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Help me install a 4.9 by Fieroking
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Report this Post05-19-2003 03:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FierokingClick Here to visit Fieroking's HomePageSend a Private Message to FierokingDirect Link to This Post
Hey it has been a long time since i last posted meand my dad have got a lot done i will post pics later


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Ok i had some home work to do before i could post some pics


my dad and i got all of the wiring harrness labeled


my dad drilled and tapped a hole for the temp guage

i cut out most of my batt tray.

ok i need some help on this one do i really need the over flow tank for the gas or not?? i dont really know what to do


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Report this Post05-22-2003 03:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FierokingClick Here to visit Fieroking's HomePageSend a Private Message to FierokingDirect Link to This Post
Hey guys i am soo happy we put the motor in last night it looks so good and nothing hits
i will post pics later today


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ever find out what that tensioner fit?

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I'm so excited for you that the motor is in...congrats. Just curious what u mean by overflow gas tank? I've never heard of this with the 4.9....

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no the over flow tank comes on the 88 but i am just going to leave it on.

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Report this Post05-23-2003 06:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FierokingClick Here to visit Fieroking's HomePageSend a Private Message to FierokingDirect Link to This Post
Hi i got the pics enjoy!!


i ended up with about a 1/2 inch of space just enought to be able to chage my belt


i just whish i didnt have to take it out but i still need exaust. i have one question whitch muffler should i get flow master 40 60 80 ?? whitch one sounds the best. and it will be fed by 3 inch pipe

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me and my dad got most of the lines run for the oil and fuel and vacume. But as i am typing this we are going to the muffler shop but i still have 1 question which flowmaster should i get??


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I know nothing about the mufflers myself so i dont really know :/

I do want to say that is an awesome job! looks great. That is one of THE best V8 swaps i have seen. cant wait to see the finished product

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Nice pics, I like to see the pics and a threads that do not have to do with a 4.9 carb

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We used a 80 series flowmaster for a 83-92 Camaro/Firebird. You really need a case lenght of 19 inches or less. Its very tight!!!!!!!!!

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Report this Post05-28-2003 02:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FierokingClick Here to visit Fieroking's HomePageSend a Private Message to FierokingDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the complements me and my dad have been working on this swap for about 5 months now and it is all most finished . And the complements help alot because i have put my life MONEY and sole into this swap. I just cant waite untill Fiero fest and say me and my dad did it all.

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That's looking really good. I can't wait to see it at the Fest.

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Report this Post06-01-2003 05:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FierokingClick Here to visit Fieroking's HomePageSend a Private Message to FierokingDirect Link to This Post

instead of buying boaring black plug wires i got some red ones but i had to make them

me and my dad painted the engine bay i t looks really good.

this is what i did all of my saturday night. i still need to do the sides

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Originally posted by PBJ:

Nice pics, I like to see the pics and a threads that do not have to do with a 4.9 carb

Hmm, not sure but was this pointed towards me? I have a thread going on my 4.9, what does it matter what type of fuel delivery I use? Why are people so negative about a carbed 4.9?

Very nice swap fieroking. You will surly be done before me, I'm still waitig on my flywheel.

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Originally posted by crzyone:

Hmm, not sure but was this pointed towards me? I have a thread going on my 4.9, what does it matter what type of fuel delivery I use? Why are people so negative about a carbed 4.9?


No it was not directed at you personally, it was directed personally to Fieroking (it is his thread)

Sorry to fierokings thead: I am not a carb fan, but maybe I should be, because some of the carb guys say they can pull wheelies, That we can not I am looking foward to seeing that trick.

I had to get help to get our 4.9 EFI working just like every anyone else could. Carb is a choice just like EFI is. I know we don't need a pro and con thead again. When ever I meet someone with an engine swap no matter what I will compliment them on the areas I like and SO I am complimenting Fieroking on HIS work.

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Report this Post06-03-2003 12:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FierokingClick Here to visit Fieroking's HomePageSend a Private Message to FierokingDirect Link to This Post
I'am back with more pics

i got them done a while ago but i for got to post the pic


got both sides done WOW dose it look good

this is what the stuff looked like when i was done but my dad came up this a great idea
put some of the slive tape on it no it looks really good.

now my life is ready to go to the exaust shop on thrsday

that is about it for now because i have to work the rest of this week but i need the money to finish it.

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looking good, cant wait to see the final product
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Why are people so negative about a carbed 4.9?

What I've figured is, with a carb you won't get as good as gas milage. The extra 15 horse power is not worth losing 15mpg. So I think most people see it pointless to put a carb on. Others see it as taking a shortcut because the engine was designed for EFI.

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Report this Post06-03-2003 04:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieromadmanClick Here to visit fieromadman's HomePageSend a Private Message to fieromadmanDirect Link to This Post
looks great, now we need pictures of wheelies!!

Seriously though, your gonna have one hell of a car!

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Worse gas mileage? My 4.9 has a 350cfm carb. The intake holes on a 4.9 are 500cfm. It would be almost impossible to get worse gas mileage with my small carb. Intake ports were also designed to flow just air, I will be sending a air/fuel mixture down the same hole. I'd expect to get pretty close gas mileage to a PFI.

2 advantages of PFI
Exact measurments of air/fuel
Pass emissions (if we had em)

Advantages of a carb
On the spot tuning, all you need is a screwdriver.
Simplicity of install
much cleaner install.

Everyone will have different opinions. I choose carb because I don't need it to start well when its cold outside. Fuel economy was the least of my concerns when I chose to put a V-8 into my fiero. Not trying to flame you Elenor, I'm just thinking out loud here. Hard to be subtle at 5 in the morning on a night shift

Fieroking, your install is beautiful. Its probibly the shiniest 4.9 I've ever seen. Have you got a quote for how much they are going to charge you for custom exhaust? What are you going to use? I was thinking 2 1/2 inch from manifolds to a 3" main into a 1 in 2 out muffler to the tips. I would love to have true dual exhaust but I don't think there is enough room without removing the bottom of the trunk.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by crzyone:

Worse gas mileage? My 4.9 has a 350cfm carb. The intake holes on a 4.9 are 500cfm. It would be almost impossible to get worse gas mileage with my small carb. Intake ports were also designed to flow just air, I will be sending a air/fuel mixture down the same hole. I'd expect to get pretty close gas mileage to a PFI.


And not intending to flame you either cry, but just curious, since you are restricting the intake holes alittle bit by putting a smaller carb on, do you expect to lose some horse power?

The reason I believe that carb will lose mpg is because of talks I've had with Steaven Rossi, he says he gets around 11mpg or somewhere around there, but he must have a much larger carb on his.

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i am so HAPPY i got my exaust finished here are some pics

and it only costed little under 300.00 all really is left is finish the wiring and drop the tank and run power lines.

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Nice Exhaust dude! I like the black look. Is it rueted threw the stock locations?
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very nice cant wait til its finished looks like some very nice work
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Hey guys i have gotten alot done here u go


here is a nother pic of the exaust with the muffler on it


what is hidding behind that scoop ??


my oil cooler


got my power cable ran

my engine bay is all done

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brand new struts with 1 coil cut off of each spring

tommrow is the big night to put in the motor for the last time i hope


my Interior is a huge mess because i am still trying to put power windows in.

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Awesome progress man, you should have it on the road in no time.
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I just cant wait till tonight i am so excited probly the big thing now is i hope me and my dad got all the wiring squared away but we have had enought time to think about it.

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looking very good.

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Although I view carbureted engines as old technology and do not wish to start a debate on this thread, I will simply compliment you on a very nice install. I'm sure that you will enjoy the ride. One comment though- have you checked the fit of that Flowmaster Muffler?. It looks like it is going to be a pretty tight fit.

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wow that looks nice! Make me wish i kept my 4.5 Good luck, should be fun!!
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Well that muffler isnt a flow master it si a xlerator it is a high flow muffler. Tonight is a big car show in coeur D' Alene i wish i could drive my car in it but next month is the river city rod run i will have it running for that.


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Me and my dad got the motor in. Were are having a bit of trouble with the struts with cut springs. but i am so happy. i will post pics later i am going to go to sleeZZZzzzzZZZZzzzzZZZZzzzz.

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Sweet man! I'm happy for ya! Did you fire her up or just gettin it all set up right now?
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good luck getting it fired up!! post pics tomorrow!!
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good luck getting it fired up!! post pics tomorrow!!

This IS now tomorrow right..??

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I ahve gotten alot done my car now sits on it wheels and it is going to stay that way for a while mainly to help the coils set i am so happy i just need to finish a few things passkey tach mon and get my mem cal pack back from rock crawl

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i will post pics tommrow

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Here are the pics


my dad finished up the intake it looks stock

all lines are done

batt mounting all most done

this scoop has the ram air because my dad glassed the tube in the the scoop

and on the inside it has metal grils it looks really good

i am going to have it running by the middle to end of this week i am sOOOOOOOOO happy

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Look'n like you are almost done. Good job.

The stock V6 air filter box it too restrictive for the 4.9. You will have to drill many 1/2 inch holes in the lid around the center hole.

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