd

Build up tread or MODS w/ Pics

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: Sorry to disappoint you MG but....that wasn't me. But if you want to use him to put a face on my user name go right ahead.

So that wasn't you? (as I mentioned, it was a story that was relayed to me via another PFF member... I never said I thought I saw you myself) Then... there isn't anyone to confirm your existence - so much for that theory! Guess we're just back you just being a liar

As Oreif has stated (many times) - at this point you've got no credability anywhere on this forum. By making so many bold statements, then not coming through with any - you're just another internet punk who thinks he has a car.

I'll make an offer. If he's interested in clearing this up, I'll be happy to drive down to Chicago and take a picture of him and his car, or just his car if he doesn't want his picture taken. I have to run down to Chicago next weekend anyway, and I'll be happy to settle this once and for all. There will be no cost to Mastermind at all, and I'll meet him anywhere in the metro Chicago area.....his choice.

What do you say, Mastermind? Take me up on the offer? I'll be happy to post the pics of your 4.9, and we can even play a little with our cars. I'll have a 2000 Grand Am GT1, with a 3.4 stock, and we can play a little in a parking lot somewhere safe, and I'll gladly testify that you have a fast car.

This issue has crossed into quite a few threads, and it's getting nowhere.

I'm here and I'll be waiting for a reply.

Mark

I accept to do the same as the above poster said. Hopefully in early October I will get my very own Fiero from Fiero Brian and I have to drive up to Chicago(road trip ) so I will also meet you anywhere you want and let you "stomp" on me with your 4.9.

What do I gain by posting pictures for people who only help CLETUS belittle 4.9 swaps?

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: What do I gain by posting pictures for people who only help CLETUS belittle 4.9 swaps?

Obviously you're incapable of writing or "saying" anything without going after Archie (and by doing so you're also trying your hardest to avoid the actual questions being posed) - you're apparently very simple minded in this way. Also you're clearly going out of your way to try and use Archie's full name as a derrogatory term - something the rest of us really couldn't care less about. Yep, that's his name - blessed with it at birth by his parents, and has lived his whole life with it. So what? And as for everyone here being "people who only help [Archie] belittle 4.9 swaps" - this shows your obvious ignorance of the situation and the members of the forum. I've worked on many engines, many cars, and honestly could care less what any individual chooses for their own car. It's their car and that's all that's really important. As a matter of fact, I'm helping my Dad install a 4.9 Caddy motor into his project '87 GT... does that have any affect on Archie, or even my own choice of project? Nope. Grow up already.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: What do I gain by posting pictures for people who only help CLETUS belittle 4.9 swaps?

Mastermind if you do have a 4.9 then meet him so this can all end please, if you don't then just stop posting on here.

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86 Fiero GT, 93 Northstar and 5 speed Getrag
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https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/048624.html

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: What do I gain by posting pictures for people who only help CLETUS belittle 4.9 swaps?

Has to be about 13 or 14. Only someone that age can possibly think that making fun of someone's name is a substitute for a real answer.

I know I'm wasting my time, here, but I'm going to add my voice to the others.

Mastermind, you have said you have a Fiero with a 4.9. You said you'd show it at FieroRama. You said you'd introduce yourself to Archie.

You did not introduce yourself to Archie. Saying you couldn't find him is no excuse, because all you have to do is go up to someone and ask, "Hey, have you seen Archie?" and keep doing that until you get a useful answer from someone. (And then, of course, you must actually use the information given to direct your feet towards where Archie is.) You said you would introduce yourself to Archie and you did not.

You said you would show your car at FieroRama. You did not do so.

Therefore, you are a LIAR. Capital L, capital I, capital A, capital R, period.

So why should we believe you when you say you have a Fiero with a 4.9 and you whoop on imports? You insist that we believe what you say when the only examples of your truthfulness that you've given us are two firm examples of you NOT doing what you SAID you would do.

Every time you refuse to post just ONE picture of your car (preferably one that shows the engine bay) YOU are making yourself look worse. When you try to needle Archie instead of answering the reasonable questions that have been posted, you make yourself look like a young teenager with too much time on his hand and, ehh, "overly developed forearms".

Ed

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: What do I gain by posting pictures for people who only help CLETUS belittle 4.9 swaps?

You'll prove that you have a 4.9. As for Archie, he doesn't belittle 4.9 swaps, and he himself has posted a copy of a check that he wrote a few years. That posted copy included his real name, and he doesn't hide it. Come to think of it, what is your name? Would you like to share? How about my offer to come and put this all to rest? I'll be happy to come to Chicago and take a few pictures of you car for you, and if you want, I'll have them printed out and you can have some for yourself. The drive is only a couple of hours for me, unless you are near the Indiana border, then it's more like 3 hours. But, I'm willing to help you out and show us your car, and I also said I'd like to see it perform.

See you Saturday? Just name the place and I'll be there.

Mark

This should be interesting.

And Mastermind, my post had nothing to do with Archie, just you. Put up or shut up.

He apparently can't put up, so he shut up. He's usually here namecalling by now.

quote Originally posted by Firefox: He apparently can't put up, so he shut up. He's usually here namecalling by now.

It's past his bedtime.

Holy crap man, Acural TL you say? Thats awsome. Buddy of mine has an integra, thats really fast for one, and he runs high 14's. Good times. I beat a Viper a few weeks ago, I know its only a domestic heap, but I was happy.

This thread is bad-ass. Wish I was there to show you a real swap.

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Just a viper pat? aiming kind of low arn't ya?

Yeah I know, its all I can beat

Hows the swap comming?

Pretty much done, just waiting on the wiring harness. Once its in the car its off to the exhaust shop, I already have the mandrel bends, just need them to weld and its done.

quote Originally posted by Mr. Pat: Holy crap man, Acural TL you say? Thats awsome. Buddy of mine has an integra, thats really fast for one, and he runs high 14's. Good times. I beat a Viper a few weeks ago, I know its only a domestic heap, but I was happy. This thread is bad-ass. Wish I was there to show you a real swap.

Yep, 2004 Acura TL spanked him bad. BTW Pat, I may do another swap with a SBC or Northstar. But that's a few years down the rode if I do one. How do you like that Caddy trans?

As I stated above Acura TL is a 16 second car. Wow dude your car is wicked.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: What do I gain by posting pictures for people who only help CLETUS belittle 4.9 swaps?

i am not an archie truest.
i expect my next swap to be a 4.9 cadi.
what's your phone number so i can call you for technical assistance?

quote Originally posted by buddycraigg: i am not an archie truest. i expect my next swap to be a 4.9 cadi. what's your phone number so i can call you for technical assistance?

I'd suggest contacting Darth Fiero, PBJ, Rockcrawl or Ed Parks. Those guys are at the top of their game with that swap.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: I'd suggest contacting Darth Fiero, PBJ, Rockcrawl or Ed Parks. Those guys are at the top of their game with that swap.

Man, you dodge meeting people, you make excuses for not having pictures of your car, and you don't help a 4.9 brotha out in his time of need.....

WWDHD?

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quote Originally posted by The Punisher: As I stated above Acura TL is a 16 second car. Wow dude your car is wicked.

At least I can handle my own car, you can't even drive a stick worth a damn.

www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/025996.html

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: As if I'm the only one here with a 4.9 he has plenty of other members to choose from.

But why not lend him a hand?

WWDHD?

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but....but your the mastermind

quote Originally posted by buds: but....but your the mastermind

True. But I also know that I'm not some Fiero ace mechanic deity. There are better choices for help in this regard. So he would be best served by dealing with those previously mentioned.

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: As if I'm the only one here with a 4.9 he has plenty of other members to choose from.

But.....you don't have one. If you actually had one, you'd take me up on my offer to come and take a picture for you. I'm willing to drive down from Milwaukee to do this for you and put this all to rest, but you don't even comment on it? WTF? You expect us to believe you but won't prove it? You don't deserve to be a part of this forum.

You don't have a 4.9 swap. It's in your dreams. You weren't at Fierorama. You chickened out. You probably don't even live near Chicago.

You come here, tell these lies, and then expect to be a part of civil conversation?

You are a Master-baiter, as the nickname has been bestowed upon you.

One last time.......you want to prove you have one of these cars? I'll come down to Chicago, and again, I'll meet you anywhere you are.......your house (or Mom's house), apartment, condo, trailer, or any business nearby, and I'll be happy to take a picture of your 4.9 swap and personally verify you own this. This will cost you nothing......not even gas. Tell you what. You meet me, I'll buy lunch. It's that simple. You, your car, and lunch. Doesn't get any better. I'm willing to drive 3 hours one way (if you are on the south side of the Chicago metro area)......are you willing to show> If you decide not to do this, you need to go away. As mentioned earlier, either put up or shut up. I'm offering you a chance here.....you man enough to take my offer?

Now watch. In his next posts, he'll ignore me. Maybe it's time the forum finished with this guy if he doesn't take my offer. I'm willing to do this....is he?

Mark in Milwaukee

Foxfire, not interested in proving anything to you or my other detractors. Why not take pictures of your car and post them?

quote Originally posted by Mastermind: Cletus aka Archie and his AARP have belittled the 4.9 swap to the point that I no longer care to prove anything. My car runs fine it outruns cars on the street light to light which is what I need for my type of driving style. So, I don't care what Cletus or his supporters think or do. BTW AARP is not American Association of Retired People. No, it means Association of Archie's Rabid Promoters. People who can find no fault in anything Cletus does or states. Irrespective of how disrespectful, crude or rude he states it.

Well i was going to stay out of this thread till now. I have meet Archie and have purchased one of his kits. That makes me an Archie supporter, and i'm proud/glad that i found him. So since i promote Archie i'm a part of this AARP thing your mastermind developed. Well i'm calling you out now. Were's the pics of your fast a$$ 4.9? Put up or shut up punk ! By the way here are some pics of my stuff so you don't try to say i'm full of sh$t .

There you go my swap isn't done yet but everyone here now knows i got the stuff and am not full of it. Choke on it MASTERMIND

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